Whose side are you on? Satans or god?

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We are currently residing in satans kingdom. This world is ruled by satan. The devils doctrines (evolution, natural selection and more to come) are being taught and accepted, by the world because it is the truth, not of gods kingdom - But of this world. It is the truth of this world, satans world.

People often find it hard to grasp the concept of what I’m saying here. I’m saying that, although the teaching of evoultion (which lays the foundation for many other evils, eugenics) is the truth of this world (there is evidence) but would that be incompatible with gods kingdom, would god be happy with a dog eat dog society, where only the ‘fittest’ survive? The answer is no, because everything jesus taught refuted that.

Hold onto this world if you will yb taking the easy road and accepting the devils teaching, or reject this teaching and enter the kingdom of heaven. It’s up to you. This is a time of testing, a real difficult testing of faith. As jesus said it would be “many will be mislead by many”. These are the end times, right now and the heat is on.

Do you reject the teaching of man (inspired by satan)? Or accept the teaching of god of the other world?

Make your choice.

Matthew 24:5 “For many will come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and will mislead many.”

Matthew 24:11 “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.”
 
localghost said:
We are currently residing in satans kingdom. This world is ruled by satan. The devils doctrines (evolution, natural selection and more to come) are being taught and accepted, by the world because it is the truth, not of gods kingdom - But of this world. It is the truth of this world, satans world.

People often find it hard to grasp the concept of what I’m saying here. I’m saying that, although the teaching of evoultion (which lays the foundation for many other evils, eugenics) is the truth of this world (there is evidence) but would that be incompatible with gods kingdom, would god be happy with a dog eat dog society, where only the ‘fittest’ survive? The answer is no, because everything jesus taught refuted that.

Hold onto this world if you will yb taking the easy road and accepting the devils teaching, or reject this teaching and enter the kingdom of heaven. It’s up to you. This is a time of testing, a real difficult testing of faith. As jesus said it would be “many will be mislead by many”. These are the end times, right now and the heat is on.

Do you reject the teaching of man (inspired by satan)? Or accept the teaching of god of the other world?

Make your choice.

Matthew 24:5 “For many will come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and will mislead many.”

Matthew 24:11 “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.”
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Not possible, Christ by his death and resurrection defeated evil. It has no power over us unless we allow it. Our Sin.
Peace,
FAB
 
The refusal to accept God’s mercy and love is what will condemn a person to hell, not a belief in the biological process of evolution. I think you are placing too much emphasis on things that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of. If you are unsure about a topic or issue just start a thread about it; you will probably get more information than you ever wanted to know!
 
localghost said:
People often find it hard to grasp the concept of what I’m saying here. I’m saying that, although the teaching of evoultion (which lays the foundation for many other evils, eugenics) is the truth of this world (there is evidence) but would that be incompatible with gods kingdom, would god be happy with a dog eat dog society, where only the ‘fittest’ survive? The answer is no, because everything jesus taught refuted that.
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You don’t seem to have a clear grasp of evolutionary theory. Technically speaking it has nothing to do with morality. The “natural law” of survival of the fittest is simply an observation and not a moral imperative. Its akin to saying, “I’ve noticed that Penicillin destroys certain bacteria.” In a similiar way, “survival of the fittest” is simply an explanation for how various life forms passed on their traits. It is not a moral judgment upon those traits.

Now there are indeed Darwinists who would speak of evolutionary morality but they are very few and what they actually say would surprise you. They would postulate that many of Jesus’ teachings are actually advantageous to human survival as a species. A “dog eat dog world” would actually destroy the human race and thus only those with community minded traits would survive.
 
I happen to agree that Darwinism is not a science, but a fanatical religion. After reading what constitutes their ‘scientific evidence,’ I am appalled that so many accept its false teachings without even bothering to look into the source.

And yes, it can be used as a basis for arguing eugenics.
 
I am ruled by God.
I live in this world.
Satan has no power over me, Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.

You say “Do you reject the teachings of man?”

No. Do you reject the theory of gravity??? When you drop a pencil to the floor, what makes it fall?
You’re statement is rediculuous. You rely on many things in your daily life is because of human invention and thought.

You’re comparing apples to oranges when you try to compare this world to heaven. You ask would God be happy w/ survival of the fittest?
I would first ask, would God be happy with abortion?

There are many things that God would not be happy about, I think we should work on the most important ones first.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
I happen to agree that Darwinism is not a science, but a fanatical religion.
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Its important to remember that anything can become a “fanatical religion.”
And yes, it can be used as a basis for arguing eugenics.
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Not really. To argue which traits are better than others is not something that “Darwinism” can actually say. And without mutations a species is eventually doomed. Eugenics would have humans and not nature to isolate traits and would eliminate others. But this would dangerously “inbreed” the human race to the point that something as simple as a new strain of the flu could wipe us out.
So eugenics would logically work against evolutionary theory.

Eugenics is a philosophy that can use science or religion as its so-called basis. The “white power” movements tend to take creationist views but still argue for eugenics.
 
People really need to drop this “Darwinism is a tool of the Devil” nonsense. The Church allows its members to believe in evolution. Many of the Church Fathers interpreted the Book of Genesis as an allegory. If you think that this implies some sort of heresy, then you are contradicting Matthew 16:18-19.
 
Science does not refute God.

When you see how all the systems of the human body work in harmony with each other, you can tell there is a Creator involved.
When you look at the atomic structure of all living things and that it somehow all comes together to create something beautiful, you see God’s handiwork.

Darwinism is an attempt to put together God’s work. I don’t see how it would go against the teachings of the bible at all.

I would focus your energy on the real evil in the world.
 
We are currently residing in satans kingdom. This world is ruled by satan.
**** W * R * O * N * G * !!!***

Jesus said just before His Ascension, “ALL POWER is given unto ME in heaven and on earth.”

So where did you get your ideas about living in Satan’s kingdom, or that he rules the world?

What Jesus Himself said refutes your words.

Next, the proper Darwinian phrase is “survival of the FIT,” not “fittest.” This is the popular misquote and misperception of what he actually said.

When you think about them, you’ll see they actually imply different things.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
I happen to agree that Darwinism is not a science, but a fanatical religion. After reading what constitutes their ‘scientific evidence,’ I am appalled that so many accept its false teachings without even bothering to look into the source.
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I quite agree with you on that. Michael Cremo’s books make more sense to me in many ways.
 
EphelDuath said:
People really need to drop this “Darwinism is a tool of the Devil” nonsense. The Church allows its members to believe in evolution. Many of the Church Fathers interpreted the Book of Genesis as an allegory. If you think that this implies some sort of heresy, then you are contradicting Matthew 16:18-19.
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They key word is ALLOWS. But the science behind it is still junk.
 
If the Universe was made in seven days, to repudiate evolutionists, you could say: "How long is one of God’s days, do you think?"

He has eternity to play with and, from memory, the sun and the earth which mark our human 24-hour days weren’t made until well in to God’s ‘week’.

I even read something on a news website that said that the story of Genesis describes how the universe was made, sequentially e.g. the waters came first, then the dry land.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
They key word is ALLOWS. But the science behind it is still junk.
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Based on who? The 99.99% of the scientists in the world that accept the overwhelming amount of evidence for biological macroevolution, or the .01% minority of graduates from fundamentalist universities that refuse to publish their works in actual scientific journals because they’d be torn apart, and instead write popular books to mislead the general public who have little to no scientific knowledge?
 
EphelDuath said:
Based on who? The 99.99% of the scientists in the world that accept the overwhelming amount of evidence for biological macroevolution, or the .01% minority of graduates from fundamentalist universities that refuse to publish their works in actual scientific journals because they’d be torn apart, and instead write popular books to mislead the general public who have little to no scientific knowledge?
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Grace and Peace,

There actually is ‘no evidence’ for biological ‘macro’-evolution. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence for biological ‘micro’-evolution. There is a great amount of rationale for one to presume that ‘macro’-evolution is valid but there exists no scientific proof of it.
 
Micro evolution does occur.

Evolutionists are wrong on two things:

that it can become “macro” (in that a species changes completely)

and that it takes “millions of years.”​

Evolution does happen, but within certain “boundaries.” Ever hear of dog breeding?
Dog breeding is evolution, and it does not take eons of time to accomplish.

Evolution is true (to a degree).

However, a dog didn’t evolve from a single-celled organism that magically formed out of non-living materials 4 billions years ago.​

Think of it like this:

you have five different species, each locked within its own fenced-in area. Now, even though these animals are able to move within the set parameters, they are unable to go beyond it.
 
chrisb said:
There actually is ‘no evidence’ for biological ‘macro’-evolution. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence for biological ‘micro’-evolution. There is a great amount of rationale for one to presume that ‘macro’-evolution is valid but there exists no scientific proof of it.
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Macroevolution is only microevolution over a large period of time. This dichotomy is not accepted by any scientific circles but the afforementioned ones that a priori reject anything contradictory to a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible before even investigating the evidence.
 
localghost said:
We are currently residing in satans kingdom. This world is ruled by satan. The devils doctrines (evolution, natural selection and more to come) are being taught and accepted, by the world because it is the truth, not of gods kingdom - But of this world. It is the truth of this world, satans world.

People often find it hard to grasp the concept of what I’m saying here. I’m saying that, although the teaching of evoultion (which lays the foundation for many other evils, eugenics) is the truth of this world (there is evidence) but would that be incompatible with gods kingdom, would god be happy with a dog eat dog society, where only the ‘fittest’ survive? The answer is no, because everything jesus taught refuted that.

Hold onto this world if you will yb taking the easy road and accepting the devils teaching, or reject this teaching and enter the kingdom of heaven. It’s up to you. This is a time of testing, a real difficult testing of faith. As jesus said it would be “many will be mislead by many”. These are the end times, right now and the heat is on.

Do you reject the teaching of man (inspired by satan)? Or accept the teaching of god of the other world?

Make your choice.

Matthew 24:5 “For many will come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and will mislead many.”

Matthew 24:11 “And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many.”
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Sorry, but your post fails catholic theology 101. GOD created this world, the natural order, all the creatures and man. He created them GOOD. Man chose to sin and thus we all inherited that fallenness. We REMAIN GOOD, but fallen. That is VERY different than the “purely evil” man (or world) commonly encountered in protestant evangelical thought. Read Genesis again and see it for what it really is: the story of humanity, this world and what God created us for, how we screwed it up and how God gave us reason to hope still.

You are WAY too hung up on evolution. The catholic church does NOT require (or even encourage people) to believe in a literal 7 day creation story. This does not mean Darwin was 100% right either. That’s called a false dillemma. We puny humans have barely begun to scratch the surface of understanding the scientific processes God created. And why would we expect Him to reveal them to us when we already have the scientific prowess to exterminate the world and not the maturity to use that knowledge wisely? God’s no dummy. He’s not going to reveal things that we aren’t ready for.

Catholicism has nothing to fear from rational inquiry into scientific matters.
 
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