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Karin
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well I guess since the Americans are not doing it then the illegals can
…dont want to hear any complaints of “I cant get a job since the illegals took them all!”
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…dont want to hear any complaints of “I cant get a job since the illegals took them all!”
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Jeffrey
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I didn’t even give ya the whole story yet.
Anyways… nope wasn’t his fault.
Still trying to blame the victims and not the criminals. :tsktsk:
Anyways… nope wasn’t his fault.
Still trying to blame the victims and not the criminals. :tsktsk:
Really…so your eldest had no role what so ever in protecting your wifes SS# that was entrusted to him?
Typical…dont take responsibility for your actions!
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Karin
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That is ok dont want the whole story…
As to blaming the victims … yes, if they have not been responsible and allowed people to steal identities.:tsktsk:
Also Jeffrey I never said that the criminal was not to blame…scroll back and you will see in fact that I did say what they did was wrong
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Jeffrey
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He is not to blame… but you wouldn’t know that… you just assumed he did something neglegent. :tsktsk:
Later.
Later.
That is ok dont want the whole story…
As to blaming the victims … yes, if they have not been responsible and allowed people to steal identities.:tsktsk:
Also Jeffrey I never said that the criminal was not to blame…scroll back and you will see in fact that I did say what they did was wrong
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decn2b
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Please tell me you have never been to a farm.
As someone who has lived in Americas largest Farm state all my life I must assure you.
It only takes One person to milk and entire herd of Cows, It has been that way for about…say…40 years! I just helped my neighbor harvest 600 acres of beans and corn. He ran the combine and I ran the Hauler…again it only took two of us. And cotton pickers have been around since the early part of Last century Granted they haven’t been used solely for around 60 years
I wouldn’t let an immigrant come near my combine. They would either get killed or damage it and at $300,000 its just somthing I don’t see happening. Besides with the help of a freind or my wife I can take the entire crop out for free by doing it myself…and pass the savings on to YOU the consumer.
I do get your point but you need to find a more should I say…in touch with modern times argument.
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Karin
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Jeffrey…
:tsktsk: you really need to READ the post and not just skim it
I did not assume anything…I went with the facts you gave, it was your option not to give all of the facts and you only noted that fact at the end
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Anduril11623
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There’s some things which needs to be kept in mind when discussing the loss of jobs to illegals.
First off, wages are generally geared to the availability of workers able to do the job. Essentially, if it’s a difficult, technical field such as computer programming, the pool of people with both the aptitude and willingness to do it are going to be small. While lower-wage jobs are difficult physically, more people are able to do them. This is turn means employers have to pay less to fill positions.
Second, women entering the workforce en masse after World War 2 have had a far more drastic effect on wages and working conditions than has an influx of illegal immigants.
Third, the rise in consumption by native Americans (those of us who were born here!) has affected actual available wages, buying power, etc. No one saves, so what they do make if oten already accounted for to be paid in bills or interest.
Fourth, our own national government has created mountains of fiscal waste, as well as regulations which have to be complied with by employers. If someone’s not on the books, then there’s no need to spend money on these regulations.
No, I’m not thrilled at the idea of scads of people crossing the border and creating non-assimilated cultural pockets (although, see my other post on that subject), but there is a certain amount of people bringing bad fortune on themselves and wanting to blame others for their mistakes or blame the wrong people.
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First off, wages are generally geared to the availability of workers able to do the job. Essentially, if it’s a difficult, technical field such as computer programming, the pool of people with both the aptitude and willingness to do it are going to be small. While lower-wage jobs are difficult physically, more people are able to do them. This is turn means employers have to pay less to fill positions.
Second, women entering the workforce en masse after World War 2 have had a far more drastic effect on wages and working conditions than has an influx of illegal immigants.
Third, the rise in consumption by native Americans (those of us who were born here!) has affected actual available wages, buying power, etc. No one saves, so what they do make if oten already accounted for to be paid in bills or interest.
Fourth, our own national government has created mountains of fiscal waste, as well as regulations which have to be complied with by employers. If someone’s not on the books, then there’s no need to spend money on these regulations.
No, I’m not thrilled at the idea of scads of people crossing the border and creating non-assimilated cultural pockets (although, see my other post on that subject), but there is a certain amount of people bringing bad fortune on themselves and wanting to blame others for their mistakes or blame the wrong people.
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Texas_Roofer
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I would like to back Karin on this one; I did not assume he did anything illegal either. But the story seams do have logical problems as displayed. Please see the statement "Since they were here illegally… yep… all their fault" This is the statement of assumption. This statement did not come from her nor I. The statement also has logical problems as displayed.
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Jeffrey
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Ok… here goes… the insurance card was on him at all times… his wallet was on him at all times. The only place it left his sight( insurance card ) was when he had to go to the hospital and had to show it to the hospital personnel. It went right back in his wallet.
A few weeks we were notified about my wifes SS#.
So how was he neglagent?
A few weeks we were notified about my wifes SS#.
So how was he neglagent?
Jeffrey…
:tsktsk: you really need to READ the post and not just skim it
I did not assume anything…I went with the facts you gave, it was your option not to give all of the facts and you only noted that fact at the end
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Karin
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So where was the social security card in al of this? I mean you did state that they stole and used your wifes SS#. Was the SS# on the insurance card being uised as an ID# or something? If that is the case I would suggest that you contact your insurance carrier and see if they can use a random number for your insurance card like most insurance carriers do now adays.
If that is the case than perhaps one of the workers in the intake area or billing area sold the # to illegals??? Otherwise how would the llegals of gotten hold of the card…I am sure that the hospital would never employe illegals.
By the way I do not carry my SS card with me at all. I have memorized the number so I can keep mine locked in my safe…
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Jeffrey
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They were here illegally… so yes… its thier fault. They are the criminals.
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Karin
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And how did they get the number???
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Jeffrey
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Jeffrey
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Stolen.
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Texas_Roofer
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And the logic is you have to show an insurance card to “cleaning motel rooms” ?
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Karin
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So someone at the hosptial stole the number and gave it to the illegals?
But why blame the person that actually stole the #…it is so much easier to blame the illegals
!!!
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Karin
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Texas Roofer…his son went to the hosptial wher ehe had to show the card and that is how it was stolen.
Didnt you know that illegals work in hosptials too
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Jeffrey
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Try to keep up.
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Jeffrey
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Save it…
The reason there is a demand for stolen SS#'s… is the illegals need’em to get jobs.
The reason there is a demand for stolen SS#'s… is the illegals need’em to get jobs.
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Karin
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while Texas Roofer tries to keep up I am still trying to follow your logic…something does not add up
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