Who is watching/ has watched the EWTN TLM?

[Donna_Mc]

As I said on another thread, I found the Mass to be very
beautiful. I loved everything about it especially the reverence
that is sometimes lacking at Mass.

 

[JKirkLVNV]

I’m watching on the computer now.

I congratulate those who have longed for this day, may you rejoice in this, your hearts’ desire.

As for me, I will cling to the noble simplicity of the Ordinary Rite (properly celebrated).

 

[patrick457]

We also was watching it on our computer, precioussss.

The first time I ever witnessed one. I now long to see one live. I only want to know why is the Missa de Angelis used? Is it the ‘default’ melody for Masses in Ordinary days, so to speak?

 

[patrick457]

The smoke of Satan got into the Church

Through some fissure; when a day of sunshine should have followed instead.

Referring to the situation of the Church today, the Holy Father affirms that he has a sense that “from some fissure the smoke of Satan has entered the temple of God.”

There is no longer trust of the Church; they trust the first profane prophet who speaks in some journal or some social movement, and they run after him and ask him if he has the formula of true life.

And we are not alert to the fact that we are already the owners and masters of the formula of true life. Doubt has entered our consciences, and it entered by windows that should have been open to the light.

Science exists to give us truths that do not separate from God, but make us seek him all the more and celebrate him with greater intensity; instead, science gives us criticism and doubt.
Scientists are those who more thoughtfully and more painfully exert their minds.

But they end up teaching us: “I don’t know, we don’t know, we cannot know.”

 

[AngelicDoctor]

I watched it. Very beautiful. I am trying to follow along with my new Latin-English missal. I have no problem with Latin. My only difficulty is that much of the traditional Latin mass is spoken inaudibly by the celebrant… making it difficult to follow with a missal (I kow this should not be the main concern of the liturgy,… but I benefit by following along in the missal). I know that it is not necessary for those in the pew to hear the prayers, but I find it easier to enter into the prayer of the Mass when I know what verbal prayers are being offered by the priest in persona Christi. Does anyone else know what I am saying?
I look forward to learning more about the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite… and, hopefully, attending it if it is ever offered more readily in my area.

 

[mercygate]

What are the osuculations?

When the subdeacon hands the sacred vessels to the Celebrant, he kisses the priest’s hand. Happens two or three times – don’t pin me down, I don’t remember exactly when.

At the Episcopal Church of the Advent in Boston – where the liturgy is “Tridentine” but in English, they have quietly omitted the osculations as being “too precious.” But Episcopalians can do stuff like that. The TLM is FIXED IN STONE. If the rubrics say “osculations” then ya gotta do 'em!

 

[DJgang]

I’ll be honest mercygate…The Episcopal church that I attended was more high than the NO Mass at the Catholic church that I am attending now… I mean, we kneeled for communion… bow much more, wore more vestments and everything…

 

[DustinsDad]

When the subdeacon hands the sacred vessels to the Celebrant, he kisses the priest’s hand. Happens two or three times – don’t pin me down, I don’t remember exactly when.

At the Episcopal Church of the Advent in Boston – where the liturgy is “Tridentine” but in English, they have quietly omitted the osculations as being “too precious.” But Episcopalians can do stuff like that. The TLM is FIXED IN STONE. If the rubrics say “osculations” then ya gotta do 'em!

Oh ok…at every TLM I’ve ever been to this is the case. Anything handed to or taken from the priest is kissed as well as the hand itself. I think it really demonstrates the “in persona christi” essense of the priest offering mass, since it’s not the priest himself who’s being honored - but Christ who is acting in the priest. Guess it a little culture shock to folks nowadays - they must not make the connection.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad

 

[Hijikata]

Oh ok…at every TLM I’ve ever been to this is the case. Anything handed to or taken from the priest is kissed as well as the hand itself. I think it really demonstrates the “in persona christi” essense of the priest offering mass, since it’s not the priest himself who’s being honored - but Christ who is acting in the priest. Guess it a little culture shock to folks nowadays - they must not make the connection.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad

Exactly, I can’t believe someone said “Yuk” over that.

 

[DustinsDad]

…but I find it easier to enter into the prayer of the Mass when I know what verbal prayers are being offered by the priest in persona Christi. Does anyone else know what I am saying?.

I know exactly what you are saying. It comes with time - the more you assist at this mass, you’ll become more familiar with the timing of it all. This silently/softly spoken prayers throws alot of folks off at first. The key is to identify what “part” of the mass is taking place. Praying along with the priest word for word at the exact same time he’s praying each word isnt really necessary - it’s more of identifying what part of the mass is being offered, and uniting your offering of the prayers with the priest’s during that part - even if you aren’t word for word matching him precisely

Hope that makes sense

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad

 

[Jennifer_G]

Looks slightly irreverent, like he’s waving it in front of their faces or something.

I just got a mental image of a kid taunting another kid with candy by putting it in front of their face and pulling it away when you said that. I could tell he was making the Sign of the Cross with it, though.

I watched the one at 6pm (I recorded it at 8am, guess I’ll have to watch the one with the technical difficulties). I loved the chausibles or whatever they’re called. I liked the hymn at the end of the Mass - one of my favorites. (We sang it quite often at our Lutheran church.)

 

[AngelicDoctor]

I know exactly what you are saying. It comes with time - the more you assist at this mass, you’ll become more familiar with the timing of it all. This silently/softly spoken prayers throws alot of folks off at first. The key is to identify what “part” of the mass is taking place. Praying along with the priest word for word at the exact same time he’s praying each word isnt really necessary - it’s more of identifying what part of the mass is being offered, and uniting your offering of the prayers with the priest’s during that part - even if you aren’t word for word matching him precisely

Hope that makes sense

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad

This is a helpful explanation, DD, thanks!

 

[Chatter163]

I recorded the Mass on both DVD and VHS, and never saw any technical difficuties. Perhaps this was a problem with particular local cable systems, rather than EWTN itself?

 

[Chatter163]

Exactly, I can’t believe someone said “Yuk” over that.

Agreed. I also found it to be an immature reaction–and from married folks, no less. :tsktsk:

 

[aurora77]

I haven’t gotten to see it yet!! We were out Friday night while the DVR did its thing and I worked yesterday. Tonight after DH goes to bed, I’ll watch it.

Stupid question–I’ve never been to a TLM in my life. The only Latin I’ve heard during a NO Mass was during John Paul II’s funeral and a Mass I attended in St. Louis, when the priest used Latin for the consecration (loved that, btw, couldn’t say the responses, didn’t know the proper Latin, but it was still so cool!). Am I going to be able to follow along or will I get lost (I don’t have a missal for the TLM)? Is it really different from the structure of the NO, or similar enough that I’ll know what’s what. I mean, the consecration and reading are going to be clear to me, but what about the rest?

 

[Semper_Fi_1]

I wish I could tape it. EWTN here in Australia comes at $300, plus a satellite dish.

I think the asperges was omitted today. They went straight from the entrance procession to the Judica me.

EWTN is streamed online… no need for a sat dish unless you really wanted to splurge. All you need is broadband and Windows Media Player or Real Player. www.ewtn.com

 

[DustinsDad]

I haven’t gotten to see it yet!! We were out Friday night while the DVR did its thing and I worked yesterday. Tonight after DH goes to bed, I’ll watch it…Am I going to be able to follow along or will I get lost (I don’t have a missal for the TLM)? Is it really different from the structure of the NO, or similar enough that I’ll know what’s what. I mean, the consecration and reading are going to be clear to me, but what about the rest?

Print this out - ewtn.com/library/liturgy/9-14-07Mass.pdf - it’s the missal booklet for this mass, courtesy of EWTN. This will help. Just remember that some of these prayers are spoken silently by the priest while the choir sings.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad

 

[lak611]

I haven’t gotten to see it yet!! We were out Friday night while the DVR did its thing and I worked yesterday. Tonight after DH goes to bed, I’ll watch it.

Stupid question–I’ve never been to a TLM in my life. The only Latin I’ve heard during a NO Mass was during John Paul II’s funeral and a Mass I attended in St. Louis, when the priest used Latin for the consecration (loved that, btw, couldn’t say the responses, didn’t know the proper Latin, but it was still so cool!). Am I going to be able to follow along or will I get lost (I don’t have a missal for the TLM)? Is it really different from the structure of the NO, or similar enough that I’ll know what’s what. I mean, the consecration and reading are going to be clear to me, but what about the rest?

Here is a Missal that you can print out.

 

[aurora77]

Thanks! I should have thought to look online. I appreciate it!

 

[AJV]

We also was watching it on our computer, precioussss.

The first time I ever witnessed one. I now long to see one live. I only want to know why is the Missa de Angelis used? Is it the ‘default’ melody for Masses in Ordinary days, so to speak?

Because it, together with Credo III, is the one everyone knows.