Who was the Queen of Heaven before the Virgin Mary?

[Robert_Sock]

Whoever heard of a King without a Queen?

It was for your sins you were sold,
for your rebellions your mother was dismissed.
-Isaiah 50:1

Motherless children have a hard time when mother is dead Lord
Motherless children have a hard time when mother is dead Lord
They don’t have anywhere to go, wondering around from door to door
Nobody treats you like a mother will when your mother is dead Lord

Father will do best the can when your mother is dead Lord
Father will do best the can when your mother is dead Lord
Father will do best the can, so many things a father can’t understand
Nobody treats you like a mother will when your mother is dead Lord

Sister will do the best she can when your mother is dead Lord
Sister will do the best she can when your mother is dead Lord
Sister will do the best she can, so many things a sister can’t understand

Nobody treats you like a mother will when your mother is dead
When your mother is dead, when your mother is dead
When your mother is dead Lord, when your mother is dead
Mother is dead, mother is dead, mother is dead
-Eric Clapton

 

[Mintaka]

Isaiah consistently talks about Israel as God’s wife, “the wife of my youth,” the “mother” of the Israelites, and “daughter Zion.” Israel worshipping other gods is called “infidelity” or compared with prostitution.

You will see this image in many of the prophets. Hosea of course married a prostitute when commanded by God, as a graphic image of Israel’s bad relationship with God and God’s constant love for her, even when Israel tried to make Him angry. But you’ll also see it in Jeremiah (where Israel is a “provoking woman”) and many others.

Mary as the true gebirah of Heaven, and the Church as Christ’s Bride, are both closely related to this prophetic image of Israel as wife and mother. They fulfill the prophecy in a perfect way which Israel foreshadowed, and in which Israel shares.

 

[Contrarian]

The “Queen of Heaven” mentioned in Jeremiah was probably the goddess Astarte. The Old Testament is full of parallels to ancient Ugarit and Canaanite mythology since the earliest Israelites were in fact Canaanites. books.google.com/books?id=y-gfwlltlRwC&pg=PA131&vq=Queen+of+heaven&output=html_text&source=gbs_search_r&cad=1

 

[davidv]

The “Queen of Heaven” mentioned in Jeremiah was probably the goddess Astarte. The Old Testament is full of parallels to ancient Ugarit and Canaanite mythology since the earliest Israelites were in fact Canaanites. books.google.com/books?id=y-gfwlltlRwC&pg=PA131&vq=Queen+of+heaven&output=html_text&source=gbs_search_r&cad=1

Since Jeremiah was a monotheist, how could he be referring to another god?

 

[808Catholic]

Our Blessed Mother is the only Queen of Heaven. Please review the CCC on this topic.

 

[twf]

Since Jeremiah was a monotheist, how could he be referring to another god?

The Prophet Jeremiah condemns the worship of a false goddess who was called the “queen of heaven”. Of course, in the New Covenant, Our Lady, through and in Christ, is the one true Queen of Heaven.

 

[Robert_Sock]

Our Blessed Mother is the only Queen of Heaven. Please review the CCC on this topic.

So who was Queen before the Virgin Mary?

 

[808Catholic]

So who was Queen before the Virgin Mary?

There was no Queen before Mary was crowned the Queen of Heaven.

 

[JerryZ]

If you see the parallel the queen is the MOTHER of the King. NOT the wife.

Who is the King of Heaven, what name bends every knee in Heaven?

His Mother is the Queen of Heaven.

Before the King was born how could there be a Queen?

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[Robert_Sock]

If you see the parallel the queen is the MOTHER of the King. NOT the wife.

Who is the King of Heaven, what name bends every knee in Heaven?

His Mother is the Queen of Heaven.

Before the King was born how could there be a Queen?

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Thanks for that info!

The feminine attributes of the Godhead are certainly recognized by Jewish Mystics.

 

[Nelka]

If you see the parallel the queen is the MOTHER of the King. NOT the wife.

Who is the King of Heaven, what name bends every knee in Heaven?

His Mother is the Queen of Heaven.

Before the King was born how could there be a Queen?

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[meltzerboy]

Thanks for that info!

The feminine attributes of the Godhead are certainly recognized by Jewish Mystics.

Yes, the Shekinah, Which is also part of Christian and Muslim theology. The Shekinah–the glory, presence, and light of G-d–is in addition associated with the Sabbath Bride in Judaism.

 

[Contrarian]

Since Jeremiah was a monotheist, how could he be referring to another god?

Jeremiah could still be a monotheist while referring to the gods of the neighbors. Some Israelites may have also been “henotheists” where they worshiped one God but did not deny the existence of other deities. Full blown monotheism didn’t emerge until the Babylonian Exile. The original god of Israel was El - the head Canaanite deity. That’s why it’s spelled Isra-El meaning “El rules” or “El will rule.” The term “el” only later became a generic term for God but originally was used as a proper name for the Canaanite deity.

books.google.com/books?id=1yM3AuBh4AsC&lpg=PA129&vq=jeremiah&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q&f=false

books.google.com/books?id=S1tQ5Larst0C&lpg=PP1&pg=PA151#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

[Usagi]

God is, of course, the Monarch of Heaven (and everything else). He is also neither male nor female in the strict sense, though He primarily identifies as masculine in interactions with us. So presumably He could be considered both King and Queen.

Mary is the only biologically-female human who qualifies as Queen (Mother) of Heaven, though.

This probably relates to Jesus being both King of Everything by virtue of being God, and also declared King of Everything as a biologically-male human, following the Incarnation and Ascension.

Usagi