Why are Catholics replacing Crucifixes with Resifixes?

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TheDoors said:
NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO! ARRRRRG!

deep breath

Sorry. I’ll go back to my corner now.
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Oh, did I fail to mention that they had crystals instead of water in the Holy Water fonts? Reason: “We have to get power wherever we can.”
 
Eeeeee.

Taking Jesus from the Cross of Calvary is like eating a oreo without the wafer. The protestants take Jesus from the cross and take the sacrifice of the Mass from the fullness of the Total Jesus. It is seeded with “prosperity theology” and escapes the steps of Calvary.

Just saying…
 
McDale721 said:
We have one at our parish. It’s horrible. Jesus looks like a waving cartoon character. “Oh hey there, welcome to my house! It’s got lots of rooms.” (insert goofy cartoon voice here.)

Every year when they take it down for Holy Week, we try to pay the maintenance crew to drop and break it.
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HAHAHA!!! That is too funny.

My sympathies. Our parish is a very modern round building that kind of looks like a flying saucer from the outside, but we have a gorgeous, lifesize, freestanding Italianate crucifix that is carved from a single block of wood.

http://www.sttheresa-littleeggharbo...rvice & Holy Thursday Mass 2011/_55_pic21.jpg
 
Is this a new design? In other words, was the church recently built or renovated? Usually a group is formed whose purpose is to decide which way to decorate the church. When my church went with mauve carpeting in the early 1990s I nearly died because it was so ugly and trendy. Strange as it ay seem, some parishes decorate based on the current style. I guess it is to remain current, due to the fact of people whining about the church being out of touch. Regardless, if my church ever renovates again I will try to get on the committee! Thankfully, the mauve carpet got filthy and had to be replaced with something more dirt friendly.
If you have questions about what is going on in your parish you should speak to your priest. Often times the complainers are the only ones who speak up. Your priest might like to know how others feel.
 
Many churches in my area have replaced the crucifix with a resifix. Why? Because no one cares for tradition and almost everyone in my area agrees, new is always better than old.
 
CB_Catholic said:
I have never seen a “Resifix” in a Protestant Church. They don’t have figures of any kind on their crosses or anywhere else, generally. No statues, icons, etc. Only bare crosses. It is not correct to say it makes Catholic churches who use them seem Protestant, because the Protestants generally do not use 3 dimensional images of Christ or anyone else. They may have some pictures, though.
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My apologies to you, Caroline, and to all; I just assumed it meant an empty cross - which of course, is what I was referring to. The principle, however, appears to be the same.

It would seem that the crucifix might be the appropriate form of cross at the beginning of the Mass, and a resifix or empty cross, after the consecration, or anyway, towards the latter part. But such a device re the symbol of the cross would probably come across as disturbingly ‘gimmicky’, I would imagine.
 
Andre1000 said:
…no one cares for tradition and almost everyone in my area agrees, new is always better than old.
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Words fail me whenever I see this idiocy and try to understand it. What makes them think that new is always better than old? :mad:
 
Not a fan, either.

Although it was really the Franciscans that popularized crucifixes. Before that, crosses were just that: empty crosses, ie +

Or at least that is how a priest explained it to me.
 
“Catholics ordinarily prefer crucifixes because it reminds them of Jesus’ sacrifice, and of how we must continue to pray that the graces won by that sacrifice will be applied to us and bring us eventually to heaven. As a side note, while many Protestants say that an “empty cross” symbolizes the Resurrection of Christ, actually an empty cross merely symbolizes that the cross isn’t currently being used. There is nothing about an empty cross, in and of itself, to indicate the Resurrection. A better symbol of the Resurrection is the empty tomb.”
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The Church, or geographic parts thereof, seems to be going through a bit of a phase at the moment where we don’t want to do anything that someone might find even the slightest bit offensive or objectionable and indeed some folks don’t like seeing a Corpus on a cross. Personally I don’t agree with making concessions or “compromises” for others who find Catholicism uncomfortable for whatever reason. It is our Faith after all.

The protestants probably protested against it during the reformation because they were (and some still are) stuck on the ridiculous and false notion that Catholicism champions idolatry (they didn’t like our statues very much either).

Without going deeper into the theology surrounding the use and importance of the crucifix to our Faith, suffice it to say that one must remember the Roman Catholic Church celebrates a sacrifice at each and every mass during which bread and wine is transubstantiated into the real Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Blessed Lord. The crucifixion best symbolizes and depicts that. This is the really the focus-point and culmination of a Catholic Mass. It seems to me that the concept is simply being gradually watered down in our liturgies and places of worship. IMHO I think it’s a sad sign of the times to see many Catholic Churches opting to go without a crucifix. There would be no Easter Sunday without Good Friday.

God Bless…
 
Fan_of_Trent said:
The Church, or geographic parts thereof, seems to be going through a bit of a phase at the moment where we don’t want to do anything that someone might find even the slightest bit offensive or objectionable and indeed some folks don’t like seeing a Corpus on a cross. Personally I don’t agree with making concessions or “compromises” for others who find Catholicism uncomfortable for whatever reason. It is our Faith after all.

The protestants probably protested against it during the reformation because they were (and some still are) stuck on the ridiculous and false notion that Catholicism champions idolatry (they didn’t like our statues very much either).

Without going deeper into the theology surrounding the use and importance of the crucifix to our Faith, suffice it to say that one must remember the Roman Catholic Church celebrates a sacrifice at each and every mass during which bread and wine is transubstantiated into the real Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Blessed Lord. The crucifixion best symbolizes and depicts that. This is the really the focus-point and culmination of a Catholic Mass. It seems to me that the concept is simply being gradually watered down in our liturgies and places of worship. IMHO I think it’s a sad sign of the times to see many Catholic Churches opting to go without a crucifix. There would be no Easter Sunday without Good Friday.

God Bless…
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I agree with everything you said here. It is called the “Holy Sacrifice of the Mass”; it is not the “Holy Celebration of the Resurrection”. But it brings up a question: is a Mass valid without a crucifix? I would think not.

Another liberty that has been taken is the “recipe” for the communion wafers. Another priest reported one parish was putting sugar, eggs, cinnamon, etc. [like something out of Betty Crocker] in theirs. This went on for 10 years, and for 10 years no one received the Body and Blood of Christ in that church. :mad:
 
sedonaman said:
I agree with everything you said here. It is called the “Holy Sacrifice of the Mass”; it is not the “Holy Celebration of the Resurrection”. But it brings up a question: is a Mass valid without a crucifix? I would think not.
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A crucifix is not part of the form for the the Eucharist so it would not have an effect on the validity of the sacrament. I don’t think you can speak of the validity of a Mass apart from the validity of a sacrament.

But the lack of a crucifix could make a Mass illicit.
 
sedonaman said:
Words fail me whenever I see this idiocy and try to understand it. What makes them think that new is always better than old? :mad:
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Yes this make me also sad.😦
Fan_of_Trent said:
:mad: Modernism :mad:
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This modernism has destroyed too much.😦

It is sad. In my area, when I say something like sacred Tradition, everyone is confused and it is new for them. I experienced two big parts:
-people who thinks “reason” is the first source for truth
-and the others believe whatever there bishop says even if he says obvious heretic.
They only remember that there is something like the Bible because of the protestants and Tradition is forgotten.:(:(😦
 
Fan_of_Trent said:
The Church, or geographic parts thereof, seems to be going through a bit of a phase at the moment where we don’t want to do anything that someone might find even the slightest bit offensive or objectionable and indeed some folks don’t like seeing a Corpus on a cross. Personally I don’t agree with making concessions or “compromises” for others who find Catholicism uncomfortable for whatever reason. It is our Faith after all.

The protestants probably protested against it during the reformation because they were (and some still are) stuck on the ridiculous and false notion that Catholicism champions idolatry (they didn’t like our statues very much either).

Without going deeper into the theology surrounding the use and importance of the crucifix to our Faith, suffice it to say that one must remember the Roman Catholic Church celebrates a sacrifice at each and every mass during which bread and wine is transubstantiated into the real Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Blessed Lord. The crucifixion best symbolizes and depicts that. This is the really the focus-point and culmination of a Catholic Mass. It seems to me that the concept is simply being gradually watered down in our liturgies and places of worship. IMHO I think it’s a sad sign of the times to see many Catholic Churches opting to go without a crucifix. There would be no Easter Sunday without Good Friday.

God Bless…
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The sacrifice we bring, is a sacrifice of praise. Grief and praise conflict. It was Christ’s sacrifice on the cross. He was our high priest. "A sacrifice of thanksgiving will honour me and I will show God’s salvation to the upright.’

franceshogan.com/Assets/books/Psalms%20of%20praise/Psalm50.html
 
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