Which Term Do You Use When You Speak of The Latin Mass?

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Deacon_Ed_B said:
So you attend only the Latin Mass??? Never the Novus Ordo???
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I wish that were possible; if I lived where the Latin Mass was offered at least weekly, I would never attend the NO. Circumstances being what they are, yes, I attend the Novus Ordo when the Tridentine is unavailable. I follow along in the Old Missal, using the Old Calendar. I was given permission to do this by a priest in visible communion with Rome.

I love Archbishop Lefebvre, but attendance at the NO is where he and I differ.
 
latinmasslover said:
Marsha Adams;3561330:
Liturgical calendar outside of Advent, Christmas, Lent and Easter is referred to as ordinary time.

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That is how it is referred to today
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There’s another change which was mentioned last Sunday at the Mass I attended. The Novus Ordo calendar had it as the FOURTH Sunday of Easter where the Traditional calendar has it as the THIRD Sunday after Easter. I can see where a biritual priest can run into a little confusion here with his missals.

I wonder what was the reasoning behind changing something like that?
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Either Tridentine Mass or Traditional Latin Mass, depending on who I’m speaking to and in what context. 🙂
 
ProVobis said:
latinmasslover;3565387:
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There’s another change which was mentioned last Sunday at the Mass I attended. The Novus Ordo calendar had it as the FOURTH Sunday of Easter where the Traditional calendar has it as the THIRD Sunday after Easter. I can see where a biritual priest can run into a little confusion here with his missals.
I wonder what was the reasoning behind changing something like that?
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At present, the Ordo lists the Sundays of the Easter Season. Easter itself is the 1st Sunday of the Easter season. The premier feast of the entire year. Each Sunday during the Easter season after it, is listed in order, e.g., 2nd Sunday of Easter (one week after Easter), 3rd Sunday…, etc.

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Deacon_Ed_B said:
At present, the Ordo lists the Sundays of the Easter Season. Easter itself is the 1st Sunday of the Easter season. The premier feast of the entire year. Each Sunday during the Easter season after it, is listed in order, e.g., 2nd Sunday of Easter (one week after Easter), 3rd Sunday…, etc.

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Yes, but why the change? Of what pastoral value was it worth? And why exactly were the seasons of Pentecost and the Epiphany relegated to “Ordinary” time? Maybe you know? I certainly don’t know on what theological grounds they used to change that. Still seems “after” is clearer. We don’t celebrate our first birthday when we are born. Our first birthday is “after” we have lived one year.
 
tee_eff_em said:
I use the Mass of 1962 or the Mass of Bl John XXIII.

I really hate the way “extraordinary form” seems to have become the common epithet. Yes, His Holiness used that phrase in Summorum Pontificum, but only in the same breath as one of the terms above*. It also makes it sound as if there will only ever be one extraordinary form, and I am not sure I want to place such a limit on this or future popes. :twocents:

(* And much less frequently. 2 or 3 extraordinary forms vs 7ish for the terms above)
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In light of his emminence, Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos’s recent comments, I believe I shall have to begin speaking of the Gregorian Rite.

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As for myself, I call them all what they are "THE MASS’.
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In any case, I really hope use of the :twocents: stoopid :twocents: epithet, extraordinary form, will fall off…

tee
 
I don’t like “EF” in conversation, it doesn’t sound pretty nor does it contain the word “Mass,” and I’ve been talking about the Form since before the MP; so, online always TLM, very easy to type and everyone knows what it means; I use that in my head too or “The Mass”; in conversation often I simply refer to the church I attend by name, otherwise “the older Missal” or “the Tridentine Mass” or occasionally “the 1962 Missal.”
 
NoPlaceLikeRome said:
I don’t like “EF” in conversation, it doesn’t sound pretty nor does it contain the word “Mass,” and I’ve been talking about the Form since before the MP; so, online always TLM, very easy to type and everyone knows what it means; I use that in my head too or “The Mass”; in conversation often I simply refer to the church I attend by name, otherwise “the older Missal” or “the Tridentine Mass” or occasionally “the 1962 Missal.”
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“EF” is no where near as offensive as “NO.”
 
NoPlaceLikeRome said:
I don’t like “EF” in conversation, it doesn’t sound pretty nor does it contain the word “Mass,” and I’ve been talking about the Form since before the MP; so, online always TLM, very easy to type and everyone knows what it means; I use that in my head too or “The Mass”; in conversation often I simply refer to the church I attend by name, otherwise “the older Missal” or “the Tridentine Mass” or occasionally “the 1962 Missal.”
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Spiller said:
“EF” is no where near as offensive as “NO.”
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I think I have said it before on this or on another thread. If I have not I should have done so. We throw around the terms EF, TLM, NO, etc, and discuss them like we really know what we are talking about. If we would refer to the mass, we would recall what it really is, a reenactment of the sacrifice of Calvary. It is taking place before our very eyes. And we dare criticize how it is done. It is the mass people. A gift of infinite value for you and me. Lets think of it that way.
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I say Latin Mass, but when i post, I use EF. I would use Extraordinary Form more, but not many would know what I mean. I like EF becuase it shows that the Latin Mass and NO arent two different Masses, but two forms of one.
 
Marsha_Adams said:
Obedience given to the Bishop is referred to as obedience to the ordinary. Liturgical calendar outside of Advent, Christmas, Lent and Easter is referred to as ordinary time.

I do not think that you really want to refer to either your bishop or to certain liturgical time as being inferior, indifferent or ugly.
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I dunno,have you seen some Cardinals:D 😛
 
I just chose ‘the Mass’, since (along with the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite mind you) that’s basically what it is: a form of the Sacrifice of the Mass.

Though if the need arises, I usually refer to the Pian Mass as the Extraordinary Form or in some cases, the Traditional Latin Mass (with emphasis on the former). 🙂

I don’t personally like the epithet ‘Mass of All Time’ or ‘Mass of the Ages’ much, as it implies to me that the Mass never changed through the course of 1500 years, and IMHO somehow ignores the other liturgical rites (such as the Divine Liturgies, the Holy Qurbanas for the Eastern and Oriental Churches, and the Ambrosian, Mozarabic, Gallican, Celtic etc. Rites for the West, to name a few) some of which are as old, if not older than, the Liturgy used by the church of Rome, but that’s just how I feel on the title.

Hey…perhaps Liturgy of the Church of Rome would be a better fitting-title?

Or, in order to reflect the influence of the Gallican Rite on the Liturgy of Rome, how about the Gallico-Roman Liturgy, as codified by the Holy Pontiff Pius V in 1570, according to the 1962 Editio Typica of the Missale Romanum? 😃
 
I put Tridentine Mass cause after I say “TLM” or even “Extraordinary Form” people look at me with a blank, puzzled look on their faces (even priests) so it’s only when I call it the “Tridentine Mass” is there recognition.:rolleyes: Tells you how much of a dent the pope’s MP put on this diocese and how many informed or Traditional Catholics there are here.
 
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