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NotWorthy
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Aspaw, you’re funny! It’s mighty big of you to judge how other’s should handle their money!
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aspawloski4th
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People judge me all the time on aspects of my life they totally do not understand or have read up on. Think of it as returning the favor then
The funny thing about you saying that is I got some of the idea for that past from a homily on the same readings at Mass years ago from a CONSERVATVE priest who I know very well. I find it amazing how you twist the arguement off of you and then blow off the readings like they mean nothing.
The funny thing about you saying that is I got some of the idea for that past from a homily on the same readings at Mass years ago from a CONSERVATVE priest who I know very well. I find it amazing how you twist the arguement off of you and then blow off the readings like they mean nothing.
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CMatt25
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I’m for national healthcare because one of the things Christ required for righteousness was to care for the sick.
Matt 25:35 I was hungry and you fed me, thirsty and you gave me a drink; I was a stranger and you received me in your homes,36 naked and you clothed me; I was sick and you took care of me, in prison and you visited me.
Achieving what Christ wants is not possible unless everyone has access to quality, affordable, regular healthcare with no denials of coverage due to pre-existing conditions. The private sector alone has proven unable to deliver.
The need for national healthcare is morally a totally no brainer for me.
Matt 25:35 I was hungry and you fed me, thirsty and you gave me a drink; I was a stranger and you received me in your homes,36 naked and you clothed me; I was sick and you took care of me, in prison and you visited me.
Achieving what Christ wants is not possible unless everyone has access to quality, affordable, regular healthcare with no denials of coverage due to pre-existing conditions. The private sector alone has proven unable to deliver.
The need for national healthcare is morally a totally no brainer for me.
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tjm190
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You are welcome and encouraged to give out of your own pocket to support those in need of care. Care is expensive because there is not enough care to meet demand- nationalization would not solve this, only allow the government to decide who lives and who dies.
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aspawloski4th
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There would be enough care if people could afford to be trained. But here in the USA only the very rich can afford college and only the very poor get financial aid… The cost of health care being determined by supply and demand is by far an over simplification of the problem. The insuring of health whether on the patient end or on the insuring of doctors need to be made non profit.
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tjm190
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“Only the very rich can afford college”?
I can assure you this is not true- otherwise I wouldn’t be at college.
“Only the very poor get financial aid”? Equally untrue. Otherwise several of the people receiving aid would not be receiving it.
Supply and demand issues seem to represent the problem perfectly- it explains both our rising costs, our denial of coverage, and the vast waiting lists and denial of care that takes place in areas with nationalized care.
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addictedkoala
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I am against nationalized healthcare because of the hinderance of innovation and (relatively) lower quality. Much more importantly, involuntary taxes = theft. What happens if you don’t hand your money over to the government? They take more or throw you in jail. Theft is immoral, and the ends don’t justify the means. If the government stopped central planning (read: abolish the fed, stop mucking about in economic affairs) then everything would be much better for everyone, poor or rich.
“only allow the government to decide who lives and who dies.”
Those who don’t believe that are fooling themselves. Government’s will always claim as much power as they can. At a certain point they will kill, or allow to die, some people “for the good of the majority”
All it’ll take is one catastrophe, Government always gets more power when people are scared.
“only allow the government to decide who lives and who dies.”
Those who don’t believe that are fooling themselves. Government’s will always claim as much power as they can. At a certain point they will kill, or allow to die, some people “for the good of the majority”
All it’ll take is one catastrophe, Government always gets more power when people are scared.
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CDNowak
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And the poor (like myself) who oppose the health -]care reform/-] insurance mandate?
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ComputerGeek25
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aspawloski4th,
Why is it a calamity that 14% of GDP spent on medical care, but not so that 38% spent on interest on national debt?
Quite simply, we cannot afford nationalized healthcare.
Why is it a calamity that 14% of GDP spent on medical care, but not so that 38% spent on interest on national debt?
Quite simply, we cannot afford nationalized healthcare.
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wabrams
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There is a difference with giving money to the poor through local charities and having the government take it, waste a large percentage of it, then distribute rather poorly what is left.
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wabrams
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As a college educated man with a degree in meteorology, you know that the statement above is a flat-out LIE. A third of the people I went to x-ray school with barely had two pennies to rub together. You go on to contridict yourself with this statement:
So which is it: only the rich go to college or do the poor go to? I came from a lower-middle class background; I had no problems getting financial aid for school. You also forget about those poor kids who get great opportunities to play college sports on scholarship, or the ones who work hard in hs and get academic scholarships, or Pell grants.
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ComputerGeek25
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Circular arguement he’s making.
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aspawloski4th
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As an education man yourself, you should easily know your self that those two situations are not mutually exclusive. Keep it up. Your rtype of thinking is making the middle class dissapear.
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CDNowak
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Neither situation is true. My family was solidly middle class when I started college (upper 5 figure income). I received a nearly full ride scholarship, and was offered more at other schools.
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tjm190
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The middle class are neither extremely rich or extremely poor- and yet, colleges have plenty of middle class students.
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KQP
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Which gospel are you “quoting”? Translations from the Bible on rich and poor usually refer to their attitudes, not money. Abraham, Moses, Lazarus, and many others were rich. Please let me know what part of Luke?
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KQP
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I was hungry and YOU fed me, thirsty and YOU gave me a drink; I was a stranger and YOU received me in your homes,36 naked and YOU clothed me; I was sick and YOU took care of me, in prison and YOU visited me. That YOU is not the government. YOU are supposed to be involved directly in taking care of the poor, not the govt.
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NotWorthy
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Wow! I didn’t know you were that adept at judging others! At least Jesus says He will wait til I’m dead to judge me. And I’m really more concerned with how He judges me than you.People judge me all the time on aspects of my life they totally do not understand or have read up on. Think of it as returning the favor then
What I do with my money and how I help the poor are really none of your business. But show me where in the Gospels does Jesus say that “Give to Rome so they can take care of your poor and needy for you”? I am to give to Rome what is Rome’s.
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