which Protestant denominations do actually say the rosary?

[Traveller1534]

ok I can agree with that, but I can assure you that the Rosary is a part of many parishes around me. I have only heard a couple of negative remarks about it in my parish and most of those folks really have to be dismissed as not knowing much about their faith. Those are the same ones that just show up on Sunday mornings and figure that it is enough.

 

[dessert]

I Did Not Think The Angelicans Or Lutherns Actually Think Of Themselves As Protestants Denomination Or Anti Catholic Or Just Non-c ?

What Would You Do If They United And Recognized The Pope, Or Just Became In Unity With The Roman Catholic, Traveler 1534?

Just Out Of Couriousity, How Would You React To This? I’m Not Trying To Make An Arguement. Dessert

 

[Traveller1534]

Truthfully it would be wonderful if we all could be in communion with one another. Correct me if I am wrong here but I believe that it is more of a reality today than ever before.

 

[ASimpleSinner]

Truthfully it would be wonderful if we all could be in communion with one another. Correct me if I am wrong here but I believe that it is more of a reality today than ever before.

We are friendly than ever before. But as the Anglican Communion and the Porvoo Lutheran Churches & Utrecht Churches (both of which TAC is in communion with) have started to ordain women, ordain non-celibate homosexuals, bless same sex unions. No, we are not closer.

Friendlier yes, closer? Perhaps the farthest we have been ever.

 

[dessert]

That is quite strange that you have never heard of this. We have a designated evening at different times of the year when we pray the rosary and educate those who wish to learn it.

THIS IS FASCINATING AS I HAVE NOT ASK MANY OTHERS BUT I WILL, AND THE ORTHODOX ALSO HAVE A FORM OF THE ROSARY, YOU CAN FIND IT ON WIKI.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR ROSARIES BLESSED?

YOU KNOW WE HAVE A ROSARY THREAD OR MANY? THAT YOU CAN GET ON ; ROSARY FOR THE CAF IN THE WATERCOOLER. DESSERT

 

[dessert]

Truthfully it would be wonderful if we all could be in communion with one another. Correct me if I am wrong here but I believe that it is more of a reality today than ever before.

SIMPLE SINNER IS RIGHT WE ARE NOT IN FULL COMMUNION AND MAY NOT EVER BE, I THINK THEY ARE WORKING ON A PARTIAL COMMUNION, BUT NOT DONE DEAL.

YOU ALREADY STATED SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES, HOPE YOU WILL RETURN SOMEDAY DESSERT

 

[lak611]

I do not understand why people would be quibbling over how many Anglicans, Lutherans or Methodists say the rosary. If they do, God bless them. I know quite a few Catholics who do not say it. Rather than arguing over numbers, we should just try to encourage more people, both Catholic and Protestant to say it.

 

[Traveller1534]

Thank you so much for that. I would love to see the day when we all could pray it together.

 

[lak611]

More accurately, Wesley carried and used a prayer rope, which included the psalter and prayers/collects and was possibly a precursor to the Anglican rosary. His Eastern leanings on prayer and spirituality have been noted of late by several scholars.

Here’s a link to an article about Methodists and the rosary. Some Methodists are actually saying the same rosary as Catholics. unicorne.org/ORTHODOXY/articles/alex_roman/methodists.htm

 

[Traveller1534]

We talked about being in communion with one another. I think that many of our beliefs are the same, (the eucharist, Mary, the communion of saints, the sacrements) etc. but it seems as if everything is a question of validity by the Catholic church and this is really ashamed and it is keeping our churches apart. I believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ but some Catholics would tell me that the eucharist doesn’t exist in my church. This is not how communion is going to be possible.

 

[dessert]

It was actually called ECUSA and it is now called TEC for simply the Episcopal church. You also mentioned underappreciated notion of the rosary when I was Catholic. The truth really is that I was never educated on my faith very well at all when I was Catholic, in fact I find that most Catholics today know very little or are even misdirected on their faith. I have to admit that the same thing applies to Anglicans that I go to church with every Sunday. I just stepped up to the plate when I turned Anglican and sought out much education on the church.

What still bothers you about the Catholic faith, not trying to badger you? Dessert

 

[Traveller1534]

The way in which the child sexual abuse scandal was handled or should I say not handled and the more I learned about the Catholic faith, the more I came to realize that it is much more different from the early church than I ever thought before. And I couldn’t buy into matter of Catholic dogma such as the immaculate conception and the assumption because they not only couldn’t be proven in scripture but they also rivaled scripture in many ways.

 

[ASimpleSinner]

We talked about being in communion with one another. I think that many of our beliefs are the same, (the eucharist, Mary, the communion of saints, the sacrements) etc. but it seems as if everything is a question of validity by the Catholic church and this is really ashamed and it is keeping our churches apart. I believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ but some Catholics would tell me that the eucharist doesn’t exist in my church. This is not how communion is going to be possible.

No it is not. But lets not put the cart before the horse.

You can read about Anglo-Catholics here:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo_Catholic

They are a party in the Anglican communion that seeks greater identity with the more Catholic elements of their theology over the Protestant influences. Generally, they are a minority party in TAC with foundations most recently rooted in The Oxford movement some 170 years ago.

The problem many Catholics have with the AC claims is one of historical continuity as a “catholic” body. Whereas the East or Old Catholic bodies had a continuity in their catholicity (ie. the recognition of 7 sacraments could generally be seen as continuously intact) the same may not be said of the Anglican Communion.

To many Catholics, this recovery of a more catholic, non-protestant identity may be seen as “too little, too late”. If today a party in the Methodist Church began to use the Roman Missal or the Eastern Divine Liturgy of St. John Chysostom, we would see such external adaptations as being positive, to be sure, but not enough to begin to view that body as a “catholic” body.

Many ACs go through considerable effort and energy to demonstrate that they are possesed of an unbroken lineage of catholicity that was never “Protestant/Reformed”. I am, to date, unconvinced by these claims.

I feel that while they have done an excellent job in creating and promoting a very catholic vision of their faith, it remains problematic to Catholics and Orthodox. Generally we are not comfortable to view them as merely “Catholics in schism” from the rest of the Catholic world in the same way that Eastern Orthodox, Church of the East, Oriental Orthodox, Old Catholics or even Brazillian National Catholics are.

We aren’t NOT recognizing Anglican Orders & thereby the Eucharist because we are big mean bullies. We believe that which is necessary to confect the eucharist - priesthood - was lost during the time when the C of E denied Holy Orders as a sacrament. They ceased to have bishops, so they ceased to have priests… so they ceased to have the Eucharist.

You should check out Fr. Al Kimmels blog - Pontifications. He is a Catholic priest (married no less) who converted from Anglicanism. These issues are covered there a good deal.

 

[dessert]

We talked about being in communion with one another. I think that many of our beliefs are the same, (the eucharist, Mary, the communion of saints, the sacrements) etc. but it seems as if everything is a question of validity by the Catholic church and this is really ashamed and it is keeping our churches apart. I believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ but some Catholics would tell me that the eucharist doesn’t exist in my church. This is not how communion is going to be possible.

Sorry my post came after and you must have anticipated my question

You have insight to this because of having been a Catholic.
Our Holy Communion, we do believe that it is the prescence it is,of the body and blood of Jesus Christ, and this is why we pray the rosary in the adoration of the Eucharist in the chapel. And we genuflect on both knees in reverence of the fact, because we believe we are in the prescence of Our Lord.

Mary? You are praying the rosary? Aaaah is this logical? I’m not trying to put you on the spot as this whole discussion is interesting but as you said you do not say Hail Mary. dessert

 

[GKC]

No it is not. But lets not put the cart before the horse.

We aren’t NOT recognizing Anglican Orders & thereby the Eucharist because we are big mean bullies. We believe that which is necessary to confect the eucharist - priesthood - was lost during the time when the C of E denied Holy Orders as a sacrament. They ceased to have bishops, so they ceased to have priests… so they ceased to have the Eucharist.

You should check out Fr. Al Kimmels blog - Pontifications. He is a Catholic priest (married no less) who converted from Anglicanism. These issues are covered there a good deal.

And another good source of scholarly information is to read Francis Clark’s ANGLICAN ORDERS AND DEFECT OF INTENTION, for an explication of the RC position. Or, for a counter arguement, for the possible validity of Anglican orders, see Fr. J. J. Hughes two books, ABSOLUTELY NULL AND UTTERLY VOID and STEWARDS OF THE LORD, which address the theological, but also the historical, personal and quasi-political factors operating in this sad affair. Amongst a large selection of literature on the subject, I have found these two authors the best. Fr. Hughes, by the way, is a RC priest and former Anglican priest, and the first person known to have been ordained* sub conditione *when he left Canterbury for Rome. He’s particularly good on the history of what actually happened, after Halifax and Portal met.

GKC

Anglicanus Catholicus

 

[GKC]

We are friendly than ever before. But as the Anglican Communion and the Porvoo Lutheran Churches & Utrecht Churches (both of which TAC is in communion with) have started to ordain women, ordain non-celibate homosexuals, bless same sex unions. No, we are not closer.

Friendlier yes, closer? Perhaps the farthest we have been ever.

SimpleSinner,

I’ve noticed you use the acronym TAC before. Are you meaning the Episcopal Chuch, the new name for the Episcopal Church , USA (ECUSA)? If so, I think they use TEC. TAC, in some Anglican circles, is the Traditional Anglican Communion, one of the largest of the Continuing Anglican movement’s jurisdictions, and one with a history of exploring (sort of) corporate reunion with Rome. Kinda.

GKC

Added: I think I see the answer, though the post I quoted was a little unclear. TAC was intended to be the worldwide Anglican Communion.

 

[GKC]

Anyone can say a prayer in the privacy of their home. Any where but it ‘the Rosary’ with the Our Father Oh my queen Oh my Jesus and St. Michael prayer and I believe in front of the Eucharist in full adoration, among other Catholic members outloud and after Mass in union with one another, this is what really is the Rosary.

You can say anyprayer in your car or before bed or at work.

I have not heard of a denomination having a prayer night at their church dedicated to praying the rosary but you should try it as it has helped our churches and enriches our mass.

Dessert

Dessert,

Such is quite common amongst the more Anglo-Catholic Anglicans. There’s a parish in my hometown with a regularly schedulde Rosary, listed in the bulletins, and on the notice boards outside the church.

GKC

 

[dessert]

We talked about being in communion with one another. I think that many of our beliefs are the same, (the eucharist, Mary, the communion of saints, the sacrements) etc. but it seems as if everything is a question of validity by the Catholic church and this is really ashamed and it is keeping our churches apart. I believe that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Christ but some Catholics would tell me that the eucharist doesn’t exist in my church. This is not how communion is going to be possible.

The Catholic Church validates(confirms, gives evidence for, approves,corraborates, verifies) because she does test the spirits.

When you went to get your drivers liscence you had to go through testing studies reading, trials, on road practice and a time allotment from test to test. And eventually if you were also the right age you went through the power of the state you wanted to be qualified to get a liscence, you passed. If you failed anywhere along the line they would have said to you you are not ready yet go practice some more. This is a valid D.L.

When you were born you got a birth certificate with a valid docs signature say you are who you are. That doc or midwife or/and nurse have valid MD’s saying they are who they are. They signed there name making it a valid birth for you.

If you join an organization such as a Club ; ie YMCA they have documents which you should check out and not feel like you are being too scrutenizing because it is your health and safety you are trusting to the organization and, God would want you to test and check it out, He says so.

So much more so for the spiritual health of all the Body of the Catholic Church does she check out and have the validity of all the members for the health of the entire body.
What may seem like an intrusion but is not and is universal. I hope this helps your understanding a bit. Dessert

 

[Traveller1534]

The Catholic Church validates(confirms, gives evidence for, approves,corraborates, verifies) because she does test the spirits.

Forgive me for saying so, but I am so sick of hearing the Catholic church refered to as “her”.

 

[lak611]

dessert;2104186:

The Catholic Church validates(confirms, gives evidence for, approves,corraborates, verifies) because she does test the spirits.

Forgive me for saying so, but I am so sick of hearing the Catholic church refered to as “her”.

Referring to the Church as “her” is not just a Catholic thing. “The Church’s One Foundation is Jesus Christ her Lord.” That is from a Protestant hymn. The author was Anglican. cyberhymnal.org/bio/s/t/o/stone_sj.htm