Why almost half the Catholics not prolife?

[Diaconia]

Pope Francis: Death penalty is contrary to the Gospel Catholic News

Vatican City, Oct 11, 2017 / 10:51 am (CNA/EWTN News).- In an Oct. 11 speech to members of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelization, Pope Francis said the topic of the death penalty should have “a more adequate and coherent space” in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. This topic “cannot be reduced to a mere memory of a historic teaching” without taking into account the works and teachings of recent popes, he said, adding that it must also consider the “mutual awarene…

An entire article concerning this, with the direct quote. This topic is so well known, and has been discussed in such detail since it occurred. You can easily use the search function for these sorts of inquiry in the future. . . .

 

[Ender]

If and when you are elected pope I will give your thoughts equal weighting to those of Pope St. JPII and Francis.

Well I did expect a less combative response, as well as an actual response to my comments, and not just a put down of me personally. So let me ask something else: if capital punishment is indeed contrary to the Gospels does that mean it is intrinsically evil?

 

[Diaconia]

It is not a put down to point out that your opinion is NOT equal to that of the clergy generally, nor the bishops of our country, nor the Supreme Pontiff on issues of faith and morals.

They enjoy special charisms to teach the faithful, that is how Christ set the Church up, and that is how it is, whether you agree or not.

Throughout this entire thread you have argued and argued against the bishops and their pro-life teachings. You have also argued against the teachings of the two popes I mentioned.

You ask for evidence of Francis saying that capital punishment is contrary to the Gospel. I searched for that issue (which you could have done yourself), provided a link, and yet you respond with a question clearly covered in the article. You either didn’t read the information you requested, or you didn’t understand it.

If you are not not willing to listen to the teaching office of the Church; from it’s highest levels, I cannot help you further. You are simply dug in that you are right, the Magisterium is wrong, and that’s it.

I do not wish to further upset you, so I bid you peace.

Deacon Christopher

 

[Ender]

It is not a put down to point out that your opinion is NOT equal to that of the clergy generally, nor the bishops of our country, nor the Supreme Pontiff on issues of faith and morals.

Mostly I ask questions, and make observations. I don’t usually offer personal opinions.

Throughout this entire thread you have argued and argued against the bishops and their pro-life teachings. You have also argued against the teachings of the two popes I mentioned.

Not really. I have raised concerns, and pointed out issues. As far as arguing against the teachings of popes, again, what I have asked for is clarification. Cardinal Dulles asserted that the teaching of JPII was prudential. I agree with him. Do you consider him to have “argued against the teaching” of the pope as well?

You ask for evidence of Francis saying that capital punishment is contrary to the Gospel. I searched for that issue (which you could have done yourself), provided a link, and yet you respond with a question clearly covered in the article. You either didn’t read the information you requested, or you didn’t understand it.

No, my follow up question absolutely was not covered, and why do you find it more reasonable to write all of this rather than give the one word answer the question called for?

If you are not not willing to listen to the teaching office of the Church; from it’s highest levels, I cannot help you further

I have asked for clarification. Why are you unwilling to provide it?

I do not wish to further upset you, so I bid you peace.

I’m not upset. I am disappointed you won’t discuss this with me.

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

Sorry for being white. I forgot it was evil.

 

[MiserereMeiDei]

With a few exceptions, abortions are of necessity and not taken lightly.

“With few exceptions 50 million babies in the US have needed to be murdered since 1973.”

Do you really believe that? I ask because that’s insane yet it’s what you said.

 

[RepetantCatholic]

Love you upant, thank you for the kind thoughts. Again, I have been reading all the comments and thinking about it. Here is what I did. I called into EWTN Open Lines Tuesday and talked to a priest who was answering questions about Pro-life and Pro-choice and why it is ESSENTIAL, that we Catholics are Pro-life and, and, and vote Pro-life.

Again, for all intensive purposes I am pro-Life, but have voted for Pro-Choice candidates. The last election I abstained from voting at the national level, instead only voting for local issues.

So, the call screener was very nice in guiding my question. Here was the question I asked the priest, “Father, thank you for taking my call, this is a conundrum for many Catholics who are otherwise Pro-life. Do we vote for a Pro-life candidate although we disagree in immigration and environment and it seems Pope Francis has disagreed as well or can we abstain.”

Well, the Father’s response was very enlightening and very loving. Pro-Life is the primary issue we Catholics vote on because imagine without the sanctity of life this then leads to Eugenics (Picking and choosing who is born) and Euthenasia. OK, the Father knew me in his heart and knew that would get to me. Then he went onto discuss how atheist societies like the Communist and Nazis have always taken to killing the unborn. Then he said, I should vote and I should not be derelict in my duty to vote.

OK, that’s it. I’m voting for Trump and I’ll always vote for the Pro-life candidate. Now, I have to wait for the Church to open up and confess my sins. It’s no longer a sin of ignorance. I know what I have to do.

Finally for anyone reading on the call screener did recommend a Catholic voting guide that is featured on EWTN. Here is the link:

https://www.ewtn.com/vote/

I recommend all Catholics go that site. It’s very enlightening. For the Catholic that is on the fence, yes, you are a good Catholic but you need to be a better one. Remember, sympathy, love and tolerance; don’t be of this world and fall into the habit of listening to the media. The further away you can get from common thought into Religious and Spiritual thought the more you realize that media in general is slated towards agendas. So, vote Pro-life. Vote for Trump. Pray for Trump and Trump Supporters. And Pray for discernment and repentance, there is no reason to belittle your fellow American. No. God, calls us to understand all people, especially when it feels like we are disagreeing. Strong emotions, means something you have to work on. Bonding with all people and praying for their needs is what God calls us to do.

 

[Welshrabbit]

Doth mine deceive me or have I just witnessed someone changing their mind on an important issue because of a discussion had on the Internet?!

This is truly a historic moment!!

 

[Emeraldlady]

It’s disappointing that the official Church isn’t behind the authentic prolife party in the American Solidarity Party. Imagine if every Christian in America got behind this party and swept it into power!

 

[Welshrabbit]

Would the church lose tax exempt status if it actually came out and endorsed a specific candidate?

 

[Naga]

With respect to voting, Tim Staples here at Catholic Answers had a good explanation yesterday on Catholic Answers Live. THIS link should take you to the correct time, but if not, it is at 1:10:42.