Why Anti-semetism?

[Saint_Michael]

In 1939 a Roper poll found that only thirty-nine percent of Americans felt that Jews should be treated like other people. Fifty-three percent believed that “Jews are different and should be restricted” and ten percent believed that Jews should be deported

I wonder what a poll of Americans in 1845 about Irish Catholics would reveal? Americans HATED Catholics, that’s a fact, maybe more than Jews, maybe not, but the fact is when a race or one religious group emigrates to a country in droves you make the inhabitants nervous, and there’s typically a backlash, Jews aren’t the only ones to face discrimination in America, or even close to the worst discrimination, that would be the Native Americans, then the African Americans.

 

[dosdog]

I wonder what a poll of Americans in 1845 about Irish Catholics would reveal? Americans HATED Catholics, that’s a fact, maybe more than Jews, maybe not, but the fact is when a race or one religious group emigrates to a country in droves you make the inhabitants nervous, and there’s typically a backlash, Jews aren’t the only ones to face discrimination in America, or even close to the worst discrimination, that would be the Native Americans, then the African Americans.

20 non-Catholic lay or religious organizations joined The National Catholic Welfare Council in opposition to amending the Comstock Act. This was not the first time, nor was it to be the last, that Sanger sought to stir up sectarian strife by blaming Catholics for her legislative failures. Catholic-bashing was a standard tactic (one that Planned Parenthood still finds useful to this day), although other Christian groups now also come in for criticism. Eight years later, in 1934, Sanger went to Congress again. Reporting on the first day of the hearings, the New York Times noted:
… the almost solidly Catholic opposition to the measure. This is now, according to Margaret Sanger. . . the only organized opposition to the proposal.

A favorite Catholic-baiter of Sanger’s was Norman E. Himes, who contributed articles to Sanger’s journal. Himes claimed there were genetic differences between Catholics and non-Catholics.
Are Catholic stocks . . . genetically inferior to such non-Catholic libertarian stocks and Unitarians and Universal . . . Freethinkers? Inferior to non-Catholics in general? . . . my guess is that the answer will someday be made in the affirmative. . . and if the supposed differentials in net productivity are also genuine, the situation is anti-social, perhaps gravely so.
Sanger sought to isolate Catholics by creating a schism between them and Protestants, who had held parallel views of birth control and abortion for centuries. She welcomed a report from a majority of the Committee on Marriage and the Home of the General Council of Churches (later the National Council of Churches) advocating birth control. This committee was composed largely of social elite Protestants, including Mrs. John D. Rockefeller, Jr. A number of Protestant church bodies publicly repudiated the committee’s endorsement.

blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

 

[Valke2]

My hubby’s grandmother is who I am referring to. She died in the nineties, and she was over ninety at her death. So, she would have been a child before Hitler came to power.

She and her husband escaped Austria in 1939 with my MIL who was an infant at the time.

Ok. But putting “Jewish” on a report card is not equal to The Nazi declartion that Jews were a race and the subsequent genocidal campaign. Did you ever find out why it was put on the report card?

 

[deb1]

Ok. But putting “Jewish” on a report card is not equal to The Nazi declartion that Jews were a race and the subsequent genocidal campaign. Did you ever find out why it was put on the report card?

I thought that it had something to do with her race as it was in the top left corner. But no, I never asked why it was put there. I had to have someone just tell me what it said. It was in German.

 

[Valke2]

I wonder what a poll of Americans in 1845 about Irish Catholics would reveal? Americans HATED Catholics, that’s a fact, maybe more than Jews, maybe not, but the fact is when a race or one religious group emigrates to a country in droves you make the inhabitants nervous, and there’s typically a backlash, Jews aren’t the only ones to face discrimination in America, or even close to the worst discrimination, that would be the Native Americans, then the African Americans.

Ok. But this is a thread about antisemitism. I’m not sure why so many people feel the need to point out other historic instances of persecution.

 

[Valke2]

One of the significant factors of the 1939 poll was of course the year. In an article I just read on the internet (I think in Wikipedia) it was estimated that the US could have saved as many as 200,000 jews but because of beuracratic red tape, reslulting from perhaps a certain apathy toward the plight of the Jews, this was never done.

 

[dosdog]

One of the significant factors of the 1939 poll was of course the year. In an article I just read on the internet (I think in Wikipedia) it was estimated that the US could have saved as many as 200,000 jews but because of beuracratic red tape, reslulting from perhaps a certain apathy toward the plight of the Jews, this was never done.

THE JEWISH COSMOLOGY OF VICTIMHOOD
jewishtribalreview.org/11cosmo.htm

 

[Karin]

One of the significant factors of the 1939 poll was of course the year. In an article I just read on the internet (I think in Wikipedia) it was estimated that the US could have saved as many as 200,000 jews but because of beuracratic red tape, reslulting from perhaps a certain apathy toward the plight of the Jews, this was never done.

Is this what this is all about…the US did not do enough to save Jews during /before WWII?

 

[dosdog]

Is this what this is all about…the US did not do enough to save Jews during /before WWII?

1938 September 7 Pope Pius XI, during a reception for Catholic pilgrims from Belgium, is said to have condemned the participation of Catholics in antisemitic movements and to have added that Christians, the spiritual descendents of the Patriarch Abraham, were “spiritually Semites.” This statement was omitted by all the Italian papers, including “L’Osservatore Romano”. (La Croix, no. 17060; Lewy)

1938 July 5 President Roosevelt convenes an international conference on refugees in the French resort town of Evian on Lake Geneva. It soon becomes clear that more and more countries, including the U.S., want to restrict the number of Jewish refugees allowed to immigrate to their nations.

1938 September 1 The Italian government orders all Jewish residents who settled in the country after 1919 to leave the country within six months or be deported.

1938 September 27 Police in Denmark adopt strict measures to prevent illegal Jewish immigrants from entering their country.

humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/timebase/1938tbse.htm

 

[Karin]

1938 September 7 Pope Pius XI, during a reception for Catholic pilgrims from Belgium, is said to have condemned the participation of Catholics in antisemitic movements and to have added that Christians, the spiritual descendents of the Patriarch Abraham, were “spiritually Semites.” This statement was omitted by all the Italian papers, including “L’Osservatore Romano”. (La Croix, no. 17060; Lewy)

1938 July 5 President Roosevelt convenes an international conference on refugees in the French resort town of Evian on Lake Geneva. It soon becomes clear that more and more countries, including the U.S., want to restrict the number of Jewish refugees allowed to immigrate to their nations.

1938 September 1 The Italian government orders all Jewish residents who settled in the country after 1919 to leave the country within six months or be deported.

1938 September 27 Police in Denmark adopt strict measures to prevent illegal Jewish immigrants from entering their country.

humanitas-international.org/showcase/chronography/timebase/1938tbse.htm

your point???

 

[Valke2]

THE JEWISH COSMOLOGY OF VICTIMHOOD
jewishtribalreview.org/11cosmo.htm

trash.

 

[Valke2]

Is this what this is all about…the US did not do enough to save Jews during /before WWII?

It is about anti-semitism. I was reading an online article about Nazism/antisemitism and I thought that post was interesting.

 

[Karin]

trash.

why?

 

[deb1]

It is about anti-semitism. I was reading an online article about Nazism/antisemitism and I thought that post was interesting.

This thread has gotten so long, Valke that I am going to have to reread the original post. I have forgotten what it said.

 

[Mr.Ex_Nihilo]

One of the significant factors of the 1939 poll was of course the year. In an article I just read on the internet (I think in Wikipedia) it was estimated that the US could have saved as many as 200,000 jews but because of beuracratic red tape, reslulting from perhaps a certain apathy toward the plight of the Jews, this was never done.

I think that one could easilly present an indestructable case that Hitler specifically targetted the Jewish people far more than any other ethnicity. But I don’t think the US was specifically rejecting Jewish people because of any inherent form of antisemitism.

Churchill himself had to fight very hard in order to get people to understand the dangers that Hitler presented to the world. His own intelligence was often rejected out of hand specifically because people refused to believe the reports.

Please keep in mind that many Jewish people in the US were denying the reports of what was going on in Europe too. The scope of this destruction was simply incomprehensible to the sensibilities of many, both Jew and Gentile, who were not directly experiencing the holocaust.

 

[Valke2]

why?

did you read the link?

 

[Karin]

did you read the link?

skimmed it…looked in whole like an interesting website it would seem that JTR is attempting to fight against the “wrong” impressions the people of the world have about Jews.

 

[Sixtus]

They killed Jesus.

Oh no they didn’'t! No one ‘Killed Jesus’!

Yes, it appeared in human history that they did, but He gave His life freely. He said ‘do you suppose that I cannot appeal to my Father, who would at once send to my aid more than twelve legions of angels’? ‘But how then could the scriptures be fulfilled, which say that this must be’? Mat 26 :53-54.

He thus ‘gave His life freely’. No one took it from Him.

Therefore, the Jews are innocent.

In blaming the Jews for life’s ills ‘judge not and you shall not be judged,For as you judge others, so you will yourselves be judged’ Mat 7: 1-2 Shortly after, Jesus uses the expression: ‘You hypocrite’!

Blaming the Jews [or anyone else for that matter] is a very dangerous thing to do.

 

[JohnWilliams]

How about the one I just mentioned? You have just judged the teachings of Judaism according to the actions of some of its adherents. Would you be okay with people judging Islam this way?

You have to understand what Islamic fundamentalism is. In the first 13 years of Islam Mohammed was able to convert less than 100 people. Then he picked up the sword. Mohammed slashed, stabbed and burned his way into “converts” through the Judeo/Chrisitan world beginning a Jihad that lasted 152 years. This is Islamic fundamentalism. The Muslims that are blowing things up today are the ones that “get it”.

iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/4793
The Power of the Sword

623 - Battle of Waddan
623 - Battle of Safwan
623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir
624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement.
624 - Zakat becomes mandatory
624 - Battle of Badr
624 - Battle of Bani Salim
624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr
624 - Battle of Bani Qainuqa
624 - Battle of Sawiq
624 - Battle of Ghatfan
624 - Battle of Bahran
625 - Battle of Uhud. 70 Muslims are killed.
625 - Battle of Humra-ul-Asad
625 - Battle of Banu Nudair
625 - Battle of Dhatur-Riqa
626 - Battle of Badru-Ukhra
626 - Battle of Dumatul-Jandal
626 - Battle of Banu Mustalaq Nikah
627 - Battle of the Trench
627 - Battle of Ahzab
627 - Battle of Bani Quraiza
627 - Battle of Bani Lahyan
627 - Battle of Ghaiba
627 - Battle of Khaibar
628 - Muhammad signs treaty with Quraish.
630 - Muhammad conquers Mecca.
630 - Battle of Hunsin.
630 - Battle of Tabuk
632 - Muhammad dies.
632 - Abu-Bakr, Muhammads father-in-law, along with Umar, begin a military move to enforce Islam in Arabia.
633 - Battle at Oman
633 - Battle at Hadramaut.
633 - Battle of Kazima
633 - Battle of Walaja
633 - Battle of Ulleis
633 - Battle of Anbar
634 - Battle of Basra,
634 - Battle of Damascus
634 - Battle of Ajnadin.
634 - Death of Hadrat Abu Bakr. Hadrat Umar Farooq becomes the Caliph.
634 - Battle of Namaraq
634 - Battle of Saqatia.
635 - Battle of Bridge.
635 - Battle of Buwaib.
635 - Conquest of Damascus.
635 - Battle of Fahl.
636 - Battle of Yermuk.
636 - Battle of Qadsiyia.
636 - Conquest of Madain.
637 - Battle of Jalula.
638 - Battle of Yarmouk.
638 - The Muslims defeat the Romans and enter Jerusalem.
638 - Conquest of Jazirah.
639 - Conquest of Khuizistan and movement into Egypt.
641 - Battle of Nihawand
642 - Battle of Ray in Persia
643 - Conquest of Azarbaijan
644 - Conquest of Fars
644 - Conquest of Kharan.
644 - Umar is murdered. Othman becomes the Caliph.
647 - Conquest of the island of Cypress
644 - Uman dies and is succeeded by Caliph Uthman.
648 - Campaign against the Byzantines.
651 - Naval battle against the Byzantines.
654 - Islam spreads into North Africa
656 - Uthman is murdered. Ali become Caliph.
658 - Battle of Nahrawan.
659 - Conquest of Egypt
661 - Ali is murdered.
662 - Egypt falls to Islam rule.
666 - Sicily is attacked by Muslims
677 - Siege of Constantinople
687 - Battle of Kufa
691 - Battle of Deir ul Jaliq
700 - Sufism takes root as a sect of Islam
700 - Military campaigns in North Africa
702 - Battle of Deir ul Jamira
711 - Muslims invade Gibraltar
711 - Conquest of Spain
713 - Conquest of Multan
716 - Invasion of Constantinople
732 - Battle of Tours in France.
740 - Battle of the Nobles.
741 - Battle of Bagdoura in North Africa
744 - Battle of Ain al Jurr.
746 - Battle of Rupar Thutha
748 - Battle of Rayy.
749 - Battle of lsfahan
749 - Battle of Nihawand
750 - Battle of Zab
772 - Battle of Janbi in North Africa
777 - Battle of Saragossa in Spain

 

[inJESUS]

yes John yet Muhammad was a peaceful man and a mercy to mankind.