Why are homosexuality threads so popular?

[Bennie_P]

Quaker’s don’t really believe anything anymore accept that you can believe whatever you want. They are essentially unitarians now. Because of this, Quaker’s can range from strict conservative Christians to hedonistic atheists and everything in between.

The Quaker’s were always on the fringe of Christianity, pacifism has been one of it’s main known beliefs, but as being a Christian sect it has always rejected most of the Church’s teachings.

Quakers feeling their oats

Deseret News (Salt Lake City), Jul 8, 2006

Yet despite their forward-thinking ways, the Society of Friends still battles an old bugaboo: finding a diversity of people to go along with their diversity of thought. For the most part, Quakers have remained a white, East Coast bunch.
“We’ve been working to get a more diverse group,” said Theo Mace, a Quaker from Seattle who helped organize the gathering. “We do have a lot of diverse spiritual interests – there are Buddhist Friends, Friends of Jewish descent, Wiccan Quakers, Universalist Quakers. We have an Abolitionist history, and I think we tend to rest on our laurels somewhat. I don’t think Quakers stop and think about why we’re all so white.”
Karen Williams from Washington, D.C., says some people feel that the Quaker tradition, which sees silence as a virtue, often doesn’t mesh with other ethnic Christian traditions where joy and exuberance are important. But she isn’t buying it.

In the end, Quakerism appears to no longer be about people finding a way to shape their lives to fit an ideal, it’s more about shaping your ideals to fit your life – your background, politics and personal point of view.

Though it is denied, as to the homosexuality threads there is a agenda to reshape society’s view on sexual morality and it is an organized effort to make homosexuality to appear normal, so it is to the interest of the “gay” agenda to continue to push discussion good and bad concerning the issue. Despite the efforts of the gay rights agenda, homosexuality will never be fully acceptable by the majority of society except by force and intimadation. Homosexual behavoir doesn’t have a moral leg to stand on and as burnside noted:

Originally Posted by burnside http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/buttons_cad/viewpost.gif
I think you will find that gay people will actually only get a kind of phoney respect.The way the law is being manipulated people will pay lip service to it in order to keep their jobs.I may well watch what i say in public,but i won’t be leaving any homosexual alone with any young boys in my family,just as i won’t be leaving any heterosexual with an adulterous reputation alone with any of the girls.
If everyone kept their sex life to the bedroom,noone would know what our orientation was. Nowadays,a perfectly innocent case of students of the same sex sharing a Flat for sensible financial reasons has some people nudging and winking.

In fact, I think discrimination by non-Christian groups against those professing the “gay” lifestyle will increase and full acceptance will never be acheived and the trigger for the increase in discrimination will be the overt efforts of acceptance by the “gay” rights movement itself. As to other sexual sins, general acceptance to homosexuality is equal to general accpetance to all sexual immorality, so why does the adulterer have to cry out for thier right to be immoral if the gay rights apologist does it for them? Let the 'gay" dude take all the heat.

 

[fix]

I agree. The gay issue will follow the same path as artificial birth control. ABC is firmly entrenched, accepted by the vast majority, including Catholics, and is not an issue.

Look at the younger people. They don’t care about gays. They accept them and see it as normal. A few more years and nobody will pay any more attention to gays than they now pay to ABC.

Yes, truth never changes but we can suffocate our consciences so much we refuse to accept it. The slide downhill continues.

 

[breck_rider123]

I am not a very religous person. I might as well come out now. But i feel that if you are how you are, than who cares? Is it worse to be gay and be completly faithful to your partner, or to be heterosexual and commit adultery? People protest this all the time, and what totally gets me is that this is a sin. Well, eating shellfish is a sin! You might as well ban that, too! I am not an agressive person, but an assertive women, and i would like you to please take the time out of your schedule to visit my blog and see my views on the topic. Thank you! P.S. I really like how you state that you aren’t going to argue… That really got my attention!

 

[fix]

Is it worse to be gay and be completly faithful to your partner, or to be heterosexual and commit adultery?

I am wondering what your point is here? Is it worse to rob a bank or rob an old lady?

Well, eating shellfish is a sin!

No, the ceremonial law no longer binds.

 

[buffalo]

I am not a very religous person. I might as well come out now. But i feel that if you are how you are, than who cares? Is it worse to be gay and be completly faithful to your partner, or to be heterosexual and commit adultery? People protest this all the time, and what totally gets me is that this is a sin. Well, eating shellfish is a sin! You might as well ban that, too! I am not an agressive person, but an assertive women, and i would like you to please take the time out of your schedule to visit my blog and see my views on the topic. Thank you! P.S. I really like how you state that you aren’t going to argue… That really got my attention!

Society has the right to regulate behavior and to make unlawful behaviors that are detrimental to the common good.

 

[Newbie2]

Sigh…

I knew it wouldn’t take long to slide off topic; we’ve seen enough threads about homosexuality; I wanted to know why we feel a need to talk about it, not just to start yet another thread talking about it.

 

[fix]

Sigh…

I knew it wouldn’t take long to slide off topic; we’ve seen enough threads about homosexuality; I wanted to know why we feel a need to talk about it, not just to start yet another thread talking about it.

Is it not obvious? There is a strong current to change how the culture understands this problem. The number of threads relates to the tension that exists. Catholics accept the acts are wrong. Many want the culture, and the Church, to claim they are not wrong.

 

[Bennie_P]

Sigh…

I knew it wouldn’t take long to slide off topic; we’ve seen enough threads about homosexuality; I wanted to know why we feel a need to talk about it, not just to start yet another thread talking about it.

Haven’t your read any of the posts?

There is a battle going on for the hearts and minds over the issue of morality - Suggestion - if you don’t want to talk about the issue of homosexuality then don’t start a new thread about the issue.

May the Peace of the Lord find your heart and His truth find a clear mind prepared for truth and the Grace to spread it. PAX

 

[Maxply]

I think for some it’s how you read the Bible.

It’s pretty clear that Bible is against homosexual activity. What’s amazing is the weird contortions that some denominations go through in order to accept homosexuality as okay. . .

And this, to be sure, goes against the Protestant’s claim to simply follow the Bible, sans interpretation!

Interesting contradiction there, which underlines how trendy many denominations have become.

 

[manualman]

Hold up a sign in a public that says “Adultery is WRONG” and see how many comments you get.

Try it with “Thou Shall Not Steal.”
How about “Tell the Truth and Never Lie?”

Still no controversy? Try “Sodomy is always WRONG.” Now what happened? Why the difference?

The Church and its members are not fixated on homosexuality. For some reason, our culture is. For us, it is a resolved question. We just wind up responding to the culture’s attempts to redefine morality.

 

[Exalt]

I don’t want to rehash old territory, i.e. I don’t want to start yet another thread debating whether homosexuality is right or wrong, natural or unnatural, genetic or not, etc., so please, let’s not go there.

What I’d like to know is why threads on homosexuality generate so much discussion in these forums (Moral Theology and Social Justice)

My opinion is that for whatever reason, such a “lifestyle sin” issue is out there (no pun intended ) in our society, and that for whatever reason, such sexual sin is considered more serious then, say, heterosexuals living together or adultry.

Any thoughts?

I keep posting in such threads mostly because I think it’s ridiculous that someone can think that expressed homosexuality is something wrong (in of itself). I think it’s even *more *ridiculous that this issue is becoming more and more important to the religious right in the United States. I think the Church’s teaching on homosexuality is extremely harmful and leads to a great deal of ignorance, pain, broken families and, on rare occassion, actual violence (both physical and otherwise).

 

[burnside]

A book by David Morrison"Beyond Gay" explains very well that the Catholic Church is correct.David used to be a gay activist.

 

[Newbie2]

Suggestion - if you don’t want to talk about the issue of homosexuality then don’t start a new thread about the issue.

No need for sarcasm. :tsktsk:

Did I imply that I was complaining about it? It seems to me that homosexuality is the topic-dejour and wanted to generate some discussion on why that may be, rather than go over the same ground again as to why it’s not acceptable, etc.

A different angle, in other words.

 

[jero]

I would guess the ‘parading’ you find so offensive is a direct result of gays being forced, for so long, to hide shamefully out of sight. I sat behind a couple in church 2 weeks ago and they kept nuzzling and fondling each other through out the sermon. she would lean over, kiss the back of his neck… his shoulder was pressed against her breast…they were all over each other. Held hands throughout the entire mass. kissed each other whenever… there was very little attention to mass being paid. My point? Gays are not allowed to show any affection to those they are attracted to in public, whereas heterosexual can…wherever they are-even in a church. therefore militant gays take it to an offensive extreme and parade.

 

[FishMonger]

Once the generation under the spell of the spirit of Vatican II is gone, we’ll implement the true spirit and letter of the fathers of Vatican II. Your analogy is flawed. It doesn’t matter how accepted contraception is, it’s still a mortal sin. Same with homosexual acts. In fact, given that contraception is a mortal sin I don’t see how homosexual acts could not be. On the flip side, the fact that contraception is so widely accepted explains why homosexual acts also are.

Contraception may be considered a mortal sin under doctrine, but that’s not what the people believe. They disagree with doctrine and reject it.

Homosexuality is following the same path. The social taboo is breaking down, and while doctrine may say it is a sin, the people won’t believe it. Many don’t now. We see it happening today.

 

[havemercy]

Because homosexuality is popular?

 

[FishMonger]

I think you will find that gay people will actually only get a kind of phoney respect.The way the law is being manipulated people will pay lip service to it in order to keep their jobs.I may well watch what i say in public,but i won’t be leaving any homosexual alone with any young boys in my family,just as i won’t be leaving any heterosexual with an adulterous reputation alone with any of the girls.
If everyone kept their sex life to the bedroom,noone would know what our orientation was.Nowadays,a perfectly innocent case of students of the same sex sharing a Flat for sensible financial reasons has some people nudging and winking.

Some people probably are faking acceptance, but the demographics are all on the side of the gays. The younger the demographic, the higher the acceptance of gays. The kids just don’t see it as an issue.

Innocent students shouldn’t really care what the nudgers and winkers think. Most don’t.

 

[FishMonger]

Society has the right to regulate behavior and to make unlawful behaviors that are detrimental to the common good.

Correct. And society has decided gays are not a danger.

 

[burnside]

Contraception may be considered a mortal sin under doctrine, but that’s not what the people believe. They disagree with doctrine and reject it.

Homosexuality is following the same path. The social taboo is breaking down, and while doctrine may say it is a sin, the people won’t believe it. Many don’t now. We see it happening today.

Many Popes spoke out against slavery and people rejected it.In
present day India,catholic clergy are facing resistance from their
own parishioners when they try to object to the Caste System.
They have become Christians,but they seem to want to cling to this Caste System.Should the Church just dump Her teachings because people choose to reject them?They rejected Jesus 2000 years ago as well.

 

[Alphonsus_John]

Contraception may be considered a mortal sin under doctrine, but that’s not what the people believe. They disagree with doctrine and reject it.

Homosexuality is following the same path. The social taboo is breaking down, and while doctrine may say it is a sin, the people won’t believe it. Many don’t now. We see it happening today.

Fishermonger,

I’m 31 and my brother is 29. Both of us have changed our opinions from for ABC to against ABC after learning what the church really teaches and why it teaches what it teaches. Please realize there are is a counter-culture of young Catholics who want real Spritual Food, not relativist gobbeldy-gook.

For the record, I thought the church’s ban on ABC was complete horse-poop until I actually read Humanae Vitae and prayed on it.