Are you too blinded with anger or ignorance to see that countries with a single payer system still deny care to those that are too expensive to treat, have long waits for life saving procedures which lead to untimely death, and have exorbant taxes and have more waste and pocket lining of government officials than any CEO’s compensation package?We are discussing people here, in which case that has to take a back seat. We need a single payer system to take that worry that gets in the way of everything out of the mix.
Are you so blind as to see all governement systems as equils Germany’s and Switzerland’s system works rather well. We are not getting Canada’s system.Are you too blinded with anger or ignorance to see that countries with a single payer system still deny care to those that are too expensive to treat, have long waits for life saving procedures which lead to untimely death, and have exorbant taxes and have more waste and pocket lining of government officials than any CEO’s compensation package?
They have some of the same problems!Are you so blind as to see all governement systems as equils Germany’s and Switzerland’s system works rather well. We are not getting Canada’s system.
You have to get hired first. lots of resumes went out and nothing. Just because you apply for a job doesn’t mean you get it. And please dont put words in my mouth. I said nothing about disagreeing with me bringing one to heall, I said those resposible for all the covereage denying in the case of Pathia are on a highway to Hell, listen! Pathia or anyone’s well being is trillions of time more important than any profit any insurance companies make, or their Crooked CEO’s make.No it isn’t. You can whine all you want to about how evil insurance companies are and how they are greedy and still doesn’t change the fact you have no basis for your arguement when they have one of the lowest profit margins in corporate america. Even if you cut out the large compensation plans, it would raise their profits less than 1%. To get 100% coverage for everyone under our current government regulations, they would have to jack everyones premiums up to just keep the lights on and keep paying claims. If that happened, you would still be whining how it wasn’t fair you had to pay more a year.
Instead of real reform, like allowing interstate competition between insurance companies, doing away with the bans on provate HSA’s, and loosening the mandates that every insurance policy has to include so many items whether the consumer wants them or not, you just want to screw up the system so you can get yours and to h*ll with everybody else, including those in your situations. I’ve tried to be patient, have prayed for you and your family and tried to be tactful, but I’m getting really sick of your whining and your pontificating that others will go to Hell if they don’t agree with you. You went on about having a degree in meteorology; well use it. You got fired from a job b/c someone didn’t like you; I’m sorry that happened but why not get back in the saddle and move one?
You have made a lot of illusions over several threads that people aren’t Catholic unless they support socialzed medicine and questioned where people would end up in the after life for not supporting more government programs.You have to get hired first. lots of resumes went out and nothing. Just because you apply for a job doesn’t mean you get it. And please dont put words in my mouth. I said nothing about disagreeing with me bringing one to heall, I said those resposible for all the covereage denying in the case of Pathia are on a highway to Hell, listen! Pathia or anyone’s well being is trillions of time more important than any profit any insurance companies make, or their Crooked CEO’s make.
I wasn’t waiting for the perfect system to support. Iv’e learned with other issues in the pt that when I wait for perfection it isn’t going to be fourthcoming. I’m waiting for my grandmother to pass away and I might be leaving the coutry myself. The dawdle around and get nothing done attitude is a bit much for me. I like to hurry and do things fast. They call this the land of the free, but then why is veryone so darn conformist here! I’m tired of cookie cutter people trying to force me into being cookie cutter myself.They have some of the same problems!
Why do you and your ilk not support piece-meal legislation to fix one thing at a time so we know we are properly fixing something? Why not fix the things that are actually broken instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water? Why is it if this bill is so great and needed now it won’t take effect until 2012, but tax hikes start next year?
They make millions by denying people life saving operations., need no specific proof , everyone knows that here. To me that overqualifies one as crooked.You have made a lot of illusions over several threads that people aren’t Catholic unless they support socialzed medicine and questioned where people would end up in the after life for not supporting more government programs.
But instead of small bills to fix problems like hers you want to pass a bill most Congressmen haven’t read, add more waste, raise taxes and most likely fix very little.
If you are going to refer to people as crooked you need to start showing some proof; I mean real proof, not just their salaries or stock options. If you cannot produce that info, then by forum rules you need to recant your statements.
Your opinion does not equal reality or any simblance of proof. Here is the definition of “crook” from Merriam Webster:They make millions by denying people life saving operations., need no specific proof , everyone knows that here. To me that overqualifies one as crooked.
Unless you can show proof of them committing fraud or committing crimes, then recant your statement.Main Entry: 2crook
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English crok, from Old Norse krōkr hook
Date: 13th century
1 : an implement having a bent or hooked form: as a : pothook *b *(1) : a shepherd’s staff (2) : crosier 1
2 : a part of something that is hook-shaped, curved, or bent <the crook of an umbrellahttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/2_bing.gif handle>
3 : bend, curve
4 : a person who engages in fraudulent or criminal practices
Because not everybody is covered as well as they think they are. Ever wonder why different plans cost different things? It’s wrong to say “oh, I got health insurance so I’m covered.”They make millions by denying people life saving operations., need no specific proof , everyone knows that here. To me that overqualifies one as crooked.
That isn’t mere opinion , it is fact. I refuse to. I find it funny you are worried about the interty of some money grubbing millionaire than those who got the shaft like Pathia. Don’t you dare ever question my motives. You can question my methods all you feeling like, but my motives are with the medical patients where they should be. You need to read your beattitudes, blessed be the poor, and woe to the rich.Your opinion does not equal reality or any simblance of proof. Here is the definition of “crook” from Merriam Webster:
Unless you can show proof of them committing fraud or committing crimes, then recant your statement.
Well let’s see. If the insurance companies made the decision to accept every claim, they would go out of business. We established this already (they deny 20% of claims and make a 3% profit.)You have to get hired first. lots of resumes went out and nothing. Just because you apply for a job doesn’t mean you get it. And please dont put words in my mouth. I said nothing about disagreeing with me bringing one to heall, I said those resposible for all the covereage denying in the case of Pathia are on a highway to Hell, listen! Pathia or anyone’s well being is trillions of time more important than any profit any insurance companies make, or their Crooked CEO’s make.
You just proved for me the need for antional healthcare. Take some of those millions for exectutuve salaries and put it into healcare where it belongs.Well let’s see. If the insurance companies made the decision to accept every claim, they would go out of business. We established this already (they deny 20% of claims and make a 3% profit.)
Then nobody would have insurance. Good or bad?
So… ‘back up your claim or recant’ get’s a ‘I don’t have to back up my claim because it’s fact’That isn’t mere opinion , it is fact. I refuse to. I find it funny you are worried about the interty of some money grubbing millionaire than those who got the shaft like Pathia. Don’t you dare ever question my motives. You can question my methods all you feeling like, but my motives are with the medical patients where they should be. You need to read your beattitudes, blessed be the poor, and woe to the rich.
Health care spending in the U.S.- 2.6 trillion dollars.You just proved for me the need for antional healthcare. Take some of those millions for exectutuve salaries and put it into healcare where it belongs.
OK, in your opinion, are there any circumstances where it would be appropriate for an insurance company to deny a claim?They make millions by denying people life saving operations., need no specific proof , everyone knows that here. To me that overqualifies one as crooked.
It’s a fact Iv’e heard over and over from multiple news sources, even conservative ones like Paul Harvey for many years as far back as the 1980’s. I’m supposed to deny what Iv’e been bombarded by? Anyone who things that, needs a white rubber room. To not know that you have to live in a cave or born in a barn, give me a break!So… ‘back up your claim or recant’ get’s a ‘I don’t have to back up my claim because it’s fact’
I see…
If the claim is for something that the policy say is not specifically covered, or the claim is proven to be fraudulant, like for a heart operation that really didnt happen.OK, in your opinion, are there any circumstances where it would be appropriate for an insurance company to deny a claim?
I thought I responded to the point just fine.Health care spending in the U.S.- 2.6 trillion dollars.
Those million aren’t even a drop in the bucket.
Edit- nice work at not responding to the point
Then by the rules of the forum you need to recant your statement.That isn’t mere opinion , it is fact. I refuse to.
I want to fix her problems with access to afforable insurance coverage, but through one bill at a time to make sure it is done RIGHT. You have been shown the proof over and over that cutting compensation want change a thing, yet you have nothing else left to hang on but your hatred of anybody with more than you have.I find it funny you are worried about the interty of some money grubbing millionaire than those who got the shaft like Pathia.
Your motives are very clear: me, me, me and throw in a couple other names to make me not look so bad.Don’t you dare ever question my motives. You can question my methods all you feeling like, but my motives are with the medical patients where they should be. You need to read your beattitudes, blessed be the poor, and woe to the rich.
If you’ve “heard over and over from multiple news sources” then it should be easy to find a few to back up your claims.It’s a fact Iv’e heard over and over from multiple news sources, even conservative ones like Paul Harvey for many years as far back as the 1980’s. I’m supposed to deny what Iv’e been bombarded by? Anyone who things that, needs a white rubber room. To not know that you have to live in a cave or born in a barn, give me a break!