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I was raised in Australia and moved to the US last year…I attended one church here in WA and they had white wine. I have never ever seen this before…is this common here in the US? I was raised to believe that the wine should be red as it symbolizes His blood…:confused:
 
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I was raised in Australia and moved to the US last year…I attended one church here in WA and they had white wine. I have never ever seen this before…is this common here in the US? I was raised to believe that the wine should be red as it symbolizes His blood…:confused:
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Im quite sure that would Invalidate the Mass.

I may be wrong though…
 
Canon 924 - as long as it’s pure fermented grape juice it can be either white or red, not that I’ve ever had white.
 
CatholicNick said:
Im quite sure that would Invalidate the Mass.

I may be wrong though…
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I actually don’t feel right taking the white wine so I actually found another church. There are other things this particular parish did as well that made me uncomf. as well.

Thanks to you all for the answers! 🙂
 
Oh my the things you hear. Invalidate the sacrament becuase the wine isn’t red? Yer kiddin right?

If we remember the precious blood is the precious blood only in substance. The appearance has NO bearing on it. However I do recall that the USCCB
and Girm says this
christusrex.org/www1/mcitl/girmch6.html#A

If some churches would use the proper vessels for communion most people wouldn’t even know what color the wine was anyway.
 
I never remember red wine being used around here until people started receiving the Precious Blood. I never remember red wine being used back in the “old days” and it is not used in my TLM parish today.

I suppose people need the symbolism of the red wine and blood or they won’t believe that it is really the Blood of Jesus.
 
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As I said, I now know I was wrong - and humbly withdraw my initial statement.

No need to take that tone.
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OOOHH the vultures are out today and looking for “red” meat.😛 (OK, usually I’m one of them - but today I am much more sparrow-like.)
 
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Many Lutheran Churches use white wine.
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Growing up in Pre-VII world, the wine was white in my home parish. And it was lousy wine, too. Yes, altar boys, including yours truly, were bad back then and tried it. Gack. It put me off wine for years.
 
johnnykins said:
Growing up in Pre-VII world, the wine was white in my home parish. And it was lousy wine, too. Yes, altar boys, including yours truly, were bad back then and tried it. Gack. It put me off wine for years.
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At the Redemptorist parish they use some varietal (and we have been seeing more and more at my parish) that tastes something like maple syrup and gasoline.
 
chotock said:
At the Redemptorist parish they use some varietal (and we have been seeing more and more at my parish) that tastes something like maple syrup and gasoline.
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Maybe with public communion in both kinds this represents a form of penance to make up for the lack of confession on the part of so many!😛
 
I never remember red wine being used around here until people started receiving the Precious Blood. I never remember red wine being used back in the “old days” and it is not used in my TLM parish today.
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Growing up in Pre-VII world, the wine was white in my home parish.
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Yes. It is actually MORE traditional to have white wine.

Therefore, people positing that it may invalidate the sacrament, always having had red wine, or switching parishes because they “don’t feel right” having white…is an incomprehensible paradigm to real traditional catholics. It really shows the lack of catechism that the modern church provided to a certain generation, and the odd assumptions people trying to be conservative (but knowing little of true tradition) make all the time on these boards.

The fact is, the color of the wine doesn’t matter. BUT the church actually at one time mandated that the wine be WHITE as a teaching tool. I’m not sure how universal or official this was, but white wine was the tradition in many regions in the old days, though some still used red.

Just as the church once mandated that people in the west recieve only the host (to clear up confusion about the whole christ being present under each species), so too she once mandated (at least some local councils did) that the wine be WHITE in order to clear up confusion about only the substance changing, but not the accidents (with red wine, some people mistakenly thought the wine was visibly his blood). This became the predominant tradition in the west.
 
A priest told me that he (and other priests he knows) use white wine for practical reasons: it doesn’t stain the altar linens as much as red wine does, so they’re easier to wash and have to be washed less frequently. 👍

There are some requirements for the sacramental wine (it has to be pure with nothing mixed into it, and have a certain sugar content) but the colour is not significant. 🙂

Karolina
 
One of the churches here uses white wine also. At first I was a bit puzzled, but soon realized that a light colored carpet was under the altar and white wine would not leave a stain in case of an accident. However, there is one thing that I have a peave about and it is not about the color of the wine: when taking the remainder of Christ’s blood to the sacristy to finish consuming, some Eucharistic Ministers continue to call it wine. I spoke with the pastoral associate about this since she was responsible for their training. The p.a. said that it can still be called wine. I said that it should not be spoken of using those words lest any do not fully understand the difference. I have found documents and writing supporting my belief. On the other hand, I have also found documents that referred to the consecrated wine as just that. Any thoughts to add?
 
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