Which Verse Says That Jesus Died For Everyone's Sin?

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:confused: On my blog a poster claimed that Jesus did not die for everyone’s sin. There must be a verse that says otherwise.

Also, how could a Christian believe that Jesus didn’t die for eveyone’s sins?

If you could lead me to a verse that will correct this poster, I would be very grateful.
 
Romans 5 seems to paint the picture rather well.
*** 12 *** Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world, and through sin, death, and thus death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned –*** 13 ****** for up to the time of the law, sin was in the world, though sin is not accounted when there is no law.****** 14 ****** But death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who did not sin after the pattern of the trespass of Adam, who is the type of the one who was to come.******
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15 ****** But the gift is not like the transgression. For if by that one person’s transgression the many died, how much more did the grace of God and the gracious gift of the one person Jesus Christ overflow for the many***.*** 16 ****** And the gift is not like the result of the one person’s sinning. For after one sin there was the judgment that brought condemnation; but the gift, after many transgressions, brought acquittal***.***
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17 ****** For if, by the transgression of one person, death came to reign through that one, how much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of justification come to reign in life through the one person Jesus Christ. 18 ****** In conclusion, just as through one transgression condemnation came upon all, so through one righteous act acquittal and life came to all***.*** 19 ****** For just as through the disobedience of one person the many were made sinners, so through the obedience of one the many will be made righteous***.***
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20 ****** The law entered in so that transgression might increase but, where sin increased, grace overflowed all the more,****** 21 *** so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through justification for eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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I’d especially foxus on verse 17.
 
Thank you! Thank You! Thank You! Not Worthy.🙂

I was concerned when I read the comment on my blog because I have never heard a Protestant or Catholic say such a thing. And I want to gently correct this person so that they don’t begin to believe things that could lead them away from Christianity.
 
I’m curious, your poster may be Calvinist and believing in Pre-Destination (double pre-destination to Catholics… I know, it’s confusing). He may feel that some are destined to hell. In my opinion, you can’t believe in Calvinism without coming to the conclusion that Jesus died only for those destined to go to heaven.
 
deb1 said:
:confused: On my blog a poster claimed that Jesus did not die for everyone’s sin. There must be a verse that says otherwise.

Also, how could a Christian believe that Jesus didn’t die for eveyone’s sins?

If you could lead me to a verse that will correct this poster, I would be very grateful.
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1 John 2:2 is a classic.

That poster was a Calvinist, and their conclusions stem from a false understanding of the Atonement.
 
Thank you both. I hadn’t considered that the poster was a Calvinist.
 
Brady, the man that you debated said things that would bother not just Catholics but Protestants as well. I have no idea how to debate someone with so many odd, unChristian believes. I would pray for him-even though he doesn’t want Christians to pray:rolleyes: -because only the Holy Spirit can change someone that far mistaken.
 
NotWorthy said:
I’m curious, your poster may be Calvinist and believing in Pre-Destination (double pre-destination to Catholics… I know, it’s confusing). He may feel that some are destined to hell. In my opinion, you can’t believe in Calvinism without coming to the conclusion that Jesus died only for those destined to go to heaven.
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Would he have to be a hyper Calvinist like Phelps, the leader of the Church that protests military funerals? Or do all Calvinist believe that Jesus died just for the sin of a select few.
 
deb1 said:
Would he have to be a hyper Calvinist like Phelps, the leader of the Church that protests military funerals? Or do all Calvinist believe that Jesus died just for the sin of a select few.
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I’m certainly no expert on this subject (Sandusky would verify that! :)), but I think it’s a case of what determines his belief.

How much does his Pre-Destination belief influence his interpretation of Scripture. As Catholics, we’re taught to read Scripture in the light of Christ. That’s how we see Baptism in the crossing of the Red Sea (or Reed Sea).

Well, this poster seems to be reading everything in the light of “pre-destination”. This would influence your entire belief system. Allow me to illustrate:

a) Only the elect are chosen to get to heaven.

Therefore,
b) Some are chosen to go to hell (simply by being excluded from heaven).

Therefore,
c) Jesus couldn’t have died for those who He chose to go to hell, otherwise his Sacrifice would have been incomplete.

Since Jesus’ Sacrifice is complete, then
d) Jesus only died for some, but not all.

You see how the basic belief leads one to other heretical beliefs? This is why the Church is so adamant about some ofthe most minor details of Christology. A sniper who is a hair off on his aim will miss by numerous feet. The slightest miss will magnify.
 
From Hebrews 10
10 By this “will,” we have been consecrated through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 Every priest stands daily at his ministry, offering frequently those same sacrifices that can never take away sins.
***12 But this one offered one sacrifice for sins, and took his seat forever at the right hand of God;
13 now he waits until his enemies are made his footstool.
14 for by one offering he has made perfect forever those who are being consecrated. ***
15 The holy Spirit also testifies to us, for after saying:
16 “This is the covenant I will establish with them after those days, says the Lord: ‘I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them upon their minds,’”
***17 he also says: “Their sins and their evildoing I will remember no more.”
18 Where there is forgiveness of these, there is no longer offering for sin. ***
19 Therefore, brothers, since through the blood of Jesus we have confidence of entrance into the sanctuary
20 by the new and living way he opened for us through the veil, that is, his flesh,
21 and since we have “a great priest over the house of God,”
22 Let us approach with a sincere heart and in absolute trust, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed in pure water.
23 Let us hold unwaveringly to our confession that gives us hope, for he who made the promise is trustworthy.
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deb1 said:
Would he have to be a hyper Calvinist like Phelps, the leader of the Church that protests military funerals? Or do all Calvinist believe that Jesus died just for the sin of a select few.
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Logically, all Calvinists should believe in limited atonement (though some shy away from it). The reason stems from the Protestant understanding of the atonement, which is radically different from the Catholic view.

Click on my link in my signature and read “chapter 2” for more info.
 
peary said:
Don’t know about that… “for the many” is not the same thing as "for all."
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You strip out one verse and make this statement? That’s incomplete and you know it. Look at part of what I originally posted.

…so through one righteous act acquittal and life came to all. The gift of life is given for all.
…so through the obedience of one the many will be made righteous**.* “The many” will be made righteous. Not all get to heaven, sadly.
 
NotWorthy said:
Romans 5 seems to paint the picture rather well.

I’d especially foxus on verse 17.
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Not having read every post, I still would like to comment on this one.

This is a very deep theological question. If Christ died for all, then will all be saved? There’s a little more to it than that.

Reminds me of Eccl 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

We all believe that the spirit returns to God when one dies but do all spirits return to God at that time? Many Pastors will quickly tell you that only those who are “saved” return to God but the Scripture doesn’t say that. It says when one dies, the spirit returns to God.

Makes you want to dig deeper and deeper…At least to a theologian…

I have written several well known, nationally well known, Pastors about that verse in Ecclesiastes and have not received a really good answer yet.
 
Old_Scholar said:
Not having read every post, I still would like to comment on this one.

This is a very deep theological question. If Christ died for all, then will all be saved? There’s a little more to it than that.

Reminds me of Eccl 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

We all believe that the spirit returns to God when one dies but do all spirits return to God at that time? Many Pastors will quickly tell you that only those who are “saved” return to God but the Scripture doesn’t say that. It says when one dies, the spirit returns to God.
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Are you sure these “spirits” are souls.

The NAB translates it: And the dust returns to the earth as it once was, and the life breath returns to God who gave it. That would be the Holy Spirit, wouldn’t it? The “ruah” (if I spelled it right?
 
deb1 said:
:confused: On my blog a poster claimed that Jesus did not die for everyone’s sin. There must be a verse that says otherwise.
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I would also add

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God has appeared for the salvation of all men…
 
NotWorthy said:
Are you sure these “spirits” are souls.

The NAB translates it: And the dust returns to the earth as it once was, and the life breath returns to God who gave it. That would be the Holy Spirit, wouldn’t it? The “ruah” (if I spelled it right?
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It is Ruwach and it means wind or breath. It does not refer to the Holy Spirit. When God breathed into the mouth of man, he breathed life into him. That is the ‘breath’ or life that returns to God. Not the soul. Scripture says that when breath was breathed into man, man became a ‘living soul.’ Man is a living soul and when the body dies, the soul dies.

We must remember however that when man dies, he then assumes “God Time” and time to God doesn’t change. Scripture says that to God, a day is like a thousand years, or a thousand years is like a day. If man is in the grave for 1,000 years, as far as he is concerned, when he closes his eyes in death, he will instantly open them at the resurrection. Time in the grave doesn’t count on God’s time.

May God Bless…

That is my opinion and what I get out of God’s word.
 
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