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. . . . .seeking dialog with Orthodox and Catholics for better understanding of respective religions and political cooperation?
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Oh, come on!! There must be someone!!
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Malachi4U
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A wolf in sheeps clothing perhaps?
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mark_a
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I guess I need a catchier name. What was it about the question that made you suspect that?A wolf in sheeps clothing perhaps?
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Maccabees
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Billy Graham is pretty ecunemical but he is not a high brow ecunemical talker he just wants to emphasize where christians agree. I think Father Richard John Neuhaus was one of the better ecunemical leaders that the Lutheran church had but that all ended when he became a catholic priest. I guess that explains his friendly overatures to catholcism.
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Doihavtasay
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It depends on WHICH denomination! There are different ‘leaders’ for each and for many the trends, hence the type of leader, also changes.
I think the question would be more accurately stated this way : who are the popular protestant teachers.
Most prots don’t acknowledge and ‘leader’ or ultimate human authority. They just listen to whomever ‘touches’ them at the moment.
Reformers rely mostly on the written works of the reformers, Calvin, Luther, Augustine, Pieper, Sturgeon etc…
Tune in to any of the popular Christian stations and note who is preaching and has shows, and those would be the leaders for the majority as that is who they are going to be ‘following’.
Protesantism is kind of like cancer… there is no main cell or mass you can point to. It’s wide spread with different manifestations making it very difficult to mount any kind of organized out reach.
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Atreyu
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Carol I wouldn’t really call Augustine a reformer… Here is one thing that he said:
I’m pretty sure he mentioned quite a lot of other stuff about the Catholic Church as well, I just don’t know where to go to find it.
(I snatched this quote from Catholic Answers at this address).
I’m pretty sure he mentioned quite a lot of other stuff about the Catholic Church as well, I just don’t know where to go to find it.
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Doihavtasay
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Carol I wouldn’t really call Augustine a reformer… Here is one thing that he said:
(I snatched this quote from Catholic Answers at this address).
Well NOW I see that, but just try to tell that to someone from the ‘reformed’ camp’, Though their reasoning is : all were human, and so subject to error.
So anything that the Church Father’s said they no longer agree, is simply error and can be disregarded as ‘we know better now’
One good thing is if you keep reading, the same 'error’s keep popping up over and over and you begin to wonder just exactly WHO is truly wrong.
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Atreyu
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I don’t really understand why they could call Augustine a reformer, when in their minds, Augustine was wrong about the unity of the Catholic Church! He said very clearly that it is important to stay in unity with the Catholic Church, so how does that make him a reformer (even if he’s wrong)?
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Genesis315
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Atreyu:
Each and every individual Protestant is an infallible interpreter of Scripture–and of course, everyone who doesn’t agree with them is just a fallible human being.So anything that the Church Father’s said they no longer agree, is simply error and can be disregarded as ‘we know better now’
One good thing is if you keep reading, the same 'error’s keep popping up over and over and you begin to wonder just exactly WHO is truly wrong.
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Contarini
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mark a:
Timothy George
Geoffrey Wainwright
William Abraham
Carl Braaten
Robert Jenson
Mark Noll
Robert Webber
just to name a very few. I’m happy to provide more details about any of these people or others like them, but the question was so broad that there’s really no way to answer it other than a list of selected names off the top of my head.
And of course Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy are not “respective religions.” They are different forms of the same religion.
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Chuck Colson
Timothy George
Geoffrey Wainwright
William Abraham
Carl Braaten
Robert Jenson
Mark Noll
Robert Webber
just to name a very few. I’m happy to provide more details about any of these people or others like them, but the question was so broad that there’s really no way to answer it other than a list of selected names off the top of my head.
And of course Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy are not “respective religions.” They are different forms of the same religion.
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mark a:
anglicancommunion.org/lambeth/4/report8.html
wfn.org/2003/08/msg00161.html
ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PCCUANGL.HTM
fgcquaker.org/circ/to_lima_with_love.htm
porvoochurches.org/links.htm
porvoochurches.org/archive/firststeps1923.htm
anglicancommunion.org/tour/province.cfm?ID=S3
I’ve concentrated on Protestant ecumenical undertakings, simply to make the point that there is far more to the life of the Protestant Churches than the splits that one so often hears of. ##
This may be of some slight relevance:
anglicancommunion.org/lambeth/4/report8.html
wfn.org/2003/08/msg00161.html
ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PCCUANGL.HTM
fgcquaker.org/circ/to_lima_with_love.htm
porvoochurches.org/links.htm
porvoochurches.org/archive/firststeps1923.htm
anglicancommunion.org/tour/province.cfm?ID=S3
I’ve concentrated on Protestant ecumenical undertakings, simply to make the point that there is far more to the life of the Protestant Churches than the splits that one so often hears of. ##
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april_hosen
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I’m amazed no one mention Dr. Dobson! Surely ya’ll have heard of Focus on the Family. Someone already mentioned Billy Graham. Great man of God! Dr. Martain Luther King was a Protestant leader. He was a Pastor. Even the President of the United States in some way or another is a Christian leader There’s a lot! I’m sure if you google it you’d fine whole long list.
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mark_a
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Exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks.
I think you have corrected me a few other times also. . . . . .
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