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A friend of mine told me he went to a mass where they used white wine instead of red wine. Is this acceptable?
Why would it not be?A friend of mine told me he went to a mass where they used white wine instead of red wine. Is this acceptable?
before VII I would say white wine was the norm - at least in the USA.A friend of mine told me he went to a mass where they used white wine instead of red wine. Is this acceptable?
perhaps because red wine better brings to mind the blood of Christ than white?can you give some reason why you think it would not be acceptable, and some reason why a friend would raise a doubt in your mind like this?
ah, perhaps so, but the red wine tastes better!I think white is preferable for three reasons, in addition to the laundry reason mentioned above.
- It makes transubstantiation more obvious to me - that is, the wine does not resemble blood, which makes it clear that we receive the substance, independent of the accidents.
- Using white wine means that children and others are not horrified and put off by the appearance. It’s difficult enough to convince some of them that it’s not ‘disgusting’ to drink blood.
- It means that those of us whose migraines are triggered by red wine can receive from the chalice.
I am curious: Is there data to support this?… most Catholics are used to seeing red wine…
Looking back, I guess it was wrong to say “most Catholics are used to seeing red wine”I am curious: Is there data to support this?
I can easily believe that most Catholics are used to whatever they see in their own parishes*, but is it known that most parishes use red? I know the parish I grew up in used white, and the first time I visited a community using red it was a striking difference, but it did not cause me to question its legitimacy.
(* Those who are aware at all, I mean – I would not be surprised to learn that a sizeable number of Catholics have no idea what color of wine is used even in their own parish)
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I could ascertain a plausible guesstimate concerning liturgical abuses related to excessive wine being consecrated with a number of EMHC’s not willing to consume the Precious Blood which sometimes finds it way poured down the seaquarium. Just one of the liturgical abuses I’ve seen repeated in my parish and have read about in many others.With the liturgical abuse that goes on our diocese you would understand …
But why should there be any confusion under the right direction given to the (“Altar Servers”) Even with white wine there’s a slight obvious color differentiation of it being light-amber or slightly yellowed in distinction compared to clear water. And if they’re not sure all they have to do is make the effort to lift the stopper from the cruet and smell. Liturgically there’s no special onus or significance between white or red wine other than the type of white or red wine itself under necessity of being ecclesiastically approved for Mass consecration.I have ordered both white wine and red wine for the altar. However, Father only uses the white wine during daily Mass. You ask why? Because the altar servers at weekend Masses have gotten the white wine & water cruets confused!!! Red wine is obviously wine rather than water, so it is easier for the kids to tell the difference.![]()
I’m guessing you mean the sacrarium. So long as the Precious Blood is diluted so that it no longer resembles wine, the Church has no problem with it.I could ascertain a plausible guesstimate concerning liturgical abuses related to excessive wine being consecrated with a number of EMHC’s not willing to consume the Precious Blood which sometimes finds it way poured down the seaquarium. Just one of the liturgical abuses I’ve seen repeated in my parish and have read about in many others.