Who invented evil?

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All things come from God.
God is the first cause, so NOTHING whatsoever occurred before or without God.
Did God make Satan/The Devil as an evil being or did Satan somehow become corrupted by other means?
If there were other means, who or what was the first evil and first cause of evil, and how did it/they become evil?
 
Moral evil (sin) exists because of a freely chosen will. God made persons, both angel and human, who were able to either choose the Ultimate Good (God) or choose alternative paths, lacking goodness (Evil).

Physical evils are another story (storms, floods, etc.) They must originate in God, for he created the Universe. But indeed, the reason we humans are subject to physical evils is because of our sin. Redemption in Christ looks forward to a time when the entire created order will be renewed, and human persons will not be subject to suffering caused by their physical environment.
 
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Evil is not something, but rather the lack thereof.

At its fundamental level, evil is the lack of good.

Darkness is not ‘something’ but rather a lack of light
 
Creatures with the gift of free will “invented” the lack of goodness, which is evil.

And yes, all things come from God. But since evil is actually nothing i.e., It simply isn’t, then it is senseless to think that it could ever come from Him.
 
I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7
 
Darkness is something according to God otherwise why would he ask Job if he knows its place?

Job 38:19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
 
Seagull said:
I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil:
I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7
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You will find that cherry picking scripture will support most any viewpoint imaginable.
Human speech attempts to express realities that are veiled.
God is love. Love is creative. God cannot create evil.
 
Not so fast ; )

The word ‘evil’ in this case is related to calamities, punishments, sadness etc… To things that look evil in the eyes of humans. Not evil itself.

‘One can’t simply quote a few verses from Isaias.’ Boromir.jpg
 
OP: Listen to Maximilian75, catholic1seeks and goout

All good answers.
I recommend the Catholic Youth Handbook. Regardless of your age. Concise answers. Get the 2013 edition.
Peace.
 
TomS333 said:
Did God make Satan/The Devil as an evil being or did Satan somehow become corrupted by other means?

If there were other means, who or what was the first evil and first cause of evil, and how did it/they become evil?
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God did not make Satan evil, when God created the angels, he gave them a choice, (much like ours) wether to be good, and serve Him, or disobey Him. Satan, and his followers chose to be bad, hence the beginning of evil.
 
goout said:
You will find that cherry picking scripture will support most any viewpoint imaginable.
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That’s not true.
Anyways - just concordance " Good and Evil " - you’ll get a lot of verses.
And GOD, our Father, takes credit for it.
He " dishes it out " you could say - it’s not for us to wonder over it.
 
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Seagull said:
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goout:
You will find that cherry picking scripture will support most any viewpoint imaginable.
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That’s not true.
Anyways - just concordance " Good and Evil " - you’ll get a lot of verses.
And GOD, our Father, takes credit for it.
He " dishes it out " you could say - it’s not for us to wonder over it.
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Just so I get it straight:
You’re claiming that God creates evil…
Right?
 
goout said:
I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace, and create evil:

I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7
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Respectfully opinion only pondering on 🤔 that which is all Holy would not be all Holy if he created evil would he? One first has to know him to know when He Speaks and to know who is not of him and it is not he who is speaking? Jesus did he not seem to be very aware of>>> Jeremiah 8:8?

God tells us what does good and evil have in common, nothing?
ReadTheBible said:
Job 38:19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
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Job is a story maybe? In those times people asking questions what is life all about needing answers to their own suffering etc? Moral of the story being human beings we will suffer at times through out our life? Rather count the blessings for they far out weigh our trials and tribulations? 🤔

Dualistic good opposite evil. Our Heavenly Father gives us all Free Will, Freedom of choice? He is the fullness of Holy Love, seeks not to destroy, but gives us instructions to know right from wrong, does he not His Ten Commandments and how to live among each other and reduce such need, want suffering> Sermon on the Mount?
Aulef said:
Not so fast ; )

The word ‘evil’ in this case is related to calamities, punishments, sadness etc… To things that look evil in the eyes of humans. Not evil itself.

‘One can’t simply quote a few verses from Isaias.’ Boromir.jpg
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Agree with and nicely said! 🙂

satan is a word means persecutor, one who seeks to stop others from doing good, St Peter Jesus said? Stand behind me satan, it is word means what?

Peace 🙂
 
rose321 said:
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goout:
I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace, and create evil:

I the Lord do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7
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Respectfully opinion only pondering on 🤔 that which is all Holy would not be all Holy if he created evil would he? One first has to know him to know when He Speaks and to know who is not of him and it is not he who is speaking? Jesus did he not seem to be very aware of>>> Jeremiah 8:8?
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That’s not my quote! You quoted me with another poster’s material.
 
goout said:
Just so I get it straight: You’re claiming that God creates evil…Right?
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Yes. Without a doubt.
We have to accept it - as part as the " Divine Plan "
We have to face the worldly facts as Catholics.
We are children of the light -
and the darkness comprehended it not.
Sigh.
 
Once you pick your goal of your world view, you can have “ought” and “is” statements. So world views with a social goal can have “ought” and “is” statements about morally.
Mistakes vs evil in reference to the goal of that world view seem to be differentiated by the level of knowledge of actions that are detrimental to the goal of your world view. “Mistakes” are people being convinced they have picked the best pathway towards the goal of their world view but it ends up causing more problems than it solved. This is just being ignorant of that choice. “Evil” actions are where people knowingly pick the pathway counter to the goal of their world view to intentionally impede the progress society and other people have advanced towards that goal. That’s how I understand things.
So to your question of “who” invented evil? We did. We needed a label for the actions of people that have convinced us that they fully understood that their actions were to impede our progress towards our goal of human well-being through various world views. The idea of pointing at superstitious mythical entities is just a distraction.
 
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God can certainly create something that has privations in it, and it can definitely be said that God permits privations to exist and may even cause evils (privations of good), not to will the evil itself, but as accidental to a good He wills. Evil is not a substance in itself to be created, but I think we dig ourselves into a hole if we speak as if it’s excludes from His providence.
 
goout said:
That’s not my quote! You quoted me with another poster’s material.
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Respectfully sorry I seem to be doing that a lot I do not know what I am doing wrong. Will pay better attention to! Forgive me. Peace 🙂
 
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