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He established. as you can see is a link. Please open the link and give me your understanding of the link. Thankssteve-b:
I should contest that Eucharistic unity through the dyptichs and concelebrations is in anyway “squishy”. The Eucharist as far as I know is the literal Body and Blood of Christ in the beliefs of both churches. And we both know Christ’s Body cannot be divided unless we hold unto some Christological heresy.Not just a squishy unity but perfect unity to what He established. Unity with Peter and those in complete union with him.
Much of what you describe is handled in canon law. One might disagree with a law, but they lawfully can’t go against the laws of the Church. If something is not a doctrine / dogma, one can have their personal viewsAdmitted, the ecclessiastical administration of the Eastern Orthodox is a mess. But is it any worse than the situation in the Roman Catholic Church; where the bishops can declare themselves united with the Pope in Rome but be in contention with one another on Divorce and Remarriage, Death Penalty, and many more? I don’t want to leave out from this discussion the divide between the Traditionalists, Conservatives, and Liberals (sometimes, even the contention about papal powers between the Roman rite Catholics and those in the Eastern Church in communion with Rome).
Go back to the beginning in Church history. What name in writing, was the Church called?Let me grant that there are Church Fathers for the Filioque and that Saints Jerome and Bede believe in the universal supremacy of the pope in Rome. But there are also those who do not hold to these.
These have led me in the state of limbo concerning which Church is the true continuation of what Jesus had started.
Acts 9:31, from the Greek study bible, Ἡ μὲν οὖν ἐκκλησία καθ’ ὅλης τῆς
Translation
ἐκκλησία = church ,
καθ’ = according to ,
ὅλης = whole / all / complete / universal ,
τῆς = the ,
= the Kataholos Church = the Catholic Church.
ECF’s writings using Catholic Church(excerpted for space)
Ignatius of Antioch, ordained Bishop by the apostles, ~69 a.d. That is before the book of Acts is written. Ignatius a direct disciple of St John the apostle. Ignatius wrote 6 letters to the Church in 6 locations. In his writings, He uses Christian in (ch 2) and Catholic Church in (ch 8) in his Epistle to the Smyrnæans
Note: He writes, schismatics won’t be going to heaven, Epistle to the Philadelphians (ch 3)
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