Who is the One Jesus said is the ONLY true God?

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Fauken said:
Okay, no qualms. But I didn’t see the word Bible in there nor written Scripture.

theMadJW:
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“Your word”= the inspired words of God.
No Bible existed then.
MUCH later, all the books were bound together, and called “Little Books” (Bible)
 
theMadJW said:
I believe in the Holy God-Spirit, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the God-Father and the unborn Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,…
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Interesting.

Have you ever read Augustine’s On the Trinity?
…who has not spoken of through any of the prophets.
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Not sure if this line makes any sense, though I am hesitant to point out the blunders of others.

Seems to confuse the actions of the subject, “who,” with the actions of the prophets because of the addition of the preposition “of” midsentence.

It would make more sense as…

…who has not spoken through any of the prophets.

Or…

…who was not spoken of by any of the prophets.
 
Please excuse my typing: I have big fingers and a small keyboard, and use 2 fingers!
 
theMadJW said:
“Open blasphemy”?
Quoting scripture instead of church theology?
It’s not I who said the Father is the ONLY true God- it was JESUS!
Was he “Openly blaspheming” God?
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MadJW,

You may be interested in reading the Book of Revelation (accepted by Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, as well as most, if not all mainline Protestants to be the last book in Holy Scripture) -
if you haven’t already - from start to finish - for a more plainer statement of Jesus Christ’s claim to divinity - to be God Himself.
 
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theMadJW said:
And yet the scriptures are there to PROVE what is true.
You either listen to them, or to men.
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False dichotomy.

The Scriptures, themselves, were written by men, so listening TO Scriptures means, by default , that you are listening to the writings (and the readings) of men.
 
Thanks, but have done so many times.
It shows otherwise. No Trinity, Triune Godhead, the Triunity, Co-Equal God Beings, Godhead, a Hypostaic Union, Divine essences, Divine Natures, a God-the-Son, a God-the-GHOST, Hypostasis, Homoousios, Perichoresis , a Godman, Omnipresence, Incarnation, a God who is a Sacred Mystery, a God ‘in three persons’, Dual natures, a reincarnate God, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, Godness, a Tri-Unity, multipersonal God, etc- here or elsewhere in the Bible.
 
The Bible- Written by men MOVED BY GOD’S SPIRIT, not their OWN spirit.
 
theMadJW said:
Thanks, but have done so many times.
It shows otherwise. No Trinity, Triune Godhead, the Triunity, Co-Equal God Beings, Godhead, a Hypostaic Union, Divine essences, Divine Natures, a God-the-Son, a God-the-GHOST, Hypostasis, Homoousios, Perichoresis , a Godman, Omnipresence, Incarnation, a God who is a Sacred Mystery, a God ‘in three persons’, Dual natures, a reincarnate God, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, Godness, a Tri-Unity, multipersonal God, etc- here or elsewhere in the Bible.
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And what do you think of those passages I quoted above (time stamped about 6 hours ago)?

(I do not say this in an accusatory fashion; I am asking you your opinion regarding them.)
 
angelic06 said:
The Book of Revelation is very explicit in Jesus’ claims to divinity:

’ “I am the Alpha and the Omega”, says the Lord God, “the one who is and who was and who is to come”.’ (Rev 1:8)

“Do not be afraid. I am the first and the last, the one who lives. Once I was dead, but now I am alive forever.” (Rev 1:17)

“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end…I, Jesus, sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the root and offspring of David, the bright morning star.” (Rev 22:13; 22:16)
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God and Christ have many similar titles- as here: Both are Kings, Saviors, Fathers, and Lords.
 
theMadJW said:
The Word of God, had become man, gone thru the most horrible of trials, and held True to his God and Father- Jehovah- and was REWARDED for it by being given this new position!
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Come again?
theMadJW said:
I believe in a Three-in-One one God,
the Nameless Father…
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So which is it? Nameless Father or Jehovah?

Big fingers and small keyboard again?

You are aware of the etymology of the word ‘Jehovah,’ are you not?
 
theMadJW said:
The Bible- Written by men MOVED BY GOD’S SPIRIT, not their OWN spirit.
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And you know that it was GOD’S SPIRIT and not their OWN spirit that moved those particular men, how?

By your OWN spirit or GOD’S SPIRIT?

How would you know for certain?
 
HarryStotle said:
How would you know for certain?
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That took a LOT of time; I looked deeply into the background of the Bible; and after MONTHS of such research, it became apparent.

I doubt I can convince you- YOU have to do it!

For example, it gives the only SENSIBLE origin of mankind, rather than ‘Evolution’ which teaches (indirectly) that Blind Chance/‘Natural’ Selections made us!
 
One more question for you before I say evening prayers, eat dinner, then do private scripture study:

What do you make Jesus’ commission to the eleven:

“All power in heaven and earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit”. (Mark 28: 18-19)

(I haven’t read this whole thread, so pardon me if you have already written on it above.)
 
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SIMPLE!
He isn’t the Almighty!
The Al;mighty GAVE him that authority, and even so, Jesus subjects himself to his God and Father!

Good night, me friend!
 
theMadJW said:
It’s Jehovah- but I thought your church didn’t use it anymore; it didn’t when I went.
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Our Church never used the name Jehovah.

It is based upon a copyist error transcribing the name of Yahweh from the Old Testament. The diacritical marks (vowels) used by the Hebrew writers around the name of God, יהוה were only meant to be spoken when saying the Hebrew word for LORD.

Hebrew scholars after the 6th century ensured that the name of the LORD יהוה would not be taken in vain by substituting the vowel marks for Adonai (Lord) and putting them under the consonants in the running text. What is to be read is called Qere, but what is to be written is the Ketiv. The Hebrew text of Scripture then, contains the Ketiv יהוה but uses the vowels of the Qere that were to be read. This led to a mistranslation and incorrect pronunciation of the written text יְהֹוָה as “Jehovah,” since in older English, the “J” had a “Y” sound.

Hence a perfect example of a human blunder.

The medieval equivalent of big fingers and small keyboard. 😖
 
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It’s use was popularized by the heretic William Tyndale…
 
HarryStotle said:
Our Church never used the name Jehovah.

It is based upon a copyist error…
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So the story goes.
Many Hebrew Scholars believe those vowels correct: Yehowah.
English often drops the “J”.
In ANY event “LORD” is NOT His (not ‘Their’) Name.

Michael returns to a remote Pacific Island he had once visited decades ago,
to see friends he had once met there.
Upon landing, the natives run out, shouting “Mukkil, Mukkil!”

Was he honored- or offended- that they didn’t pronounce his name correctly?
 
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