Why are Catholics so intollerant?

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Are we “intollerant?”

If we are why are we?

If we are not, why is there a preception that we are?

Do folks pick on Catholics because were are the bully on the block?

God bless you and your’s

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PJM said:
Are we “intollerant?”
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As a whole, absolutely not. Of course there are varying degrees of “intolerance” within each individual, but the Church itself is tolerant by enlarge. There are however, some areas where gray does not exist and the Church simply sees something as being either right or wrong (abortion as one example). But when one stops and asks, “Does God only see “gray” or is there absolutes?” I think you might understand why we believe what we believe.
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If we are why are we?
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See comment above.
PJM said:
If we are not, why is there a preception that we are?
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Because society by-enlarge continues to tare down absolutes when it comes to morality and spiritual matters. With more time will come greater and greater separation from “absolutes” and greater and greater acceptance of all truth being relative based on each individual’s personal viewpoint on a given topic. If the Church doesn’t change with society, it is seen as being “intolerant,” “unyielding,” “judgmental”, etc.
PJM said:
Do folks pick on Catholics because were are the bully on the block?
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I don’t think so. Generally, I think that the goal is simply to get the Church to comply with society’s belief that there are no moral absolutes. In other words, to gain control of Church dogma, teachings, and morality in order to bend it to it’s ever-changing definition of what is right and what is wrong.
 
Tietjen said:
As a whole, absolutely not. Of course there are varying degrees of “intolerance” within each individual, but the Church itself is tolerant by enlarge. There are however, some areas where gray does not exist and the Church simply sees something as being either right or wrong (abortion as one example). But when one stops and asks, “Does God only see “gray” or is there absolutes?” I think you might understand why we believe what we believe.

See comment above.

Because society by-enlarge continues to tare down absolutes when it comes to morality and spiritual matters. With more time will come greater and greater separation from “absolutes” and greater and greater acceptance of all truth being relative based on each individual’s personal viewpoint on a given topic. If the Church doesn’t change with society, it is seen as being “intolerant,” “unyielding,” “judgmental”, etc.

I don’t think so. Generally, I think that the goal is simply to get the Church to comply with society’s belief that there are no moral absolutes. In other words, to gain control of Church dogma, teachings, and morality in order to bend it to it’s ever-changing definition of what is right and what is wrong.
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You make some great points. Thanks:thumbsup:

So the Catholic Church is intolerate?

God bless,

PJM m.c.
 
Individuals can be intolerant, and though many Catholics are very Christian toward others there are some who aren’t and perhaps react with some antogonism . Some of this can be their particular temperament and some the way they present their beliefs.

“Malice must be banished from your tongue.” [Psalm 34:13]
“We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves…For Christ did not please Himself; but as it is written, ‘The reproaches of those who reproached you fell on me.’” [Romans. 15:1-3]
“Do not let your love be pretence, but sincerely prefer good to evil. Love each other as brothers should, and have a profound respect for each other…If any of the saints are in need you must share with them; and you must make hospitality your special care.” [Romans 12:9-13]
 
People confuse “intolerance” and “acceptance”. If we don’t accept something, it is mislabeled as intolerant.
 
The word “tolerance” is kinda offensive to me in that tolerance seems to indicate a second-class citizenship. To tolerate someone is to feel anything less than love towards them. If I have to tolerate something or someone, in my mind, I am putting their value beneath mine. I am called to love the person and hate the sin. It seems as if some people have tried to mix the love and hate together, and tolerance is the lukewarm “middle” definition that maybe all people can agree on. Also, once something is tolerated, it’s much easier to have more and more of what’s tolerated incorperated into one’s life. I think AA says something about “changing playmates and playgrounds”. Someone has come to tolerate x sinful behavior that once they initially overcome it, any reexposure to any near occasion of sin can cause relapse.

So, yeah, I guess you could call me intolerant. I am loving, and I deeply care about most everyone I meet and know, but I’ll speak up when I disagree with someone on issues that I should “tolerate”. I make sure I let the other person know that I care for them but I think x is sinful. Depending on the person, I have been called a bigot before. But most people thank me for telling the truth, and some have come to respect me for not going along with what society says.

God Bless!
Ericka
 
Catholics don’t accept gay marriage, sex of any kind outside of marriage, abortion ‘rights,’ porn, contraception, divorce and remarriage, and a lot of other stuff that’s considered acceptable in the modern world. So we’re intolerant.
 
PJM said:
You make some great points. Thanks:thumbsup:

So the Catholic Church is intolerate?
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The Church is not intolerant. After all, we are all sinners, aren’t we?

No, the Church is unwavering, inflexible, immovable and unshakable on some matters, and her confidence seems to unnerve those people who aren’t comfortable with such certainty.
 
Question for you and anyone who cares to answer:

Was Jesus intolerant? Do you and the Catholics you know reflect the teachings of Jesus Christ?

I think if we reflect the teachings and examples left for us by our Risen Savior, that should be our only concern. For some people, saying that homosexual intimacy or having multiple spouses are both wrong is being intolerant. Some people don’t like to hear the truth and their firm denial of the grace Christ offers us is going to send them to hell - not anything Jesus or any Catholic can say or do.

Peace to you,

Kelly
 
HouseArrest said:
People confuse “intolerance” and “acceptance”. If we don’t accept something, it is mislabeled as intolerant.
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Minor pick: People confuse “tolerance” and “acceptance.” I know tolerant people who are not very accepting.

If you somehow think you are “better” than someone else, you are an intolerant person.

We should measure ourselves against ourselves, not against others.
 
I think that “tolerant” just boils down to conforming with the morality of the day. The morality of the day is much less tolerant of some things, and much more tolerant of others, than it was say 50 years ago. Not only could you be tossed in jail for things 50 years ago that you wouldn’t be jailed for today, but you can also be tossed in jail today for things you wouldn’t have been jailed for 50 years ago. Not that the morality of the day and the criminal law are identical, but they do track fairly closely.

To get called intolerant all one has to do is not be on the same page as the conventional wisdom (or conventional morality, I suppose I should say). And the Church is certainly “guilty” of that.
 
It is always helpful in these cases to define terms. Perhaps the OP would like to provide their working definitions of “tolerance” and “intolerance.” That way we all won’t talk past each other.🙂
 
I don’t know how the OP defines tolerate or accept, but going by the dictionary, tolerate means to endure and acceptance means to agree. You can tolerate something but not accept it. If I do not like what my child is doing, I can tolerate him; I can love him, care for him, assure his safety, and still be tolerating him. To tolerate is not looking down on someone. It is actually quite the opposite if you think about it. I am not withholding any love or care if I tolerate something. I am not shutting him out.

I don’t have to accept his behavior, however. That would be agreeing with him, or making it known, expressly or not, that it is allowed.

Many people ask for tolerance when really what they want is acceptance. When they don’t get it, they call you intolerant. I will agree the Catholic church is not accepting of a lot of things, however, it is tolerant of everything. We are asked through the corporal works of mercy to feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, etc. No where does it say to ask them first if they deserve it.
 
PJM said:
Are we “intollerant?”
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I’m not intolerant and most Catholics I know are very tolerant of differing ideas.

Most people, not just Catholics, will draw the line at others desecrating everything we holy sacred.
 
are Catholics intolerant?

Should we tolerate the intolerable just to get along, or should we be counter cultural?
 
Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no convictions - G.K.Chesterton
 
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