Who told the TRUTH- God ...or Satan?

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Gen 3:3- God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” 4- But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not die."

Churchianity and the world religions ALL teach we don’t die- but float off as ‘immortal souls’…
 
Churchianity? Did you come here to insult the Body of Christ? Friend, if you are following the JWs, you have been deceived. You will die, and you will be judged just like the rest of us.
 
Before the fall man was not destined to die physically or spiritually. By taking the fruit we sinned, which brought death into the world.
 
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Gen 3:3- God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” 4- But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not die."

Churchianity and the world religions ALL teach we don’t die- but float off as ‘immortal souls’…
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What is your point here and are you part of this teaching of churchianity?

Peace!!!
 
Sounds like the corpsmen needs to escort you down to sickbay.
 
To the extent that man doesn’t know and is spiritually separated from God he is dead, whether existing or not.
 
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Gen 3:3- God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” 4- But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not die."

Churchianity and the world religions ALL teach we don’t die- but float off as ‘immortal souls’…
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No. We don’t teach that people don’t die. We teach that people do die, but that there is a life after death.
Our souls survive the experience of death.

As I said once to a skeptical friend: yes, we’re going to live forever, but you gotta die first.

I gather from the scare quotes around the words ‘immortal souls’ that you’re a skeptic yourself.

Edit: I didn’t notice at first you said ‘churchianity’ rather than Christianity. So a skeptic and not friendly. This thread could get interesting.
 
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The eating of the fruit was, for Adam and Eve, a spiritual death - a mortal sin, which took away the life of grace from their souls. Furthermore, with the fall, their bodies now suffered the results of their sin, and would later experience physical death.

So yes, the phrase “lest you die” is quite accurate. Just because our souls are immortal doesn’t mean we don’t experience death. Death is the gateway between this life and eternal life - or Hell, should you reject God’s grace.
 
“The Father and I are one.” Jesus
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas

Enough said!
 
There are no divisions among Catholics concerning the truth of the divinity of Christ and the Trinity. Go peddle your Watchtowers somewhere else.
 
What makes you so sure that you are right, and we are wrong? How long have the Jehovah Witnesses existed and who established them?

When I was young lo these many decades ago, we had a very dear friend who was a Jehovah Witness; an older gentleman who was probably one of the finest persons one could ever hope to meet. One of the most admirable points about him was that he had an innate courtesy and respect for all people, no matter what their beliefs were. I surely wish there were more people like him around today.
 
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So dumb. The Devil is the father of lies; everything IT says is untruthful.
You shall not die. Is a lie; therefore it means, you Will die!
Am I getting this right?

Yes and no: He DID say “You shall not die”, knowing she and Adam WOULD if they rebelled.
And the ‘IMMORTAL soul’ Dogma means the same thing!
 
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“The Father and I are one.” Jesus
“My Lord and my God!” Thomas

Enough said!

No- NOT enough.
““I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us!” - John 17: 20, 21

So, they are no more God than Jesus is.

“My Lord and my God!” Thomas
JUST before appearing to Thomas, Jesus told Mary Magdalene-
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to MY God and your God!”- John 20:17

NO apostle believed not taught Jesus was the God he and they served- so Thomas was praising both his Savior and the One (not “Three”) that resurrected him.
 
What part of “IMMORTAL” don’t you or your parrot don’t understand?
 
We do die, our soul is immortal. What’s so hard about that? Check out the local mortuary if you don’t believe it.
 
“We do die, our soul is immortal. What’s so hard about that?”
Thus we DON’T die- only the body the 'immortal soul’ is in does.
Age-old Spin.

Thus dying and resurrection is merely the ‘immortal soul’ floating in and out of the body, according to CHURCHianity.

As antichristian as a teaching can get.
 
So you’re deliberately using a obscure definition of death to refute a fact that is simple enough for any goldfish owning 1st grader to understand. That’s one way to try to win an argument.
 
An “obscure” definition?
Unlike your “living”?

What definition did GOD use when he told Adam and Eve they would die- even SPELLING IT OUT?
“In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, until thou return to the ground: for out of it wast thou taken. For dust thou art; and unto dust shalt thou return.”- Gen 3:19, RSV

Did he MEAN to say~ “In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, until thou come up to Heaven, or go to Hellfire forever!”?
 
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