Which religions teach eradication of poverty?

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So Baha’i do not teach Eradication of Proverty. Is this correct?

MJ
The Baha’i Faith talks about voluntary poverty of the things of this world, through voluntary giving of ones acquired possessions for the gradual equalisation of resource availability to all.

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So Baha’i do not teach Eradication of Proverty. Is this correct?

MJ
Always after a Yes or No answer 😉

The writings of Baha’u’llah show us how to acheive the eradication of the Extremes of Wealth and Poverty as we move towards the unity of man and the Lesser Peace, why? As we rejected the Most Great Peace.

Now as we acheive the destined spiritual unity, the balance of poverty against wealth will be closer than if we do not acheive a spiritual unity.

God Bless and Regards Tony
 
Always after a Yes or No answer 😉

The writings of Baha’u’llah show us how to acheive the eradication of the Extremes of Wealth and Poverty as we move towards the unity of man and the Lesser Peace, why? As we rejected the Most Great Peace.

Now as we acheive the destined spiritual unity, the balance of poverty against wealth will be closer than if we do not acheive a spiritual unity.

God Bless and Regards Tony
Yes or No Tony. Come now.

A more nuanced clarification is here:

Our world demands of all government leaders a will which is effective, practical and constant, concrete steps and immediate measures for preserving and improving the natural environment,” he said.

Doing this will help put an end to various forms social and economic exclusion, along with their “baneful consequences” such as human and organ trafficking, the drug and weapons trade, terrorism and organized crime.

“Such is the magnitude of these situations and their toll in innocent lives, that we must avoid every temptation to fall into a declarationist nominalism which would assuage our consciences.”

Francis cautioned against the risk of both being content with the drafting of a list of good proposals and goals, as well as thinking that a single “theoretical and aprioristic solution” will answer all challenges.

He said that human development and dignity can’t be imposed, but must naturally be built up by each individual and family, leading to the development of other areas of life such as communities, towns, cities, schools and businesses.

Education, particularly for girls, which is excluded in some countries, is also a fundamental right which must be upheld, the Pope said. He drew special attention to the right of the family to education their own children, as well as the right of churches and social groups to support and help families.

Government leaders, he said, “must do everything possible to ensure that all can have the minimum spiritual and material means needed to live in dignity and to create and support a family, which is the primary cell of any social development.”

Echoing his speech to popular movements while in Bolivia July 9, Francis said that this minimum has three names: “lodging, labour and land,” and one spiritual name: “spiritual freedom, which includes religious freedom, the right to education and other civil rights.”

The best indication the implementation of the new development agenda will be effective, he said, will be if every person has access to the basic and fundamental material and spiritual goods, such as housing, work, food and water, religious and spiritual freedom, and education…- Pope Francis

Note: Religious freedom for example.

catholicnewsagency.com/news/leave-ideology-behind-and-care-for-the-human-person-pope-tells-un-42488/

Peace be with you.

MJ
 
Yes or No Tony. Come now.

Peace be with you. MJ
I note your ability to dramatically change your posts after a time lapse, do you have special editing rights? 🤷 I reduced it to what you originally posted and will address some of the rest.

If you read the links we gave you would find much clarification as the Pope Francis echos the Baha’i Principals and Guidance upon this subject.

A more nuanced clarification is here:
Our world demands of all government leaders a will which is effective, practical and constant, concrete steps and immediate measures for preserving and improving the natural environment,” he said.
“The Great Being, wishing to reveal the prerequisites of the peace and tranquillity of the world and the advancement of its peoples, hath written: The time must come when the imperative necessity for the holding of a vast, an all-embracing assemblage of men will be universally realized. The rulers and kings of the earth must needs attend it, and, participating in its deliberations, must consider such ways and means as will lay the foundations of the world’s Great Peace amongst men”.
Doing this will help put an end to various forms social and economic exclusion, along with their “baneful consequences” such as human and organ trafficking, the drug and weapons trade, terrorism and organized crime.
“In these days the tabernacle of justice hath fallen into the clutches of tyranny and oppression. Beseech ye the One true God—exalted be His glory—not to deprive mankind of the ocean of true understanding, for were men but to take heed they would readily appreciate that whatever hath streamed from and is set down by the Pen of Glory is even as the sun for the whole world and that therein lie the welfare, security and true interests of all men; otherwise the earth will be tormented by a fresh calamity every day and unprecedented commotions will break out. God grant that the people of the world may be graciously aided to preserve the light of His loving counsels within the globe of wisdom. We cherish the hope that everyone may be adorned with the vesture of true wisdom, the basis of the government of the world”.
He said that human development and dignity can’t be imposed, but must naturally be built up by each individual and family, leading to the development of other areas of life such as communities, towns, cities, schools and businesses.
Yes, this is being done with the spiritual empowerment program.
Education, particularly for girls, which is excluded in some countries, is also a fundamental right which must be upheld, the Pope said. He drew special attention to the right of the family to education their own children, as well as the right of churches and social groups to support and help families.
Very Important and A major Principal - Girls have priority of Education - bic.org/statements/empowering-girls#V8XKcEIaJS0t6zdi.97

bic.org/statements/educating-girls-and-women#hRF8MsP0C3PC3jwi.97
Government leaders, he said, “must do everything possible to ensure that all can have the minimum spiritual and material means needed to live in dignity and to create and support a family, which is the primary cell of any social development.”

Echoing his speech to popular movements while in Bolivia July 9, Francis said that this minimum has three names: “lodging, labour and land,” and one spiritual name: “spiritual freedom, which includes religious freedom, the right to education and other civil rights.

The best indication the implementation of the new development agenda will be effective, he said, will be if every person has access to the basic and fundamental material and spiritual goods, such as housing, work, food and water, religious and spiritual freedom, and education…- Pope Francis

Note: Religious freedom for example.
Good to see we are on the same Path with the same Goals Martin. 👍

God Bless and Regards Tony
 
I note your ability to dramatically change your posts after a time lapse, do you have special editing rights? 🤷 I reduced it to what you originally posted and will address some of the rest.
But what are you implying? :hmmm:
If you read the links we gave you would find much clarification as the Pope Francis echos the Baha’i Principals and Guidance upon this subject.
And these are…?
A more nuanced clarification is here:
“The Great Being, wishing to reveal the prerequisites of the peace and tranquillity of the world and the advancement of its peoples, hath written: The time must come when the imperative necessity for the holding of a vast, an all-embracing assemblage of men will be universally realized. The rulers and kings of the earth must needs attend it, and, participating in its deliberations, must consider such ways and means as will lay the foundations of the world’s Great Peace amongst men”.
Can you help me with what this all means to the poor?
“In these days the tabernacle of justice hath fallen into the clutches of tyranny and oppression. Beseech ye the One true God—exalted be His glory—not to deprive mankind of the ocean of true understanding, for were men but to take heed they would readily appreciate that whatever hath streamed from and is set down by the Pen of Glory is even as the sun for the whole world and that therein lie the welfare, security and true interests of all men; otherwise the earth will be tormented by a fresh calamity every day and unprecedented commotions will break out. God grant that the people of the world may be graciously aided to preserve the light of His loving counsels within the globe of wisdom. We cherish the hope that everyone may be adorned with the vesture of true wisdom, the basis of the government of the world”.
Yes, this is being done with the spiritual empowerment program.
Very Important and A major Principal - Girls have priority of Education - bic.org/statements/empowering-girls#V8XKcEIaJS0t6zdi.97
bic.org/statements/educating-girls-and-women#hRF8MsP0C3PC3jwi.97

Good to see we are on the same Path with the same Goals Martin. 👍

God Bless and Regards Tony

Actually we are not. Educating is not the same as having morals.

MJ
 
But what are you implying? :hmmm:

And these are…?

A more nuanced clarification is here:

Can you help me with what this all means to the poor?

Actually we are not. Educating is not the same as having morals.

MJ
How do you learn what morals to have Martin?

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Actually we are not. Educating is not the same as having morals. MJ
Are you saying that education of the child and Adolescence, Youth and Adults to obtain the Spiritual and Moral Values is not something the Church would do! 🤷

Tell me how you gain the valued Moral and Spiritual Values without education.

Would you not consider it a priority to educate the Children in Moral and Spiritual Values?

Regards Tony.
 
Are you saying that education of the child and Adolescence, Youth and Adults to obtain the Spiritual and Moral Values is not something the Church would do! 🤷

Tell me how you gain the valued Moral and Spiritual Values without education.

Would you not consider it a priority to educate the Children in Moral and Spiritual Values?

Regards Tony.
First show that Pope Francis agrees with the Bahai on Education. Notice how also the link you gave made religion as undermining the efforts of the Bahai view.

Then I will give a much more nuanced clarification on the morality and spiritual aspects.

MJ
 
Jesus 🙂

Now, my question again. Do the Bahai teach Eradication of Poverty. Yes or no?

MJ
Learn to say the word “Jesus” and you instantly have morals???

Are you not teaching the LIFE of Jesus as an EXAMPLE of what morals are?

If it’s not an education, what is it?

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Learn to say the word “Jesus” and you instantly have morals???

Are you not teaching the LIFE of Jesus as an EXAMPLE of what morals are?

If it’s not an education, what is it?

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Yes or No Servant. Then we will discuss education.

A little preview for those who want to listen:.

“The biggest threat to growing up well comes from thinking that no one cares about us, from feeling that we are all alone,” he said. “The Lord, on the other hand, is always with you and he is happy to be with you.” - Pope Francis

Peace with you.

MJ
 
Yes or No Servant. Then we will discuss education.

A little preview for those who want to listen:.

“The biggest threat to growing up well comes from thinking that no one cares about us, from feeling that we are all alone,” he said. “The Lord, on the other hand, is always with you and he is happy to be with you.” - Pope Francis

Peace with you.

MJ
Martin, this thread is going nowhere with your constant re-asking of questions we have answered. We have said no, we want to eradicate EXTREMES of wealth and poverty, not ALL wealth and poverty.

I’m starting to question if your grasp of the English language is a barrier to our dialogue?

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Martin, this thread is going nowhere with your constant re-asking of questions we have answered. We have said no, we want to eradicate EXTREMES of wealth and poverty, not ALL wealth and poverty.

I’m starting to question if your grasp of the English language is a barrier to our dialogue?

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Don’t get angry. I asked Tony and he didn’t answer No.

The OP is not about Eradication of Wealth. Let it go.

I also said Pope Francis does not agree with the Bahai about the Eradication of Poverty, but Tony changes the point to Education so I haven’t got an clear answer about that either.

So which is it?

Meanwhile:

Eradicating Poverty: Moving Forward as One,” yesterday at a luncheon held at their offices across from the United Nations. About 40 representatives from various nongovernmental organizations and UN agencies gathered for the presentation.

Tahirih Naylor, a Baha’i representative to the United Nations, said the statement was released to coincide with the 46th Commission for Social Development at the United Nations, which runs 6-15 February 2008.

“This year, the commission is focusing on the themes of promoting full employment and decent work for all,” said Ms. Naylor. “These are important aspects of poverty eradication, but we wanted to advocate a more coherent approach, one that looks at the wide range of issues that must be addressed in an integrated way if global poverty is to be eliminated.”

news.bahai.org/story/604

Peace be with you.

MJ
 
Don’t get angry. I asked Tony and he didn’t answer No.

The OP is not about Eradication of Wealth. Let it go.

I also said Pope Francis does not agree with the Bahai about the Eradication of Wealth, but Tony changes the point to Education so I haven’t got an clear answer about that either.

So which is it?

Peace be with you.

MJ
Hogwash Martin

See Posts as Follows 6, 30, 60 & 64;
God bless and regards Tony
Regards Tony
Our first few answers and the posted links answered your question, this one also;

bic.org/statements/initial-considerations-regarding-elimination-extremes-poverty-and-wealth#sl2dhOaMqes6bfbb.97

It is eradication of the extremes. Regards Tony
Always after a Yes or No answer 😉

The writings of Baha’u’llah show us how to acheive the eradication of the Extremes of Wealth and Poverty as we move towards the unity of man and the Lesser Peace, why? As we rejected the Most Great Peace.

Now as we acheive the destined spiritual unity, the balance of poverty against wealth will be closer than if we do not acheive a spiritual unity.

God Bless and Regards Tony
It appears you keep twisting plain answers to suit an agenda of denial.

Regards Tony
 
Hogwash Martin

See Posts as Follows 6, 30, 60 & 64;

It appears you keep twisting plain answers to suit an agenda of denial.

Regards Tony
but we wanted to advocate a more coherent approach, one that looks at the wide range of issues that must be addressed in an integrated way if global poverty is to be eliminated

Peace be with you.
 
but we wanted to advocate a more coherent approach, one that looks at the wide range of issues that must be addressed in an integrated way if global poverty is to be eliminated

Peace be with you.
This has also been the problem of Bible Interpretation.

Put the one extract you found in a talk given, back into Perspective to the Overriding Principal Stated.

Regards Tony
 
This has also been the problem of Bible Interpretation.

Put the one extract you found in a talk given, back into Perspective to the Overriding Principal Stated.

Regards Tony
We’re not talking Bible here Tonyfish.

Peace be with you.

MJ
 
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