Who is the Best Apologist?

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PhilVaz:
Don’t get me started. Sungenis makes no valid scientific points against evolution in that article (or any of the anti-evolution articles he’s written to date). I’ve printed them all out in the past, and I printed this new one out last night. His main points are the following:

(1) no transitional fossils
(2) mutations are always harmful
(3) evolution is "blind chance"

All three are wrong, all three are misrepresentations of evolution, all three are tired old creationist cliches that have been demolished over and over again in at least 50 books written against creationists the past 25 years.

I answered Sungenis on the age of the earth and evolution, and so far he has ignored my response, except a little bit of the first part on theology. Now he says he won’t respond, he will only debate me publicly. I think it would be nice if someone (perhaps a Catholic geologist, biologist, etc) took my web articles, and used them to debate Sungenis in a formal debate on the science. It certainly would be interesting. But I am not trained in science. I will debate him on C vs. C++ or DirectX vs. OpenGL however.

Sungenis and theological issues
Sungenis and Age of the Earth
Sungenis and Evolution

Phil P
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Transitional fossils? You’re saying there ARE transitional fossils? That’s news to me.

I’m sure you recognize that certain parts of evolutionary theory are incompatible with the Catholic faith. 500,000 year old “ape-men” being one obvious point.
 
Karl Keating _ I just finished reading Catholicism And Fundametalism and am getting ready to start on The Usual Suspects.
 
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michaelgazin:
Who I believe is the “best” apologist is not necessarily my favorite. But I think Sungenis takes the cake.

Just curious as to others’ thoughts out there.
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No Other (please explain) option?
 
MikeO << Transitional fossils? You’re saying there ARE transitional fossils? That’s news to me. >>

And not news to paleontologists the past 150 years. They have found plenty. There are still gaps too. Here are the details.

Kathleen Hunt Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ
My version of that article

Also a short PDF that is easy to understand, by the American Geological Institute, and The Paleontological Society:

The Fossil Record for Dummies

MikeO << I’m sure you recognize that certain parts of evolutionary theory are incompatible with the Catholic faith. 500,000 year old “ape-men” being one obvious point. >>

I recognize there are theological conflicts or objections that can be raised, but you cannot deny the existence of ape-men that range from 2,000,000+ years ago (Australopethicines) to Neanderthals and modern homo sapiens. They existed. The problem is (I agree its a theological problem, but not a scientific one) is trying to fit them into a literal Genesis and an Adam/Eve context.

Here are two attempts from my own site, don’t worry I’ll have it all worked out in a few years. 😃

Adam was a Neanderthal

Adam, Eve, and the Hominid Fossil Record

A reading of Cardinal Ratzinger’s commentary on Genesis 1-3 would also help.

Phil P
 
I voted for Scott Hahn because he is really the one that opened my eyes about Catholicism and sent me on a whirlwind to where I am today entering the church finally.

Another very good one is John Martignoni from Alabama. His site is www.biblechristiansociety.com and uses scripture only for Apologetics because most protestants want scripture to back up your claims.
 
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EA_Man:
Sorry to disappoint, I don’t read James White or Boettner!
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I was just joshin’ with ya’. I always figured you were far more sensible than that…you can usually tell within the first couple of posts who the true “devotees” are…

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RyanL
 
I believe that you could lock anyone up in a room with scott Hahn and he could convert them.

Some might take hours…stubborn, maybe days, but converts nontheless.

His use of typology really makes the scripture flow!
 
Another vote for C. S. Lewis. But also…

Al Kresta has a wonderful book called Why do Catholics Genuflect?.

Patrick Madrid’s two books Where is that in the Bible? and Why is that in Tradition? are good, too.

And Peter Kreeft is amazing, especially his Socrates dialogues. My favorites are Socrates Meets Jesus and The Unaborted Socrates.
 
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