Why are atheists so unhappy?

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Yay, another challenge to prove the unprovable, it’s not really working anymore. The only thing aheist claim is that they have no belief in a god. Claiming the universe is knowable is retarded since there’s so much we don’t know about it, at least with what we know today. Given enough time we might be able to figure it out but that’s why people are still working on it so they can figure out the answers.
If something is claimed it is either provable, will be provable, or is an act of faith. If you say it is not currently provable, will it be provable. Not by your understand of the universe. Then it would be an act of faith on your part. Some atheist you are to have so much faith.
 
Well good luck everyone here. I need to head out. Thank you to everyone who has read my thoughts.

As a humble Catholic leaving the battlefield, I would like to say Catholics, fight on, you are fighting the good fight. At the same time, a warrior knows which battles are worth pressing. So protect your own sense of time and your own personal needs.

And atheists, I hope you come to find God. Whether you are miserable now or not, you will be many many, I mean many, more times happier if you find God in Catholicism. Do not get caught up in side stuff, learn what Catholics really believe. It’s beautiful for any mind.
 
Yes a challenge. Well, this is a side argument that you are picking up. Not my main argument saying that you need to prove that the universe has no beginning to show atheist has merits.

In this side argument, what have you modeled? My first guess to modeling the sun’s rays in its complexity would be like . Here we model the millions of neutrons derived from and destroyed in nuclear reactions. So sun rays can be the same thing. Except it’s a little more complicated. Photons have group velocities (in 4 D space), wave velocities (in 4 D space), frequencies, orientation, effective mass, momentum (in 4 D space). So you would have to model each of that, and that’s only from my limited knowledge. That’s 15 dimensions. Now to get the number of photons accurately, you will need a model of the 10 million reactions or so every second in the sun. You can fudge it a bit since we are only talking about the light rays, by using monty carlo methods to estimate the appearance of each photon on the sun. Since the sun is, what, 100 earth diameters, that’s quite a large volume to approximate. That alone even in 1 D, I do not know of any supercomputer that can handle that. Now add 15 variables to it to describe the individual photons. Now with 10 million reactions, in 16 variables, it will take some large number of supercomputers. Now that is just the initial conditions.

In space there are many minute particles, but they will not have much of an effect on the photons. What is crazy are the magnetic fields. Since the sun’s magnetic field along encompasses the earth, we have to use relativistic equations to get accurate photon trajectories and attenuation. Quantum computers may be able to do that, but any real modeling will be only be zero,1 or 2 order approximations or some approximation. There will definitely be a sizable error margin. Modeling radioactive leakage over 10,000 years alone has error bars several times the size of the data. These error bars would be tremendously greater if we had to approximate and we will. Cause there are too many variables.

Now comes the easier to understand but thought to compute part. The multitude (I have no idea how many just that it is a lot) of absorption and remittance of these photons across the sky. I’m not talking about simple water vapor, but I’m talking about electron to electron interaction here.

Hehe, then there is the way less tedious calculation of rays hitting and interacting with your eyes. Whew, just typing this makes me hungry.

So how would you do this? Or anyone?
Dude tbh i don’t have any idea what you are talking about. :confused:

Do you realise just how powerful the fastest computers are? Were at 1000 trillion calculations per second.

Anyway have you actually modeled the movement of particals on a computer, or are you a layman trying to guess how you would go about such things?
 
The vast majority of Germans were Christians. Btw. atheist, neo-pagan, and satanic are mutually exclusive - seems nobody has noticed.
Hitler was a dictator I don’t think he needed the support of the majority of German Christians. Furthermore, once Hitler got into power the German people had little choice (well they did but fear kept them from making the right choice) for he did everything in order to stamp out adversity. I don’t see how this changes the facts in that the Nazis (those in control of the government) were either unbelievers or pagans (if there were Christians they were apostates/ex-communicated).

p.s. Those pictures were taken in 1929 and 1933 respectively, thus people were still unaware of how evil the Nazis were (in spite of this Pope Pius X and Pope Pius XI did right invictives against Nazi ideology).
 
Dolphins and apes, I believe, have brains comparable in size to humans, but they don’t have art or music, or science.
Yeah and we have bigger eyes then other mammals yet can’t see as well?
 
Well then, the first humans must have had empathy which means that it was always around and therefore is a moral absolute.

p.s. Empathy (as you describe it) is not a necessity just read up on the Stoics if you don’t believe me.
LOL the first humans where the product of 4.48 billion years of evoluton, we were NOT the first hominids. Joise you really should open a book, i hate to say it but you have yet to hit me with anything other than an argument from ignorance.
 
I can stop you there, atheism is not a claim god does not exist. Its a rejection of your claim god does exist.
No, otherwise you would be a deist as deists claim there is an impersonal higher being but none of which corresponds to any of the “gods” of theology. As an atheist you choose not to be a deist why? As such you do make a claim that any and all "gods’ do not exist.
 
No, otherwise you would be a deist as deists claim there is an impersonal higher being but none of which corresponds to any of the “gods” of theology. As an atheist you choose not to be a deist why? As such you do make a claim that any and all "gods’ do not exist.
Why would i be a deist? I reject the claims of deists also?
 
LOL the first humans where the product of 4.48 billion years of evoluton, we were NOT the first hominids. Josie you really should open a book,** i hate to say it but you have yet to hit me with anything other than an argument from ignorance.**
That’s because you’re illogical (you run around in circles when you speak). 😃
 
Dude tbh i don’t have any idea what you are talking about. :confused:

Do you realise just how powerful the fastest computers are? Were at 1000 trillion calculations per second.

Anyway have you actually modeled the movement of particals on a computer, or are you a layman trying to guess how you would go about such things?
Hey hey, I hope you guys are doing well. Yeah, I have experience in modeling atomic particles and interactions with matter. I did it in college among other things.
 
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That’s because you’re illogical (you run around in circles when you speak). 😃

CD is starting to remind me of “Dan the Illogical Scientist” from the Dilbert comic strip. :pWhenever we say something that CD doesn’t agree with, he simply says “you say that because you’re ignorant.”
 
LOL the first humans where the product of 4.48 billion years of evoluton, we were NOT the first hominids. Joise you really should open a book, i hate to say it but you have yet to hit me with anything other than an argument from ignorance.
Morals could not have evolved because there are certain requirements that are needed to stabilize a community. A certain amount of cooperation, sharing, trust, hard work, courage . . .etc. was needed in order for a society of hominids to survive. Do you get what I’m saying now? Our ancestors could not have been without some understanding of morality (whether they realized it was moral or not). There was always a universal moral code.
 
Its not about why, its the fact that the ones that were not are gone! 🤷
Again, (this is getting old :banghead: ) what does it matter whether a society thrives or fails? We’re all gonna die when the sun runs out of fuel in 5 million years, so why is it important to having a thriving society?
 
I can stop you there, atheism is not a claim god does not exist. Its a rejection of your claim god does exist.
Hey I’m back. I hope everyone here is doing well. Remember to get sunshine every so often for that daily dose of vitamin D

Anyways, here are wiki definitions of atheism and deism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist
“Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
“Deism is a religious and philosophical belief that a supreme being created the universe, and that this (and religious truth in general) can be determined using reason and observation of the natural world alone, without a need for either faith or organized religion.”

From the encyclopedic definition of atheism, it seems that you are not really an atheist. Instead “a rejection of your claim god does exist” would be an anti-Catholic since I am Catholic an that is a response to me. (Also we are on a forum called Catholic Answers ^^.)

So if you are atheist, you might want to edit your own thoughts. If your not, you might want to edit your profile.
 
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