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CutlerB
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The passages are Revelation 1:8; 21:6; 22:12-13. I see all kinds of answers around the Internet, but I just don’t know whats correct.
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StLudmilla
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Rev 1:8, 21:6, 22:12-13
The Lord God, Jesus Christ
The Lord God, Jesus Christ
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CutlerB
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Some kind of explanation would be helpful, as otherwise it just goes with the rest of the things I read on the Internet.
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bzkoss236
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What explanation is necessary. The book of Revelation is about St. John writing of what an angel had revealed to him. In the passages specifically mentioned, it is St. John quoting The Lord God, Jesus Christ in the revelation.
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CutlerB
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1:8 makes sense to me, although some disagree.
21:16 — Is Jesus saying He will be our father? That would make it more sound like the Father was speaking.
22:12-13: I don’t know why I put that in there.
It says in verse 16 that it is Jesus speaking.
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DaveBj
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The one speaking in 21:6 is “he who sits on the throne,” and the early chapters of the Revelation identify “him who sits on the throne” as someone other than Jesus (". . .to him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb. . ." “. . . standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb . . .” “. . . fell down before the throne and worshiped God . . .” . . . her child was snatched up to God and to His throne . . ." I believe that there is enough evidence to identify the one speaking in 21:6 as God the Father.
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mercytruth
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StLudmilla
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John 1:18
John 14:7-11
John 14:7-11
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thistle
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D-R Bible, Haydock Commentary:
Rev 1: Ver. 8. I am Alpha, and Omega. These, the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet, signify the same as what follows, the beginning, and the end, the first cause and last end of all intelligent beings, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty. These words agree only to him, who is the true God, and here are applied to our blessed Redeemer, who is to come and judge all. (Witham)
Rev 21: Ver. 6. It is done. The state of Christ’s Church on earth, and in this world, is now finished; and the time is come to reward the good, and to punish the wicked in the lake burning with fire and brimstone, in hell, with the devils for all eternity. (Witham) — This living water is God himself, of which the saints shall be inebriated at the source; i.e. in God himself. Enviable moment, when all the designs of God upon Jesus Christ and upon his Church will be accomplished: but how little thought of now! And how can we hope to be inebriated at this source of God above, if we do not aspire after it whilst we are in this dreary desert here below? He who begins and finishes gratuitously here below the work of our faith, crowns it still more liberally in heaven.
Rev 22: Ver. 13. I am alpha and omega.** See Chap. i. 8.** (Witham)
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patrick457
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A bit off-topic, but I should point out something here. John’s gospel is really distinctive in that the characters’ and the author’s/narrator’s voices merge with each other that very often you can’t really tell who is saying which: the characters are shown to speak out what the author thinks. Take for example John 3:16 (“For God so loved the world…”) While in the context it seems that it is Jesus who is speaking here, it could also very well be the author-narrator - in which case his voice has become one with Jesus’.
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patrick457
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“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
(Revelation 1:8)
And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” And he said to me, “It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
(Revelation 21:5-8)
I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”
And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”
“Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
(Revelation 22:8-16)
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mercytruth
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My apologies for not explaining.
Generally, prophetic writings are not easily interpreted.
However, since the scriptures say that the Son of God is the expressed image of God, and that both the Father and the Son are called 'Yahweh, one can assume that the names ascribed to God the Father can also be ascribed to the Son.
One of the unique aspects of the book of Revelations is that it is filled with allusions, or restatement of OT scriptures.
For instance, "Thus saith the LORD the king of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of Hosts: I am the first, and I am the last, and besides me there is no God. (Isaiah 44:6)
God’s peace
Micah
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