Who's Going to Pay the Bills?: Purpose-Driven Coronavirus Business Shutdowns Cause Economic Catastrophe

[phil3]

You can always thrown wooden shoes at the robots.

 

[HarryStotle]

I do not claim that each and every one of those 200,000+ died solely because of DJT’s incompetence, but I do believe that the number is significantly higher than it otherwise could have been for that very reason. So yes, at least as much blood on his hands as he claimed was on Obama’s, and likely much more.

It seems to be the same players that hyped Russian collusion, the impeachment fiasco, extending lockdown measures, promoting rioting and looting in the streets, mob justice vis a vis police action, defunding the police, decimating small businesses, socialism (free health care, free college tuition, etc.), the end of innocent until proven guilty, stacking the Supreme Court, getting rid of the electoral college, and the end of free speech, that are now pushing this “200, 000+ dead as the result of what Trump did or said” despite that their own suggestions back then would have been provably worse. Let’s just ignore the benefit of hindsight and castigate without cause because our cause justifies any means we care to impose.

What is next? Arresting and tasering parents just for watching their child’s football game without a mask?

Oh, wait…

Mother Tasered, Arrested at Son’s Game for Not Wearing a Mask Outside, by Cops Not Properly Wearing Masks - Activist Post

Let’s just say and do whatever cuz, you know, we are all going to die and anything we do is therefore justified.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

there was nothing to figure out, NY fully knew the essentials that elder facilities were high risk and putting Covid positive people in these homes would put the healthy at great risk.

What NY did not fully know was whether the hospital rooms would fill up if they did not discharge patients who were stable. Yes, they knew there was a risk sending them to nursing homes, but there was a risk in not sending them to nursing homes to - the risk that new patients might have to be turned away. It turned out that the saturation point at the hospitals was not reached, but that is easy to see only with hindsight.

 

[jeannetherese]

What NY did know is that viruses spread.
Sending stable but infectious people into nursing homes is a recipe for spreading the virus in the nursing home.

 

[HarryStotle]

Theo520:

there was nothing to figure out, NY fully knew the essentials that elder facilities were high risk and putting Covid positive people in these homes would put the healthy at great risk.

What NY did not fully know was whether the hospital rooms would fill up if they did not discharge patients who were stable. Yes, they knew there was a risk sending them to nursing homes, but there was a risk in not sending them to nursing homes to - the risk that new patients might have to be turned away. It turned out that the saturation point at the hospitals was not reached, but that is easy to see only with hindsight.

Right. Trump is responsible for killing 200 000 , according to Joe Biden, because he should have done something he didn’t - which is never specified.

But for Cuomo and other Dem governors, they are excused because “only with hindsight” could they have known.

Standards applied, albiet unequally. Puzzling that, for an ideological bent that prides itself on equality and equal treatment.

 

[HarryStotle]

Theo520:

there was nothing to figure out, NY fully knew the essentials that elder facilities were high risk and putting Covid positive people in these homes would put the healthy at great risk.

What NY did not fully know was whether the hospital rooms would fill up if they did not discharge patients who were stable. Yes, they knew there was a risk sending them to nursing homes, but there was a risk in not sending them to nursing homes to - the risk that new patients might have to be turned away. It turned out that the saturation point at the hospitals was not reached, but that is easy to see only with hindsight.

I guess that is what happens when we trust the expert “scientist” modellers like Neil Ferguson at the Imperial College whose prognostications were orders of magnitude off.

Perhaps a lesson for the climate alarmists to take climate models with just a hint of skepticism before we throw fossil fuels overboard along with babies and cows?

 

[Theo520]

What NY did not fully know was whether the hospital rooms would fill up if they did not discharge patients who were stable.

That’s not a logical analysis. ICU beds were the only precious commodity, hospitals had loads of non-ICU beds and many had set up wings dedicated to COVID care. I suspect if the patient wasn’t earning ICU $$$, they preferred to force a discharge to a nursing home rather than keep them another week under nurses supervision.

 

[stoplooklisten]

I suspect if the patient wasn’t earning ICU $$$, they preferred to force a discharge to a nursing home rather than keep them another week under nurses supervision.

We all can be cynical but try a little charity. Not all cases and case workers are the same.

 

[jeannetherese]

What NY did know is that viruses spread.
Sending stable but infectious people into nursing homes is a recipe for spreading the virus in the nursing home.
One might wonder if the elderly were viewed as less important than creating or keeping a supply of empty beds by those making the decisions. But then, there was that available hospital ship with lots of empty beds and the pop-up Covid hospital…surely there were enough empty beds available?

 

[Theo520]

We all can be cynical but try a little charity. Not all cases and case workers are the same.

Why didn’t NY use the emergency hospitals they erected for COVID patients, they even had a hospital ship that would have been perfect for convalescence, for patients that didn’t need acute care.

That hospital decisions are driven by $ is being honest, not cynical.

 

[1cthlctrth]

Here’s another weapon readers could use against revisionist historians:

Timeline Shows Trump, and Not Democrats, Was on Top of Coronavirus Response - Frank Report

By Peronneau Vandehey

Here’s the real timeline of what happened (all of this BEFORE we had even one death in the US):

January​

6​

CDC issues travel advisory for Wuhan.

11​

CDC tweets about corona related “pneumonia outbreak in China”

14​

WHO tweets that there is no evidence of human to human transmission.

17​

CDC started doing health screenings at 3 airports of travelers from China.

21​

first case in US for someone who traveled directly from Wuhan.

23​

WHO again says no human to human transmission outside of China.

27​

WHO raises alert level but is still saying China has it contained.

28​

CDC states “While CDC considers covid a serious situation and is taking preparedness measures, the immediate risk in the US is considered low.”

29​

White House announces Coronavirus Task Force created. Note – this is despite the WHO downplaying the threat!

31​

Trump bans travel from China.

Media and multiple Democrats slam his decision calling it racist/xenophobic:

• “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia — hysterical xenophobia — and fearmongering,” said Democrat Joe Biden the day after the travel restrictions were imposed.
• CNN ran a story warning that “the US coronavirus travel ban could backfire” and have the effect of “stigmatizing countries and ethnicities.”
• The Chinese Communist Party’s official mouthpiece, the People’s Daily, called the ban “racist.”
• World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus warned thr travel ban it would increase “fear and stigma, with little public health benefit.”

February​

5​

Trump acquitted (impeachment).

7​

White House’s Coronavirus Task Force gives press briefing.

9​

White House Coronavirus Task Force meets with all governors regarding virus.

12​

CDC waiting for approval from Chinese for CDC team to travel to China.

18​

HHS announces partnership to develop vaccine.

21​

Italy identifies its very first case in their country.

21​

CDC tweets that it is working with States for preparedness.

24​

Trump sent letter to Congress asking for $25 billion for virus effort.

Nancy Pelosi made a stop in Chinatown and encouraged people to “please come and visit and enjoy Chinatown.”
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25​

There is still no reported community spread in the US!!! (Per CDC tweet.)

27​

First community transmission in US.

27​

Trump appoints Pence to coordinate efforts.

29​

FIRST reported Covid19 death in US.

As late as March 24, Democrat NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio was recommending everyone ignore the coronavirus threat. NYC became the epicenter of the spread of coronavirus.

All of this happened BEFORE the 1st death in US.

There were many more actions in between, I just took some highlights.

 

[toddy]

Thanks for posting this great info.
I think Pdt Trump’s decision banning on travel from China was absolutely right. CCP hide all info to the world about the danger of virus transmission from asymptomatic and presymptomatic infected.

Virus is very tiny, very light weight, so logically they can float in the air for hours and travel around. They are airborne transmission very easy. You must look by a microscope to see aerosol travel to understand.

Many businesses did not provide frequent disinfection and air purifying and so their places are constantly contaminated [28 days] for the virus transmission.

So after closing activities for a while after 28 days, virus die out gradually and the infected cases drop significantly. They then open business again and new same cycle of transmission start again and again.

Now the second wave of new cycle of out breaks is coming in the cold weather.