Which religions teach eradication of poverty?

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abucs said:
The questions are on what basis are you going to obtain those finances?

What limits in quantity and ideology are you going to place on yourself for obtaining those finances?

How are you going to measure the success of the invested finances?

By what means are you going to resolve the disagreements on whose finances they are and what they should be used for and what is the best way to use those finances?
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Google - Spiritual solution to the economic problem

Regards Tony
 
Servant19 said:
I think Jesus would give the hungry child food first, physical food. THEN the spiritual food comes after that.

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What made you complain about me when there is a hungry child. Please answer that. Then you went into athiesm. Why the disconnect? Wouldn’t the most Godly thing you could have done is immediately feed the child instead of complaining?

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
So it is confirmed the Bahai teach eradication of poverty. Any other religion?

MJ
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Because I was talking about starvation and you replied “God first”…you excluded the provision of a basic human necessity in preference to God. Personally I wouldn’t exclude one in preference to the other.

Your post indicated otherwise.

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MartinJordan said:
Is Google another religion that teaches eradication of poverty? :hmmm:

MJ
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Google can only be as good as the heart using it Martin.

Lots of good references to be found. What a bounty, or perversion. Again free choice with this, the biggest library on the planet.

Regards Tony
 
MartinJordan said:
What the title of the thread asks.

Meanwhile, Christianity doesn’t teach eradication. Because Jesus said the poor we will always have with us. It’s much more nuanced but for now I’ll start with this OP question.

Discuss.

MJ
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Jesus did teach that there would always be poor people in this world. This is an unfortunate reality of living in a fallen world. When God created mankind in Eden there was no poverty or disease/death or hardship. When Adam and Eve sinned - poverty, disease and hardship became a reality. This was not God’s initial plan for humanity.

Sometimes people experience poverty or diseases and hardship as a direct result of a bad or sinful choice. Too often people experience poverty and hardship despite no fault of their own.

Jesus taught and set an example of helping the poor and helping the sick. Those who follow Jesus of course should be compelled to continue to show compassion by helping those who are poor. Will we be able to eradicate poverty here on earth with enough charity or with political change? I don’t know if that is a completely realistic goal.
 
susanlo said:
Will we be able to eradicate poverty here on earth with enough charity or with political change? I don’t know if that is a completely realistic goal.
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That would be the same as saying the Word of God is not a completly realistic goal.

The foundation Law for us all, Do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Why has this not been acheived to date?

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
Google can only be as good as the heart using it Martin.

Lots of good references to be found. What a bounty, or perversion. Again free choice with this, the biggest library on the planet.

Regards Tony
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There are too many voices. We need only one voice. The voice of the Good Shepherd.

Blessed are the poor for they shall inherit the earth.

MJ
 
susanlo said:
Jesus did teach that there would always be poor people in this world. This is an unfortunate reality of living in a fallen world. When God created mankind in Eden there was no poverty or disease/death or hardship. When Adam and Eve sinned - poverty, disease and hardship became a reality. This was not God’s initial plan for humanity.

Sometimes people experience poverty or diseases and hardship as a direct result of a bad or sinful choice. Too often people experience poverty and hardship despite no fault of their own.

**Jesus taught and set an example of helping the poor and helping the sick. Those who follow Jesus of course should be compelled to continue to show compassion by helping those who are poor. **Will we be able to eradicate poverty here on earth with enough charity or with political change? I don’t know if that is a completely realistic goal.
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Yes I bolded for this what Jesus came for. Eradication of poverty is not the answer. It surely more nuanced like Jesus’ mission and given to the Church to do God’s Will.

MJ
 
susanlo said:
Jesus did teach that there would always be poor people in this world. This is an unfortunate reality of living in a fallen world. When God created mankind in Eden there was no poverty or disease/death or hardship. When Adam and Eve sinned - poverty, disease and hardship became a reality. This was not God’s initial plan for humanity.

Sometimes people experience poverty or diseases and hardship as a direct result of a bad or sinful choice. Too often people experience poverty and hardship despite no fault of their own.

**Jesus taught and set an example of helping the poor and helping the sick. Those who follow Jesus of course should be compelled to continue to show compassion by helping those who are poor. **Will we be able to eradicate poverty here on earth with enough charity or with political change? I don’t know if that is a completely realistic goal.
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Yes I bolded for this what Jesus came for. Eradication of poverty is not the answer. It surely more nuanced like Jesus’ mission.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
Yes I bolded for this what Jesus came for. Eradication of poverty is not the answer. It surely more nuanced like Jesus’ mission and given to the Church to do God’s Will.MJ
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The result of following the Word of God is that there should be no Poverty. Thus if there is no poverty in the world it would mean we have come some way in actually putting into practice what is Preached.

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
The result of following the Word of God is that there should be no Poverty. Thus if there is no poverty in the world it would mean we have come some way in actually putting into practice what is Preached.

Regards Tony
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Who preaches this?

Peace be with you.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
Who preaches this?

Peace be with you.

MJ
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That you are compelled to ask such a a question is quite sad Martin.

Pope Francis said he wants a world without poverty: “We must continue to struggle for this.” But, he said, “I am a believer and I know that sin is always within us. And there is always human greed, the lack of solidarity, selfishness, which create poverty. For this reason, it seems to me a little difficult to imagine a world without poverty. . . . But we must always struggle, always, always.”(from Vatican Radio)

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God bless and regards Tony.
 
TonyBS said:
That you are compelled to ask such a a question is quite sad Martin.

Pope Francis said he wants a world without poverty: “We must continue to struggle for this.” But, he said, “I am a believer and I know that sin is always within us. And there is always human greed, the lack of solidarity, selfishness, which create poverty. For this reason, it seems to me a little difficult to imagine a world without poverty. . . . But we must always struggle, always, always.”(from Vatican Radio)

news.va/en/news/pope-francis-i-want-a-world-without-poverty

news.va/en

God bless and regards Tony.
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‘t’s: trabajo (work), techo (house), and tierra (land). The Church preaches that every person has a right to these three t’s.”

Notice above.

Without above it is destitution. But the poor will always be there when you compare with the rich.

Notice Jesus came as poor as well . He did not come into the world as hopeless like those who are born into extreme poverty. But he came to give hope. See the Beatitudes.

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
‘t’s: trabajo (work), techo (house), and tierra (land). The Church preaches that every person has a right to these three t’s.”

Notice above.

Without above it is destitution. But the poor will always be there when you compare with the rich.

Notice Jesus came as poor as well . He did not come into the world as hopeless like those who are born into extreme poverty. But he came to give hope. See the Beatitudes.

MJ
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Martin, if you give everyone work, house and land then you have the Baha’i teaching of the elimination of the extremes of wealth and poverty.

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As others have written already, Christ’s message is quite nuanced - “the poor will always be with you,” along with exhortations to love the least among us…we’re all aware of this already.

I don’t think however this means we should simply accept the fact that some people will always be poorer than others as an excuse (particularly a political excuse) to do the least we can to ameliorate their condition, whether that is by private charity or by (careful) action of the state. Some people are always going to be poorer than others, because that is just the nature of our fallen human condition that things are not as equitable as they were in Eden, or will be in Heaven. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t help especially those at the very bottom. (Of course, we will always disagree about the best means to help, but that’s politics, not religion).

We are not directly called as Christians explicitly to eradicate poverty but we are called to address it as a problem - so if by community (local, national, or global) action we can eliminate all absolute poverty (those unable to afford or attain the barest essentials to a safe and healthy life), then that is something to be celebrated. I don’t know meanwhile of any religion which would not celebrate its adherents at least trying to do that.
 
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