Who is watching/ has watched the EWTN TLM?

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I watched it twice–at the original time and during the rebroadcast. Seeing Mother Angelica gave my heart hope. God bless her! The mass was so beautiful, magestic and reverent. How I wish we had it every day!
 
I watched it again last night, on my computer…Absolutely beautiful,…On some of these threads, There have been posters, who start off by saying, “not for me, but glad you guys have it again” and then they launch into subtle and not so subtle attacks.

This Mass is THEOCENTRIC,!! unambiguously so! I say to these “Moles” …“show me somethin better, and I’ll take it”

But like St. Paul, If an Angel were to come down from Heaven and preach to me, any other doctrine,other than the truths O f our Holy Catholic Faith, which are so clearly manifest. in this Mass. …I would not believe him.

And to the “moles” on here…enjoy the guitars…🙂
 
How come there weren’t any clowns blowing bubbles while juggling guitar-strumming liturgical dancers dressed up in hallowen costumes?? 🤷 🤷

Have these traditionalists got something against individual creative expression during Mass or something? Why can’t they make Mass fun, warm and fuzzy? 🤷

That was sacrasm, kids.

I watched a bit of it and the Agnus Dei was stunningly beautiful.

I get butterflies all day before a Low Mass, so when my wife and I can go to a Solemn Mass it is breathtaking. We are heading on down to the FSSP Sunday Mass in a few weeks from now and we are looking forward to it very much.
 
DustinsDad said:
On the solemn ceremonies of the Sacrifice of the Mass.

And whereas such is the nature of man, that, without external helps, he cannot easily be raised to the meditation of divine things; therefore has holy Mother Church instituted certain rites, to wit that certain things be pronounced in the mass in a low, and others in a louder, tone. She has likewise employed ceremonies, such as mystic benedictions, lights, incense, vestments, and many other things of this kind, derived from an apostolical discipline and tradition, whereby both the majesty of so great a sacrifice might be recommended, and the minds of the faithful be excited, by those visible signs of religion and piety, to the contemplation of those most sublime things which are hidden in this sacrifice.

Council of Trent, Session 22, Chapter V
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Great!
 
captaincoog said:
How come there weren’t any clowns blowing bubbles while juggling guitar-strumming liturgical dancers dressed up in hallowen costumes?? 🤷 🤷

Have these traditionalists got something against individual creative expression during Mass or something? Why can’t they make Mass fun, warm and fuzzy? 🤷
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I have just re-read this post of mine and would like to withdwraw the sentiment in it. I love the Holy Mass in either form and it was out of character for me to sink to this level. I do still much prefer the Latin Mass, but love the Ordinary Form said reverently also. It the time I wrote it I was feeling a bit childish in a silly way, and now looking at it again, I am ashamed of my self. Sorry if anyone took offence.
 
captaincoog said:
I have just re-read this post of mine and would like to withdwraw the sentiment in it. I love the Holy Mass in either form and it was out of character for me to sink to this level. I do still much prefer the Latin Mass, but love the Ordinary Form said reverently also. It the time I wrote it I was feeling a bit childish in a silly way, and now looking at it again, I am ashamed of my self. Sorry if anyone took offence.
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I commend you for this. When we see the Novus Ordo celebrated as it is on broadcasts from the Vatican, we can realize that nowhere do the rubrics require that we celebrate Mass like a bunch of jackasses. I believe that those of us who hope for wider acceptance of the TLM are very much harmed by its supporters who denigrate the Ordinary Form. It continues to make the TLM a bone of contention, and that is the LAST thing we need.

Thanks for rethinking this “out loud.”
 
I wasn’t at home on Friday! 😦

Is there still a way to watch the whole mass?
 
DustinsDad said:
Oh ok…at every TLM I’ve ever been to this is the case. Anything handed to or taken from the priest is kissed as well as the hand itself. I think it really demonstrates the “in persona christi” essense of the priest offering mass, since it’s not the priest himself who’s being honored - but Christ who is acting in the priest. Guess it a little culture shock to folks nowadays - they must not make the connection.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
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The thing is, there are people who lived through the times when the TLM was the normative Mass who don’t recall EVER seeing anyone kiss the hands constantly. So, in a way, it is culture shock even to them.
 
chicago said:
The thing is, there are people who lived through the times when the TLM was the normative Mass who don’t recall EVER seeing anyone kiss the hands constantly. So, in a way, it is culture shock even to them.
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Can’t really speak to that - I was born in 1969.

But I see it in this video from 1941, Our Lady of Sorrows in Chicago.

DustinsDad
 
🙂 I watched theTLM on Fri morning and it was so beautiful I thougt I had died and gone to heaven. Then that night I attended
a TLM in a nearby town.Iwas overwhelmed by the huge crowd. The church was SRO and people were outside and could only
come in for comunion. It did my heart good to see the little boys in their suits and the little girls in their veils. Everyone was very reverent.The Mass was awsome. I hope my parish will do this once in a while.The Pater Noster made me tear up.
Cecilia:thumbsup:
 
chicago said:
The thing is, there are people who lived through the times when the TLM was the normative Mass who don’t recall EVER seeing anyone kiss the hands constantly. So, in a way, it is culture shock even to them.
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That might be possible because they were only used to Low Masses or Sung Mass and this century Anglo rubricists figured out that laypeople were not obliged to the *oscula *. Or there may have been a contrary American custom, which though unrubrical may have attained the force of custom. Or they might be remembering 1964 onward when the *oscula *was directed to be omitted.

The FSSP will, I think perhaps naturally, have some ceremonial customs not widely seen in the USA before because they were founded in Europe.
 
Born in '55, so I have some rememberences of TLM. From what I recall, my parish in NJ did not celebrate the Solemn High Mass, or if we did, my family never attended one.

I remember my Dad talking about it, but I can’t recall attending one. The first one I ever saw was on Friday. All I can say is give me more!

Edit → ChristopherM, thank you for pointing me towards the audiosancto site.
 
AJV said:
That might be possible because they were only used to Low Masses or Sung Mass and this century Anglo rubricists figured out that laypeople were not obliged to the *oscula *. Or there may have been a contrary American custom, which though unrubrical may have attained the force of custom. Or they might be remembering 1964 onward when the *oscula *was directed to be omitted.
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The note about Solemn High Mass being much more rare in those days is important to underscore. Even when it was celebrated, there were those who would walk in and right back out as they didn’t want to be bothered by so much time and such extensive ritual. It was easier to attend another Mass, instead.

I have heard it suggested that certain more limited practices of the kisses occurred but not so extensive as was done at this Mass.

It may also be the case that the Fraternity and other groups which are rediscovering this Mass are more heavily influenced with particular personalities, interests, and individual remembrances of it’s leaders and underwriters.

Too, it could be that certain practices which some are finding as possible which simply were not commonly practiced at the time are being reintroduced by younger members unfamiliar with actual practice of the period who simply want to “do it all” whenever it can be or find it objectively worthy. Or these could even be pious devotional add ons which are extra rubrical.
The FSSP will, I think perhaps naturally, have some ceremonial customs not widely seen in the USA before because they were founded in Europe.
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This is an insightful intervention which, I think, likely accounts for some of the differences which we are witnessing.
 
I’m wanting to attend the Latin Mass again. The one on EWTN was so beautiful and reverent. I haven’t been for several years and want to buy a new Missal - does anyone have any suggestions where I can get one from?
I have heard that there are various types and some are better than others.
 
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