Why Annunciation not Incarnation?

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Do we celebrate this solemnity because the Archangel Gabriel made an announcement to Mary or because on that day God became man? We’re advised to bow when we proclaim our belief in the incarnation during the creed, so why isn’t today (3/25) called the Feast of the Incarnation? Even when praying the rosary we refer to the first joyful mystery as annunciation rather than incarnation.

Have at it. 🙂
 
I also wonder this! Is the Annunciation of Gabriel more important then the fact that after Mary gave her Fiat God became man in the Incarnation? I personally would like it to be changed to The Incarnation.
 
Do we celebrate this solemnity because the Archangel Gabriel made an announcement to Mary or because on that day God became man? We’re advised to bow when we proclaim our belief in the incarnation during the creed, so why isn’t today (3/25) called the Feast of the Incarnation? Even when praying the rosary we refer to the first joyful mystery as annunciation rather than incarnation.

Have at it. 🙂
It’s the Feast of the Annunciation of the Incarnation.
 
It’s the Feast of the Annunciation of the Incarnation.
Wasn’t the incarnation announced by the prophets of old? The “overshadowing by the Holy Spirit” is more than just annunciation of it. Something more important happened than a proclamation or prophecy. God became man, but we’re celebrating the fact that Mary was told about it? :confused:

It’s not my intent to be irreverent, because this is my favorite feast, but in light of the church’s life-begins-at-conception stance I’m a bit surprised that the feast of the Incarnation of God is not on par with Christmas.
 
Wasn’t the incarnation announced by the prophets of old? The “overshadowing by the Holy Spirit” is more than just annunciation of it. Something more important happened than a proclamation or prophecy. God became man, but we’re celebrating the fact that Mary was told about it? :confused:

It’s not my intent to be irreverent, because this is my favorite feast, but in light of the church’s life-begins-at-conception stance I’m a bit surprised that the feast of the Incarnation of God is not on par with Christmas.
The Old Testament might have pre-figured the possibility, but we are celebrating the Annunciation to Mary that she is the Mother of God, at the moment of the Incarnation.
 
The Old Testament might have pre-figured the possibility, but we are celebrating the Annunciation to Mary that she is the Mother of God, at the moment of the Incarnation.
Yes, Yes, Br Rich. How beautiful, the Annuciation of the Incarnation of our Savior.:)Carlan
 
Do we celebrate this solemnity because the Archangel Gabriel made an announcement to Mary or because on that day God became man? We’re advised to bow when we proclaim our belief in the incarnation during the creed, so why isn’t today (3/25) called the Feast of the Incarnation? Even when praying the rosary we refer to the first joyful mystery as annunciation rather than incarnation.

Have at it. 🙂
Well, we are celebrating the Annunciation! The Annunciation and the Incarnation did not happen at the same time. First it was announced, then then Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. The reason we focus on the Annunciation and not the Incarnation is because, typically, Christmas is a celebration of the Incarnation. An Incarnation is not just the taking on of flesh, but the taking on of flesh and the birth. Therefore both theological ideas are celebrated at Christmas, whereas the Annunciation is celebrated and tied with fidelity to G-d (“Mary’s Yes”). It’s because two seperate theological ideas are being celebrated.

That said, it is not wrong to remember the Incarnation on the Feast Day of the Annunciation, but that, historically speaking, it is not the main focus.

Hope that helps.
 
Well, we are celebrating the Annunciation! The Annunciation and the Incarnation did not happen at the same time. First it was announced, then then Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. The reason we focus on the Annunciation and not the Incarnation is because, typically, Christmas is a celebration of the Incarnation. An Incarnation is not just the taking on of flesh, but the taking on of flesh and the birth. Therefore both theological ideas are celebrated at Christmas, whereas the Annunciation is celebrated and tied with fidelity to G-d (“Mary’s Yes”). It’s because two seperate theological ideas are being celebrated.

That said, it is not wrong to remember the Incarnation on the Feast Day of the Annunciation, but that, historically speaking, it is not the main focus.

Hope that helps.
So does that render our involvement in the Pro-Life movement moot then?
 
So does that render our involvement in the Pro-Life movement moot then?
No, not at all. It is simply what is being celebrated and remembered. Technically, with the use of a technical term that has a very specific meaning, for something to be incarnate it must have flesh and be born. The pro-life movement isn’t about “when does one become incarnate” but rather is about “when does one have a soul and, therefore, human”. Two seperate questions. Christ became incarnate, again in the technical sense (though most people think that incarnate simply means conception, instead of flesh and birth), on Christmas.

So, again, no, it doesn’t render it moot. The pro-life movement is not based upon incarnation, but upon sanctity of life.

Furthermore you can remember the Incarnation when celebrating the Annunciation. Just like you can remember and contemplate Christ’s death at Christmas, when you are also celebrating his birth!
 
Do we celebrate this solemnity because the Archangel Gabriel made an announcement to Mary or because on that day God became man? We’re advised to bow when we proclaim our belief in the incarnation during the creed, so why isn’t today (3/25) called the Feast of the Incarnation? Even when praying the rosary we refer to the first joyful mystery as annunciation rather than incarnation.

Have at it. 🙂
the feast is properly called the Annunciation of the Lord, it is a Solemnity of the Lord, not of Mary. The Incarnation is the act of God, the Annunciation asks and receives her consent, making Incarnation possible so the name celebrates both aspects, God’s work and the human response.
 
Do we celebrate this solemnity because the Archangel Gabriel made an announcement to Mary or because on that day God became man? We’re advised to bow when we proclaim our belief in the incarnation during the creed, so why isn’t today (3/25) called the Feast of the Incarnation? Even when praying the rosary we refer to the first joyful mystery as annunciation rather than incarnation.

Have at it. 🙂
The rubrics call for us to genuflect during the part about the incarnation in the Creed. There are only two time when we genuflect at this point: the Annunciation and Christmas.
 
Well, we are celebrating the Annunciation! The Annunciation and the Incarnation did not happen at the same time. First it was announced, then then Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. The reason we focus on the Annunciation and not the Incarnation is because, typically, Christmas is a celebration of the Incarnation. An Incarnation is not just the taking on of flesh, but the taking on of flesh and the birth. Therefore both theological ideas are celebrated at Christmas, whereas the Annunciation is celebrated and tied with fidelity to G-d (“Mary’s Yes”). It’s because two seperate theological ideas are being celebrated.

That said, it is not wrong to remember the Incarnation on the Feast Day of the Annunciation, but that, historically speaking, it is not the main focus.

Hope that helps.
To be “Incarnate” required Jesus (God) to take on a physical human nature. This occured at the Annunciation.
 
I suspect this issue may be revisited by the church in the future if our belief in life at conception is to be taken seriously. I believe that the feast of the Annunciation AND Incarnation should have a much greater importance on the liturgical calendar. It’s not even a holy day of obligation. Immaculate Conception of Mary is, while Jesus’ conception isn’t.

Could it be that it’s to emphasize an important dogma rather than the actual solemnity of the event? Why would the conception of Mary be of more importance than her birth, while the Lord’s day of birth is emphasized over the day of His conception?
 
^You know, I’ve always wondered that…

The Birth of Mary is not even a SOLEMNITY! (that means if September 8 is a Sunday, we just forget it)

If I was Papa Ben, I’d state that all observances which are feasts:
  1. If they fall on a Sunday in Ordinary Time, they should bump the Sunday.
  2. If they fall on a Sunday in any other season, they should be moved to the next open date on the Church calendar.
 
bmadamsberry seems to be right associating the Incarnation to Christmas.
An oridinary english dictionary gives these definitions:
1.
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2. Incarnation Christianity: The doctrine that the Son of God was conceived in the womb of Mary and that Jesus is true God and true man.
3. A bodily manifestation of a supernatural being.
…
2. a bodily form assumed by a god, etc.
 
Intersting point.

It used to be called the Annunciation of BVM
Now it is called the the Annunciation of Our Lord
I guess the modernists in the Church wish to distance themselves as far as possible from Our Lady.

I still believe the Annunciation is a Marian Feast day.
 
I guess the modernists in the Church wish to distance themselves as far as possible from Our Lady.
The modernists can distance themselves from our Lady as much as they want, but the Church has not moved away from her.
 
Intersting point.

It used to be called the Annunciation of BVM
Now it is called the the Annunciation of Our Lord
I guess the modernists in the Church wish to distance themselves as far as possible from Our Lady.

I still believe the Annunciation is a Marian Feast day.
Your post violates the stickies which prohibit “denigrating VII or the clergy” and “challenges to church teaching and authority.” The Church calendar is assembled and edited by the Vatican and the appropriate dicasteries. I doubt that the feast is called “The Annuniciation of Our Lord” (and that is Whose Incarnation the Angel was annunciating…Our Lord) was because of some “modernist” conspiracy.

In fact, the Catholic Encyclopedia which predates the reform of the calendar by at least 40 years states: “The Feast of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary (25 March), also called in old calendars: FESTUM INCARNATIONIS, INITIUM REDEMPTIONIS CONCEPTIO CHRISTI, ANNUNTIATIO CHRISTI, ANNUNTIATIO DOMINICA.” Therefore, the feast can be correctly identified as the Annunciation of Christ or the Annunciation of our Lord.
 
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