Who are the Free Masons and what did they do to the Faith?

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Hi, I’m new here, I couldn’t find a section that seemed most right to post except here.

Okay, so I don’t understand who the Freemasons are, and/or what they do/did to the faith. I was just curious, as two of my school mates seem to idolize them. The fact is, that I go to a Christian school, and I sought knowledge from my parents about them. So my Mom said that they are a Satanist cult, my fellow schoolmates say they are a cult, but not satanist and that they are group of different people who share beliefs and ideas etc…

Note that I live in the Philippines and I found a few houses with their symbol aswell as cars…

Like I said, forgive me if this was the wrong section.
 
They are an organization with a set of beliefs contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church. The gist of what they believe as a group is that all religions are essentially equal, and God does not favor one belief over another, or something like that.

The Freemasons have a history of attempting and plotting to take down and/or eradicate the Catholic Church. Regardless of what some of the smaller sects of freemasonry may say they believe, Catholics are forbidden from joining any group or fraternity associated with the Freemasons, under penalty of excommunication.
 
Though at least in the United States it is unlikely they plot to overthrow the government, or have for some time, the very fact they stand for indifferentism as the Church sees it is enough to bar any Catholic from joining, under pain of excommunication.

I am not familiar enough with the Philippine Masons in politics, but the indifferentism should be enough to dissuade you from joining.
 
From what I’m told the Freemasons were a order formed after the pope disbanded the Templar order. With that said these Templars were mad so the formed the Freemasons that try to abolish and cause trouble directed towards the Catholic Church. That is why we can’t be masons they seek to be rid of our church and what it stands for. Their order also has beliefs that are entirely contrary to Catholics and all of Christianity .
 
I live in the U.S. and know plenty of masons. These are people I know very well, but we simply do not discuss the matter. However, there is plenty I have learned simply from being with the year after year (I know about the books the read, their philosophies, etc.). Basically, the masons I know are simply seeking “the truth.” As a very simple example, they’re extracting common themes from all the different religions and drawing conclusions. They have no interest in overthrowing governments or churches. Obviously, lodges in other countries are different.
 
**The Masons did not form a group after the Templar knights were disbanded. This is a myth they love to propogate. What happened in reality is that they were founded in the 1700’s in England. Their first meeting place was called “Devils Tavern”. The Freemasons believe that when you become initiated, you are asked to swear by a higher belief. This higher belief could be anything, literally. If I said I believe in the chair, then the chair is MY god. The problem with this is twofold

A) Idolatry

B) CHRIST said " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, NO ONE comes to the Father, but by ME".

The freemasons have also espoused satanic mock rituals. One of the degrees of further initation include a mocking of the Last Supper. They pronouce curses upon themselves (Quite horrifying ones in fact) and most of their members (the upper echelon) were espoused with not only the occult, but satanism itself.

Freemasonry was responsible for the persecution and murder of Catholics across Mexico in the 1920’s. Freemasons in high government pestered St. Bernadette Souberois and The Three Fatima Children upon recieving their respective messages from Our Lady. Freemasonry has principles that are directly contrary to Catholicism and thus this cult should be avoided like the plague. It is also a mortal sin to join the masons lodge. **
 
TheWarriorMonk said:
I live in the U.S. and know plenty of masons. These are people I know very well, but we simply do not discuss the matter. However, there is plenty I have learned simply from being with the year after year (I know about the books the read, their philosophies, etc.). Basically, the masons I know are simply seeking “the truth.” As a very simple example, they’re extracting common themes from all the different religions and drawing conclusions. They have no interest in overthrowing governments or churches. Obviously, lodges in other countries are different.
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**Seeking the Truth should not have to be interconnected with secret rituals and occultic influences. Nor with persecution of Catholics. Both of which are hallmarks of Masonry. The problem starts at the 32nd and 33rd degree of Masonry. **
 
mymamamary said:
Seeking the Truth should not have to be interconnected with secret rituals and occultic influences. Nor with persecution of Catholics. Both of which are hallmarks of Masonry.

This may be true in some countries, but I have not seen in here. In fact, it the complete opposite. They are not interested in politics, nor are they interested in persecuting anyone of any religion, Catholics include.
The problem starts at the 32nd and 33rd degree of Masonry.
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TheWarriorMonk said:
This may be true in some countries, but I have not seen in here. In fact, it the complete opposite. They are not interested in politics, nor are they interested in persecuting anyone of any religion, Catholics include.

. It should also be noted that people with no knowledge of masonry seem to have great knowledge about the “32nd and 33rd” degrees. How did they get this knowledge…certainly not from anyone that is reputedly a 32nd or 33rd degree mason.
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Just like in Catholicism, a 32nd or 33rd degree Mason is one who has been fully initiated into the cult. Like a Confirmed Catholic, they are to then defend their ideology and make progress towards achieving Masonic goals.
 
It was the Freemasons in Mexico’s federal government that were responsible for persecuting Catholics in the 1920’s.
 
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They are a fraternal organization dedicated to improving the self. If that means helping others then they help others, but it is self-serving. Generally they only believe in one God, the Grand Architect of the Universe. Whatever you want to call him, her, or it, is up to the member. So the Holy Trinity is not something they support. As for the devil worshiping and satanism which is rumored to happen, only the highest ranks can truly tell you. However, their beliefs may be similar to LaVeyan Satanism which holds that the individual is godlike and needs to improve the self to maintain his divinity. Or for the Freemasons improving the self is to come closer to God. That’s my educated guess based on what I’ve read.
 
BigdogAman said:
From what I’m told the Freemasons were a order formed after the pope disbanded the Templar order. With that said these Templars were mad so the formed the Freemasons that try to abolish and cause trouble directed towards the Catholic Church. That is why we can’t be masons they seek to be rid of our church and what it stands for. Their order also has beliefs that are entirely contrary to Catholics and all of Christianity .
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I don’t think there is any link between the Knights Templar and the freemasons/illuminati or all the conspiracy nonsense. The Knights Templar were a solid Catholic Order. That’s it.
 
For the O.P. and the original question, you can read the following Papal Encyclicals and see why free masonry is anathema to the Church:

papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13human.htm

papalencyclicals.net/Clem12/c12inemengl.htm

Pope Clement XII
“Therefore, bearing in mind the great harm which is often caused by such Societies or Conventicles not only to the peace of the temporal state but also to the well-being of souls, and realizing that they do not hold by either civil or canonical sanctions; and since We are taught by the divine word that it is the part of faithful servant and of the master of the Lord’s household to watch day and night lest such men as these break into the household like thieves, and like foxes seek to destroy the vineyard; in fact, to prevent the hearts of the simple being perverted, and the innocent secretly wounded by their arrows, and to block that broad road which could be opened to the uncorrected commission of sin and for the other just and reasonable motives known to Us; We therefore, having taken counsel of some of Our Venerable Brothers among the Cardinals of the Holy Roman Church, and also of Our own accord and with certain knowledge and mature deliberations, with the plenitude of the Apostolic power do hereby determine and have decreed that these same Societies, Companies, Assemblies, Meetings, Congregations, or Conventicles of Liberi Muratori or Francs Massons, or whatever other name they may go by, are to be condemned and prohibited, and by Our present Constitution, valid for ever, We do condemn and prohibit them.”

And yes, this is still a problem today:
eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2013/05/priest-excommunicated-for-membership-in.html

Some will role their eyes when subjects like this come up. They will point out that this is ancient history, old fashioned superstitions, “we are modern now”. But i would counter that the evil one is constantly on the attack and these groups are even more insidious today than they have ever been. And we must be ever vigilant against heresy and the loss of souls to the father of all lies.

H.H. Pope Francis:
“Thirdly, professing. We can walk as much as we want, we can build many things, but if we do not profess Jesus Christ, things go wrong. We may become a charitable NGO, but not the Church, the Bride of the Lord. When we are not walking, we stop moving. When we are not building on the stones, what happens? The same thing that happens to children on the beach when they build sandcastles: everything is swept away, there is no solidity. When we do not profess Jesus Christ, the saying of Léon Bloy comes to mind: “Anyone who does not pray to the Lord prays to the devil.” When we do not profess Jesus Christ, we profess the worldliness of the devil, a demonic worldliness.”
lifesitenews.com/resources/to-walk-to-build-to-confess-pope-franciss-first-homily
 
TEPO said:
Just like in Catholicism, a 32nd or 33rd degree Mason is one who has been fully initiated into the cult. Like a Confirmed Catholic, they are to then defend their ideology and make progress towards achieving Masonic goals.
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Which 32nd or 33rd degree Mason did you get this information from?

Obviously, masonic activity and ideas do not conform with those of Catholicism. But wild, baseless accusations by people who could have no knowledge of such things isn’t helpful to discussion of theses points. Fact is, it’s hearsay, and conspiracy-type nonsense.
 
TheWarriorMonk said:
…As a very simple example, they’re extracting common themes from all the different religions and drawing conclusions. …
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Actually if you ever read how this is done and presented to the mason that is exactly where and when the religious indifferentism enters the picture. It’s staged material that is one-sided against Christianity; some of it seems to deliberately have no other purpose than to make Christianity appear as a hodge-podge of various pagan beliefs. The Christian Mason, as is typical in Masonry, is disarmed and isolated. He is undermined by logical inference. Probably he has never seen or heard of any of this before (because we’re not pagans) and so doesn’t know what to make of the implications of the material. I am trying to find again the relevant texts about it and will post it if I can find it. Again, it is only implied but any reasonable person could make the inference so long as they aren’t in denial.
 
TheWarriorMonk said:
Which 32nd or 33rd degree Mason did you get this information from?

Obviously, masonic activity and ideas do not conform with those of Catholicism. But wild, baseless accusations by people who could have no knowledge of such things isn’t helpful to discussion of theses points. Fact is, it’s hearsay, and conspiracy-type nonsense.
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Here is one perspective WarriorMonk from a Catholic who was a Mason, and a 32 degree one. John Salza.

youtube.com/watch?v=f3XWFvjacvQ

It is a long video, but very interesting in it’s content.
 
Whoa! Been awhile, but all your answers were very informative! Some creepy, but it appears my schoolmates haven’t done their research properly. Thanks for your answers!
 
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