Why Am I for nationa healthcare?

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Oscarthecat said:
So, the problem is that the government just hasnt put their mind to solving all those other problems?

Are you aware that the proposed healthcare bill will also deny access to care in certain cases when the cost is deemed disproportionate to the desired benefit?

Why is it ok for the government to deny benefits to save money, but not ok for insurance companies?
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Like others have been saying to me around here lately, thats hearsay!
 
aspawloski4th said:
Sometimes the best kind of evidence, Her disease is very easy to deny compared to most, it isn’t in the manual! There denial rate may be high, but I’m willing to beter their application rate is higher than anyone elses also. Goes back to" figures lie and liars figure’".
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:rolleyes:

There’s no reasoning with you, is there?
 
aspawloski4th said:
yes. The obertive word is forced. There will still be plans not supporting it. Where is your compaling about employer healcare plans supporting abortion? The surrenbt system is forcing someone here posting on these threads to slowly die, but there no complaint about that, except to effectively tell her to shut up when she comments on that.
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See the word " yes" ?
 
aspawloski4th said:
Like others have been saying to me around here lately, thats hearsay!
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You just acknowledged in another post that the government denies claims to people on medicaid!!!

You cannot disregard as hearsay what you just acknowledged to be true!
 
ComputerGeek25 said:
No.

Medicare denies more claims than private insurance (healthcare-economist.com/2008/06/30/medicare-more-likely-to-deny-claims-than-commerical-health-insurers/)

Yet, you have no problem with this because your wife’s rare disease hasn’t been denied.

But you want to expand government coverage for some reason…

:rolleyes:

Why?
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Becuase everybody should be insured, and I’m quite frankly sick n tired of there being people treated like Pathia, while Insurance moguls get rich off of denying life or death procedures. Believe it or not till about a year ago I was against an national healthcare.
 
Oscarthecat said:
So, your answer is that it is only hearsay that the government hasn’t put its mind to solving other problems?

Because you are the one who said that.
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Ok name me some bills in either house to solve those problems. then Ill believe you.
 
aspawloski4th said:
Becuase everybody should be insured, and I’m quite frankly sick n tired of there being people treated like Pathia, while Insurance moguls get rich off of denying life or death procedures. Believe it or not till about a year ago I was against an national healthcare.
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But do you understand that you have not been able to offer any compelling reasons why the national healthcare proposal is the best way to achieve that goal?

What is worse is that you seem reject all evidence to the contrary, even evidence that demonstrates national healthcare will ultimately hurt people.
 
aspawloski4th said:
Becuase everybody should be insured, and I’m quite frankly sick n tired of there being people treated like Pathia, while Insurance moguls get rich off of denying life or death procedures. Believe it or not till about a year ago I was against an national healthcare.
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As per usual, you completely sidestep the point. And play the emotional card.

You claim private insurance denies claims, yet the government is the biggest offender. Why is that?
 
Oscarthecat said:
But do you understand that you have not been able to offer any compelling reasons why the national healthcare proposal is the best way to achieve that goal?

What is worse is that you seem reject all evidence to the contrary, even evidence that demonstrates national healthcare will ultimately hurt people.
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And he has not provided any evidence what the profit margins of what private insurers are to prove his claim that they are indeed rolling in money.
 
Oscarthecat said:
But do you understand that you have not been able to offer any compelling reasons why the national healthcare proposal is the best way to achieve that goal?

What is worse is that you seem reject all evidence to the contrary, even evidence that demonstrates national healthcare will ultimately hurt people.
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In your opinion it isn’t compelling, that is totally subjective. What is compelling to one person is a waste of time to another. Just because a system di one thing oin one country doesnt neccesarly mean that same results in another. While communism is evil not matter what. Cuban’s have it better than North Korean, Because Kim Jungil is evil no matterwhat system he suscribes to. Respect for human life is still enough in the USA where I trust it. At least when its not in the busniess world< burt rememeber these days businesses have no alegance to any country.
 
aspawloski4th said:
Ok name me some bills in either house to solve those problems. then Ill believe you.
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Are you kidding me?

How about the no child left behind act? How about the housing bailouts that are going on right now? How about the department of housing and urban development? How about the “war on drugs.”

There- 3 major attempts to solve education, homelessness, and drug abuse.

And what are the results of these efforts? Education is still declining, drugs are booming, and you’re facing homelessness.

Believe me now?

The government’s seious efforts have not solved those problems so what evidence do you have that they can solve healthcare?
 
aspawloski4th said:
In your opinion it isn’t compelling, that is totally subjective. What is compelling to one person is a waste of time to another. Just because a system di one thing oin one country doesnt neccesarly mean that same results in another. While communism is evil not matter what. Cuban’s have it better than North Korean, Because Kim Jungil is evil no matterwhat system he suscribes to. Respect for human life is still enough in the USA where I trust it. At least when its not in the busniess world< burt rememeber these days businesses have no alegance to any country.
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This makes no sense.

How does this prove your claim that insurance companies deny cliams and are rolling in money.

Who denies the most claims?

What are the profit margins of the health insurance companies?
 
Oscarthecat said:
Are you kidding me?

How about the no child left behind act? How about the housing bailouts that are going on right now? How about the department of housing and urban development? How about the “war on drugs.”

There- 3 major attempts to solve education, homelessness, and drug abuse.

And what are the results of these efforts? Education is still declining, drugs are booming, and you’re facing homelessness.

Believe me now?

The government’s seious efforts have not solved those problems so what evidence do you have that they can solve healthcare?
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There should be no bail out the banks should of been allowed to fail ,and the mortages owed to failed banks forgiven since the entities that are owed dont exist. As for drug abuse, I have never been a fan of drug laws, if people want to get high they are going to get high whether or not we like it. But its your conservative side that is for more drug laws. Education is declining because of ****** local school boards. Schools should be teaching and have strict discilpline, corporal punishment should be brought back. I’m facing homelessness because a bank wouldn’t work with me and I got fired on a lie from my last job. “at will” employement law should be done away with, it haas run its course and isn’t usefull anymore.
 
aspawloski4th said:
In your opinion it isn’t compelling, that is totally subjective. What is compelling to one person is a waste of time to another. Just because a system di one thing oin one country doesnt neccesarly mean that same results in another. While communism is evil not matter what. Cuban’s have it better than North Korean, Because Kim Jungil is evil no matterwhat system he suscribes to. Respect for human life is still enough in the USA where I trust it. At least when its not in the busniess world< burt rememeber these days businesses have no alegance to any country.
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I mean no offense, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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