Who Lives - Who Dies?

[Traditional_Ang]

***WOW! I am crying as I write this. This is a beautiful story. Praise God for the courage of that man. You said he was a skeptical Jew. Did he ever convert/ become a “non-skeptical” Jew? ***

Momofone:

He never did. He got more sentimental and less sceptical as he grew older, ever married a Catholic, but he never came close.

May God richly bless you, Michael

 

[Traditional_Ang]

Hagia

Thank you for your kind words about David Levy. He died in Nov. of last year at the age of 87, and in many ways, he was more of an example than the Christian men that I knew.

In answer to you question, except in some institutions that are under assault in our society such as the Boy Scouts and the Catholic Church, almost nowhere, and it’s just that modern society that’s assaulting those institutions that’s produced fruit like the agreement in the Senate on Monday:

The people who negotiated this betrayal of trust were:

Lincoln Chaffee (R - Rhode Island)
141A RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING, WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2921
Web Form: chafee.senate.gov/webform.htm

Susan Collins (R - Maine)
461 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
Voice (202) 224-2523 Fax: (202) 224-2693
Web Form: collins.senate.gov/low/contactemail.htm

Mike DeWine (R - Ohio)
140 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-2315 Fax: (202) 224-6519
Web Form: dewine.senate.gov/

Lindsey Graham (R - South Carolina)
290 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5972
Web Form:lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contact
lgraham.senate.gov/index.cfm?mode=contactform

John McCain (R - Arizona)
241 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-2235 Fax: (202) 228-2862
Web Form: mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Contact.Offices
mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Contact.Home

Olympia Snowe (R - Maine)
154 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-5344 Fax: (202) 224-1946
E-mail: olympia@snowe.senate.gov
Web: snowe.senate.gov/

John Warner (R- Virginia)
25 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
(202) 224-2023 Fax: (202) 224-6295
Web Form: warner.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm

As you can see, five of the people on this list were on End Pro-Abortion Litmus Test Thread-List and vice versa, and Senator Lindsey Graham came out of no where. I believe we got the two whose names you don’t see on this list near the beginning of the campaign, and the 2 who added themselves to this list defected after the first 2 left.

If that’s true, waiting to “CALL THE QUESTION” past May 4 did us and our cause NO favors. That extra time simply allowed the supporters of Roe V. Wade another way to pull it off the firing line and out of danger.

Please understand, the seven people whose names you see above DID US AND THE UNBORN NO FAVORS. In fact, they may very well have saved ROE V. WADE for AT LEAST a GENERATION if NOT LONGER.

So, as we walk in front of clinics begging women in many states not to get late term ot partial birth Abortions, we can thank these men and women for leaving those avenues of Baby Slaughter open for women and their doctors who “choose to exercise” their rights to the procedures.

Please understand, the Democrats WILL FILIBUSTER the FIRST PRO-LIFE Supreme Court Justice whom President Bush picks to replace a PRO-ABORTION one who retires or dies, and they will be completely within their rights ACCORDING TO THE AGREEMENT!

That’s why I was so angry earlier.

The Republicans “Threw the Game” like the Chicago Black Sox of 1917 threw the World Series. At least the Black Sox got $50,000 from some Gambler, and at least Judas got 30 ounces of Silver.

What did the Republicans get for betraying us and God’s Little Ones?

Bupkas! That’s what they got!

Their contact information is above. Let them know your displeasure. Just try to be polite and don’t cuss the bums out. OK?

May God richly bless those who act to save God’s Little Ones. Michael

 

[Traditional_Ang]

cecelia:

For those born between the years 1946-1964 (The Baby Boomers) the future looks very ominous. Would it be too far-fetched to think that those born during those years are going to be the victim of “death with dignity?” Would it be ludicrous to think that even some on this site might be the victim of such a horrific end? Let’s face it, the tentacles of Liberalism are ensnaring every facet of society, and this aspect of this ideology believes that we individuals can choose when to die. It also does not understand the redemptive value of suffering. As a matter of fact, in its naivete it abhors suffering and seeks to eliminate it all cost, so this misplaces sense of compassion, ironically, results in the belief that one should be put out of one’s misery, similar to putting a dog to sleep.But such a decision intercepts God’s role as the State now comes to the aid of the person and decide who lives and who dies. Well, now life becomes expendable and the incentive to keep one help one get better is thwarted because of external determinants, e.g. too old, too sick, too burdensome, etc. And with 64 million Baby Boomers heading into middle age and beyond, many are going to be subject to the decisions of the State. This scenario reminds me of a herd of zebras running in all directions desparate to escape the deadly jaws of the lion. Suddenly, the old, the weak, the babies – the vulnerable --fall behind, and the lion quickly seizes its prey…and the others in the herd just keep running, never looking back to see what happened to a fellow member of the herd…Well…You better watch out “zebras” …you better watch out…Because the State will be there to seize you. only they call it “taking care of you” should you stumble and fall. And no one will be there to look back.

Cecilia:

It’s those of us who are near the end of that “boom”, and those of us who are already sick or disabled, who will have the most to worry about (Social Security will be going BK in the 2020’s).

You may want to look at the Grundegen University Hospital Protocols, recently adapted in Holland, for the means the Government and Private HMO Insurers would use to rid themselves and society of the poorest, the sickist and the costliest.

In the case of someone with a painful terminal illness, I imagine that it would be faily easy to get him to sin a RELEASE FORM authorizing a Lethal Injection simply by denying him necessary painkillers so that he becomes so miserable he’ll do anything for relief.

When I had a Craniatomomy to remove a brain tumor, I had spinal headaches for 5 days. Straight morphine would not kill the pain… I wasn’t in the Church then, and I just might have signed the form for some “Relief”.

It’s scary thinking, but we had better do it now, and as a Church prepare for it so that fellow Christians aren’t put in that situation! It may mean that richer Christians will need to learn the real purpose of money and the disobedience it represents when they fail to use it to help their fellow Christians during just those times!

Pray that the Lord returns before it comes to that, because I don’t believe the Church is ready for the type of sharing and sacrifice needed!

May God richly bless those who act to save His Little Ones. Michael

 

[HagiaSophia]

cecelia:

You better watch out “zebras” …you better watch out…Because the State will be there to seize you. only they call it “taking care of you” should you stumble and fall. And no one will be there to look back.

It is already in the works – the Schiavo case brought many of us into reading current statements from the medical ethicists and administrators – for me it was a chilling experience…we are heading in the direction of simply withholding nutrition from the old, the helpless and disposing of the disabled, the challenged as well as the aged. IMO if allowed to progress as it did up until the Schiavo case hit the headlines, we are about to have a holocaust which will be unparalleled. As one of its probable victims I don’t like it a bit.

 

[antiaphrodite]

Traditional Ang:

Hagia:

A Survivor of the Bataan Death March died not too long ago, his name was David Levy.
…

Michael

may God rest his soul.

 

[cecelia]

HagiaSophia:

It is already in the works – the Schiavo case brought many of us into reading current statements from the medical ethicists and administrators – for me it was a chilling experience…we are heading in the direction of simply withholding nutrition from the old, the helpless and disposing of the disabled, the challenged as well as the aged. IMO if allowed to progress as it did up until the Schiavo case hit the headlines, we are about to have a holocaust which will be unparalleled. As one of its probable victims I don’t like it a bit.

It was the Schiavo case that brought it home for me too. I was there at the Hospice and the realization that the State was sanctioning her killing because she was disabled,hence dispensable, was just chilling. I felt as though I were in a bad Science Fiction movie. But you’re right about the impending holocaust, but it won’t be unparalled though. It will parallel the holocaust that prevents many humans from being born. Those preborn humans at various stages of life, whether in the womb or embryos used for experimentation are the victims of the Birth Prevention Holocaust. Those already born now old, hence expendable, will be the victims of the Right to Die with Dignity Holocaust. Soon the latter will be joined by the disabled, the feeble, the retarded of all ages which will constitute the ever-expanding Right to Die Holocaust. It’s going to ghoulish in a couple of years, but the public will be fooled because we’ll be lead to think that it’s for our own good, that it’s compassionate, that “they” meaning those slated for the holocaust “wouldn’t want to live like that.” The lions are coming and they’re going to devour the zebras, but the zebras won’t know it because the lions are going to pretend to be their friends, but to paraphrase a wellknown adage, a lion can’t change its mane.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

And we follow the pied piper to our destruction:crying: