Who chooses the Memorial Acclimation?

[4HisChurch]

Is there anything in the GIRM that talks about who is to choose which memorial acclimation is said on any given day? Does it matter if the cantor/choir director chooses it as opposed to the priest?

 

[jay29]

Is there anything in the GIRM that talks about who is to choose which memorial acclimation is said on any given day? Does it matter if the cantor/choir director chooses it as opposed to the priest?

The priest is the sole person who decides what happens in the Liturgy of the Eucharist and who chooses which Eucharistic Prayer to use. The laity have nothing to do with it. The priest is the “Persona Christi” not the laity.

 

[4HisChurch]

The priest is the sole person who decides what happens in the Liturgy of the Eucharist and who chooses which Eucharistic Prayer to use. The laity have nothing to do with it. The priest is the “Persona Christi” not the laity.

That was my thought too. But, if the Memorial Acclimation is sung, should the cantor ask the priest before each Mass which Mem. Ac. to use?

 

[Deacon_Ed]

While it is certainly true that the priest has the final say on everything that happens during the Mass, it is also true that he generally delegates certain aspects, especially music. While there are many priests who are very well trained in music, many are not. They generally have a music director who will choose not only the hymns that are used, but also the so-called “service music” (Lord’s Prayer, Lamb of God, Memorial Acclamation, Great Amen, etc.). The Kyrie is always an interesting point where the role of the deacon/cantor/priest can come into conflict since this may be done by any minister. Normally if I’m preaching I prefer to do the Kyrie since I can set the stage for my homily with it. MY bishop always uses form C which requires the deacon to lead the Kyrie. BTW, I always use Greek and never English for this.

Deacon Ed

 

[4HisChurch]

While it is certainly true that the priest has the final say on everything that happens during the Mass, it is also true that he generally delegates certain aspects, especially music. While there are many priests who are very well trained in music, many are not. They generally have a music director who will choose not only the hymns that are used, but also the so-called “service music” (Lord’s Prayer, Lamb of God, Memorial Acclamation, Great Amen, etc.). The Kyrie is always an interesting point where the role of the deacon/cantor/priest can come into conflict since this may be done by any minister. Normally if I’m preaching I prefer to do the Kyrie since I can set the stage for my homily with it. MY bishop always uses form C which requires the deacon to lead the Kyrie. BTW, I always use Greek and never English for this.

Deacon Ed

I never thought of the Kyrie as another potential issue! Thanks for the info.

 

[Luvadoxi]

Is the Memorial Acclamation the “Christ has died, Christ is risen…” and other forms?

I had a pet peeve at our Lifeteen Mass–the choir used instead of one of the 4 forms the Doxology…“Praise God from Whom all blessings flow…” This bothered me because it totally removed the commentary about how Christ was here, is here and will come again. Is this something for me to get worked up about?

 

[demerzel85]

I had a pet peeve at our Lifeteen Mass–the choir used instead of one of the 4 forms the Doxology…“Praise God from Whom all blessings flow…” This bothered me because it totally removed the commentary about how Christ was here, is here and will come again. Is this something for me to get worked up about?

Well changing the words of the Ordinary or adding any to it is liturgical abuse.

 

[Cavaille-Coll]

Interestingly, the acclamation “Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again” is an uniquely American innovation that has received some recent scrutiny from Rome. “Dying, You destroyed our death . . .” is probably the closest translation to the original Latin prayer, “Mortem tuam annuntiamus, Domine . . .” It’s still much better than Fr. Lucien Deiss’ awful “Keep in mind . . .” (did he ever write anything singable?)

 

[jbuck919]

Interestingly, the acclamation “Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again” is an uniquely American innovation that has received some recent scrutiny from Rome. “Dying, You destroyed our death . . .” is probably the closest translation to the original Latin prayer, “Mortem tuam annuntiamus, Domine . . .” It’s still much better than Fr. Lucien Deiss’ awful “Keep in mind . . .” (did he ever write anything singable?)

Please, Aristide, choose your words more carefully. “Awful” is appropriate to the idea of “reviving” this defunct-if-it-ever-existed-in-the-first-place “acclamation.” No, for Lucien Deiss I would reserve a choicer term. “Ghastly” comes to mind.