White wine? and other questions

[choirgirl]

I recently attended a Mass where white wine was used for communion. Is this legit???

Also, after that same Mass, I saw a woman pouring the water from the hand washing basin used before Commuinion by the priest into a drinking fountain drain. What is this basin called? and can that water go down a common drain or should it be disposed of through the special drain that goes straight to the ground?

Question 3 (sorry so many): this parish is on a military base, and as such, the facility is used for both Catholic and Protestant services at different times. The Tabernacle is kept in a separate room (along with the Sanctuary candle ( correct terminology?). Ok, so the question is, do I genuflect in the sanctuary or not? If yes, toward the alter or presider’s chair?

I’d greatly appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut anyone has. Thanks.

 

[Swiss_Guard]

choirgirl:

I recently attended a Mass where white wine was used for communion. Is this legit???

White wine is correct matter for consecration. Wine must be made from grapes. Cherry wine would not be correct matter.

choirgirl:

Also, after that same Mass, I saw a woman pouring the water from the hand washing basin used before Commuinion by the priest into a drinking fountain drain. What is this basin called? and can that water go down a common drain or should it be disposed of through the special drain that goes straight to the ground?

The water should be disposed in the sequarium, which is a special drain. However, the water used for the washing of hands isn’t blessed, so it’s not inappropriate to dispose of it in a regular drain.

choirgirl:

Question 3 (sorry so many): this parish is on a military base, and as such, the facility is used for both Catholic and Protestant services at different times. The Tabernacle is kept in a separate room (along with the Sanctuary candle ( correct terminology?). Ok, so the question is, do I genuflect in the sanctuary or not? If yes, toward the alter or presider’s chair?

I’d greatly appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut anyone has. Thanks.

The only ones who should be in the sanctuary are those who are assisting the priest at Mass. Altar servers, lectors and extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion may be in the sanctuary.

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Genuflection is only done when the Blessed Sacrament is present. You should bow towards the crucifix. You do not make any gestures towards the altar or the president’s chair (I hate it when the priest is referred to as presider, as if he’s just officiating at some function).

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Sanctuary lamp is the correct term but sanctuary candle is also acceptable.

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I hope this helps.

 

[Bobby_Jim]

(I hate it when the priest is referred to as presider, as if he’s just officiating at some function).

I think presider is the term that’s used in rubrics since the mass could be celebrated by a priest or bishop, and there may also be concelebrating priests who are not the principal celebrant or “presider”. So it’s a perfectly legitimate term, although in the common case of one priest at a mass, the term is redundant.

 

[Swiss_Guard]

Bobby Jim:

I think presider is the term that’s used in rubrics since the mass could be celebrated by a priest or bishop, and there may also be concelebrating priests who are not the principal celebrant or “presider”. So it’s a perfectly legitimate term, although in the common case of one priest at a mass, the term is redundant.

I know it’s a legitimate term, I just don’t like it because it isn’t properly explained. Some people think presider means the priest is just there to officiate at a ceremony. The priest confects the sacrament of the Eucharist at every Mass.

 

[Pariah_Pirana]

Bobby Jim:

I think presider is the term that’s used in rubrics since the mass could be celebrated by a priest or bishop, and there may also be concelebrating priests who are not the principal celebrant or “presider”. So it’s a perfectly legitimate term, although in the common case of one priest at a mass, the term is redundant.

I don’t see the term “presider” in the rubrics. The real reason this Protestant-based term is pushed so hard today by some is to emphasize that we all “celebrate” the Mass.

I thought our “liturgist” was going to bust a vein when we recently hung a history-marking bronze plaque at my parish and it mentioned a specific priest as the “celebrant” versus a “presider.”

 

[Pariah_Pirana]

choirgirl:

…Also, after that same Mass, I saw a woman pouring the water from the hand washing basin used before Commuinion by the priest into a drinking fountain drain. What is this basin called? and can that water go down a common drain or should it be disposed of through the special drain that goes straight to the ground?

Question 3 (sorry so many): this parish is on a military base, and as such, the facility is used for both Catholic and Protestant services at different times. The Tabernacle is kept in a separate room (along with the Sanctuary candle ( correct terminology?). Ok, so the question is, do I genuflect in the sanctuary or not? If yes, toward the alter or presider’s chair?

I’d greatly appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut anyone has. Thanks.

The basin is called just that – the lavabo basin and ewer. Yes, that water can be poured directly into the sewer – it must not be poured down the ***sacrarium ***which drains directly to the Earth.

Keep in mind that the Mass is never a “service.” I’m not sure what you are doing in the sanctuary, but as Catholics we bow to the altar, genuflect to the reposed Blessed Sacrament and kneel to the exposed Blessed Sacrament – and that’s it. We don’t kneel or bow to ether the crucifix or the celebrant’s chair.

 

[choirgirl]

Thank you for all of your help

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

choirgirl:

I recently attended a Mass where white wine was used for communion. Is this legit???

Also, after that same Mass, I saw a woman pouring the water from the hand washing basin used before Commuinion by the priest into a drinking fountain drain. What is this basin called? and can that water go down a common drain or should it be disposed of through the special drain that goes straight to the ground?

Question 3 (sorry so many): this parish is on a military base, and as such, the facility is used for both Catholic and Protestant services at different times. The Tabernacle is kept in a separate room (along with the Sanctuary candle ( correct terminology?). Ok, so the question is, do I genuflect in the sanctuary or not? If yes, toward the alter or presider’s chair?

I’d greatly appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut anyone has. Thanks.

White wine is ok.

The water from the Lavabo is not required to be poured down the Sacrarium.

IF the taberncale is located physically in the room you are in you should genuflect to Christ in the tabernacle. If it is in another room you should bow to the Crucifix or altar. Never the presiders chair.

 

[baltobetsy]

Just to expand a little on the genuflecting/bowing question - as one poster has already stated, if the tabernacle is in the room with you, genuflect in that direction, because Jesus Himself is there. If not, the proper place to bow is in the direction of the altar, because it represents Christ, who is, as one of the Eucharistic Prayers says, “the Priest, the Altar and the Lamb of Sacrifice.” If you can’t figure out where the Holy Eucharist is reserved, look for the sanctuary lamp, which burns near the tabernacle to indicate the presence of Jesus there.

Betsy