Who disciplines misbeheaving husbands in Islam?

[Emad]

Anderson33:

Hi again Emad. I am not sure if you are doing it in purpose or not. I have clearly stated that the issue at hand is not so much the morality of wife-beating, which of course, from a christian point of view, is depicable. We can discuss that on a different thread.

The issue here is why the disparity between husbands and wives?

why is there a very specific methodology on how to discipline wives, and why there’s nothing of the sort for husbands???

again, i am going to repeat it to make it perfectly clear:

**why is there a very specific methodology on how to discipline wives, and why there’s nothing of the sort for husbands???

why so much disparity???**

Could you please answer these questions to me clearly?

thanks

It was my misunderstanding of the verse. I am not a scholar, but I assume that the woman would do the same. First warn him, if that doesn’t work sleep in another bed, then if that doesn’t work to leave him.

 

[Anderson33]

Emad:

It was my misunderstanding of the verse. I am not a scholar, but I assume that the woman would do the same. First warn him, if that doesn’t work sleep in another bed, then if that doesn’t work to leave him.

thanks for the answer Emad, and thanks for admitting that it is only your personal opinion that you are giving to me. The way i see it, different people have different interpretations to most things. So it could be that a woman understands that she’s not entitled to correct her husband, right? after all, the quoran does not specify it.

Regarding this issue, i thought the Koran claimed it was perfectly clear and complete Emad.

Are you going to admit the Koran is not complete/clear?

how can you reconcile the confusion on this particular topic with the so-called completeness and clarity of the Koran?

one more thing you have also avoided to answer to me: I see that in your understanding on how to discipline husbands, you mentioned two of the steps recommended to correct wives. Curiously, you left the “beating” out of the equation for husbands, which of course is consistent with what you said on a different message about how “hiting/beating” works with women, but not with men.

You very convenietly avoided to answer this question, so i am going to pose it again:

Why does “hitting/beating” work with women and not with men?

i am going to repeat it so there’s no confusion about it:

Why does “hitting/beating” work with women and not with men?

are you going to clearly answer these questions to me?

thanks

 

[onestop]

In islam, man will be hold responsible for so many things about their wives and childrens, and will have to answer every single things to God later on about what they have done and their duty as a husband and father.

who disciplines misbehaving husband in islam?Islamic shariah laws discipline them!!! If they are caught committing adultery, death for them! They better behave themselves if they are married.

(even drinking too has physical punishment in islam actually! they better behave themselves alright)

 

[Faith101]

Anderson33:

the intention is very simple Emad:

I want to know why there is so much disparity regarding that particular subject

the Quoran is very specific as to how to discipline women, whereas with men is so vague or nonexistent, to say the least. You muslims claim that Islam means parity between husbands and wives. I beg to difer, and this is a very good point which i want to discuss in more detail.

Once you acknowledge this, then i will proceed with more questions.

Thanks

Peace Anderson33

There is actually a chapter in the Quran named Al mujadila translated as “She that disputes.” It tells a story of a woman who went to complain to Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) about her husband. She said " She said, `O Allah’s Messenger! He spent my wealth, exhausted my youth and my womb bore abundantly for him. When I became old, unable to bear children, he pronounced the Zihar on me!"

Zihar comes from a word which means “the back”. It refers to a practice done by arab men at the time…when he wanted to declare Zihar to his wife, he would say "To me, you are like the back of my mother.’’ which means that he wont sleep with her, but then again she is not completly divorced. This cycle would continue over and over again. The woman goes on to say that after he told her that “He went out and sat with some of his people. Then he came back and wanted to have sexual intercourse with me” and she refused…seeking first to seek the counsel of Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) and complain.

It wasnt the Prophet that answered her complaint, but God himself, in the verses revealed in the Quran.

So, the first verses starts

Allah has indeed heard (and accepted) the statement of the woman who pleads with thee (Mohamed)concerning her husband and carries her complaint (in prayer) to Allah. and Allah (always) hears the arguments between both sides among you: for Allah hears and sees (all things)
(Quran 58:1)

Then, it goes on to say that if you men are going to do this…you can not resume intercourse whenever you wish…you will actually have to go through actions of repentence which would include fasting for 2 consecutive months (not eating from sunup to sundown).

For those men who treat their wives like that…and ignore the verses of God…God has said

Those who resist Allah and His Messenger will be humbled to dust, as were those before them: for We have already sent down Clear Signs. And the Unbelievers (will have) a humiliating Penalty,-
On the Day that Allah will raise them all up (again) and show them the Truth (and meaning) of their conduct. Allah has reckoned its (value), though they may have forgotten it, for Allah is Witness to all things. (Quran 58:5-6)

So, in a way, as to the punishment of the men who mistreat their wives…God takes it upon himself to punish them.

 

[iamrefreshed]

onestop:

In islam, man will be hold responsible for so many things about their wives and childrens, and will have to answer every single things to God later on about what they have done and their duty as a husband and father.

who disciplines misbehaving husband in islam?Islamic shariah laws discipline them!!! If they are caught committing adultery, death for them! They better behave themselves if they are married.

(even drinking too has physical punishment in islam actually! they better behave themselves alright)

"death for them!"

Is it your opinion that this is the belief of all Muslim’s in your home country?

We have been told by Muslim’s here that this is untrue.