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I was wondering which denominations recite the Creed in their church. By this I am really refering to the Apostle’s Creed, moreso than the Nicene. I think it’s pretty safe to say that all the Baptist branches don’t, right? I thought the Methodists did as well as the Episcopal/Anglicans? Are there any others? Thanks!
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The Apostle’s Creed:**
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
and he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
 
RCCDefender said:
I was wondering which denominations recite the Creed in their church. By this I am really refering to the Apostle’s Creed, moreso than the Nicene. I think it’s pretty safe to say that all the Baptist branches don’t, right? I thought the Methodists did as well as the Episcopal/Anglicans? Are there any others? Thanks!

The Apostle’s Creed:
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.
I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
he descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
and he will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
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There’s a difference between believing and reciting. All Trinitarian Protestants pretty much would say that they believe the content of the Apostles’ and Nicene Creeds (though they would obviously interpret the clauses on the Church and baptism differently from Catholics). Baptists, etc., don’t usually recite Creeds, but they don’t pray the Lord’s Prayer liturgically either.

The Methodists use the Apostles’ Creed but are not required to do so–the more high church congregations use it every week, while others use it from time to time. Some use it very rarely, but most try to do so at least occasionally. They have a number of “affirmations of faith” that they can pick from, though–the Apostles’ Creed is the most commonly used and traditional one, but they also have the Nicene Creed and a bunch of modern statements of faith. Also, Methodists usually omit the phrase “He descended into Hell.”

I believe that Lutherans use the Apostles’ Creed more often than the Methodists, while Presbyterians are much the same as the Methodists (more suspicious of liturgy on the one hand, but more formal and old-fashioned on the other). But I’m less familiar with these traditions.

Episcopalians use the Nicene Creed at the Eucharist (on Sundays and feast days) and the Apostles’ Creed in the Daily Office (which is supposed to be a congregational celebration for us, though with more frequent celebration of the Eucharist this has become rarer).

Two extremely liberal and liturgically innovative parishes (St. Gregory of Nyssa in San Francisco, and the Church of the Redeemer in Morristown, NJ) do not use the Creed. I believe the Church of the Redeemer says something like “Jesus is Lord and we are God’s people.” St. Gregory’s argues (you can visit their website and check) that the statement of the Church’s faith is in the Eucharistic Prayer. This is actually a common claim within the liturgical movement (and is historically true, I think), but most don’t think that means we should stop reciting the Creed.

Edwin
 
Our last three years were under a brand of Baptist minister on a military base. He wasn’t Calvinist as he didn’t see that supported in Scripture. Anyway, he had us recite the Nicene Creed every Sunday and take communion as well. He introduced us to the ECF and the Didache.

I would say that this was the beginning of our conversion.

Our pastor said that ALL Christians should be able to say and believe the Nicene Creed.

To be baptized, you had to be able to affirm and explain the Creed’s statements.

There was an asterik by catholic denoting “universal” and by baptism denoting “symbolic washing” and I think “apostolic” was removed as well.

But God used him and this recitation over a period of three years.

So some Baptists do. 🙂 (He was ministering to a congregation that was more cross-denominational but this particular minister would have done/felt this way no matter what.)
 
The United Church of Canada keeps the Apostles’ Creed and the Nicene Creed as “historic creeds” but when actually in Church, they recite the “New Creed” - I won’t derail the thread with further details on that - the UCC web site can be googled.
 
Hi,

My non-denom church believes this but we do not recite it. I do remember learning it the Episcopal church. The baptist church I went to believed it as well but again didnt not recite it.

I dont believe repetitious prayers are necessary. Does the CC believe or teach that they are necessary and if so for what purpose?😃
 
The congregation in which I serve uses the Nicene Creed on most Sundays. The only exceptions would be on a Sunday when Holy Communion is not celebrated (not many of those lately) or when a baptism takes place during worship (the Apostles’ Creed is part of the baptismal rite).

Peace,
Gary
 
ALLFORHIM said:
Does the CC believe or teach that they are necessary and if so for what purpose?😃
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Repetitious prayers are not necessary but recommended for structured prayer. I personally love saying little prayers at random moments of the day when time doesn’t permit organized prayer. 😃
 
ALLFORHIM said:
Hi,

My non-denom church believes this but we do not recite it. I do remember learning it the Episcopal church. The baptist church I went to believed it as well but again didnt not recite it.

I dont believe repetitious prayers are necessary. Does the CC believe or teach that they are necessary and if so for what purpose?😃
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The Creed does not mention repititious prayer in it and the Creed itself is not a prayer. It is a brief summary of what we believe and we reaffirm our belief in these things in every mass.

Thank you for all the responses so far. I do have someplace I am going with this, but will reveal that later. I’d like to try to get more responses from non-Catholic Christians first.
Thanks.
 
I believe someone said it earlier, but Lutherans recite the Apostles Creed usually, and recite the Nicene Creed during certain seasons in the church year.

Methodists generally recite the Apostles Creed as well, although I don’t know that this is always the case. I do not know of Methodists reciting the Nicene Creed, but I may be wrong.

I’m interested to see where you’re going with this…
 
mrs_abbott said:
So do they say the part about believing in the Holy Catholic Church or do they change it to fit them?
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Your question seems poised more for an argument than really interested in my answer…

Yes, including the holy catholic church.
 
rico said:
Your question seems poised more for an argument than really interested in my answer…

Yes, including the holy catholic church.
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I just find it hard to believe that another denomination would say the Apostles’ Creed and not omit the part about believing in the “Holy Catholic Church”, if they truly believed their church was the true church. Any Lutherans or any other denomination that’s not Catholic and recites this want to comment on that???
 
mrs_abbott said:
I just find it hard to believe that another denomination would say the Apostles’ Creed and not omit the part about believing in the “Holy Catholic Church”, if they truly believed their church was the true church. Any Lutherans or any other denomination that’s not Catholic and recites this want to comment on that???
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Catholic \Cath"o*lic\ (k[a^]th"-o]**k), a. [L. catholicus,
Gr. kaqolikos, universal, general; kata down, wholly +
"o`los whole, probably akin to E. solid: cf. F. catholique.]
  1. Universal or general; as, the catholic faith.
As a United Methodist who embraces the Church Catholic, why would I leave such a thing out?

O+*
 
mrs_abbott said:
I just find it hard to believe that another denomination would say the Apostles’ Creed and not omit the part about believing in the “Holy Catholic Church”, if they truly believed their church was the true church. Any Lutherans or any other denomination that’s not Catholic and recites this want to comment on that???
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Coming from a Methodist and Episcopal background, and slowly learning the Lutheran perspective on things, I think I am safe in saying that all three of these Churches consider themselves to be part of the one Holy and Catholic Church. As noted, the understanding is that of a universal church as opposed to the Catholic Church which is under the jurisdiction of the Pope. In may personal experience at least, most of the folks I worshipped with would include the Catholic Church among the universal church as well, although I know that this belief is not reciprocated by the Catholic Church.
 
I know some of the more traditional churches say the Apostle’s Creed.

Interesting conversation with a Methodist a while back:

Cath. “When did the Catholic Church stop being the Catholic Church in the Apostle’s Creed?”

Meth. “The Catholic Church meant Universal Church, it never meant the Church of Rome.”

Cath. * “The Catholic Church, which you refer to as the ‘Church of Rome’ was the only Church at that time - the two were one in the same.”*

Meth. * “No it wasn’t.”*

Cath. * “…”*
ALLFORHIM said:
I dont believe repetitious prayers are necessary.
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How many times in your life have you prayed the Our Father?
 
ALLFORHIM said:
I dont believe repetitious prayers are necessary. Does the CC believe or teach that they are necessary and if so for what purpose?😃
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Do you believe praying the Our Father daily is necessary? If not why? Do you consider praying the Our Father daily to be a repititious prayer? If not why would reciting the Credo be considered a “repititious prayer” (like the babbling pagans right?)?
 
I grew up a lutheran and we said the Apostle’s Creed every Sunday except for “special” occasions - can’t remember what those were…anyway, when we did say the Nicene Creed, everyone did a scramble for their song book where it was printed, because no one knew it by heart.
We ALWAYS substituted Holy Christian Church for what I now know to be Holy Catholic Church.

By the way, when I say the Nicene Creed at Mass, I really do pray it, not recite it. It’s so beautiful and the words bring such beautiful images to my mind as I gaze upon Christ Crucified.
 
Saint_Michael said:
Do you believe praying the Our Father daily is necessary? If not why? Do you consider praying the Our Father daily to be a repititious prayer? If not why would reciting the Credo be considered a “repititious prayer” (like the babbling pagans right?)?
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Hi,
No I do not say the Our Father daily. I just talk to God with whatever is on my mind at the time.😃 All day long. I call them popcorn prayers.😃 I am not against saying those prayers, dont get me wrong. It just isnt really personal to me. I want to have a more intimate relationship with God and to me saying the same prayer is just letting God know I believe but it isnt getting to the heart of things in my life. The other thing,at least for me, I feel if I said the same thing day after day, it would start to lose its meaning for me and just become a habit that I lose sight of the meaning. That is me, I certainly cant speak for anyone else.👍
 
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