Why are most common Evangelical Protestant Christians way of worship not Liturgical?

[Dokimas]

Palaeologos in black; Doki in color.

If you’re going to give an example, then give an example which has to do with a liturgical occasion. Healing isn’t a liturgical act; you might as well cite an example of Jesus donning his sandals. I’m quite sure Jesus had very few sandals in His life and put them on the exact same way each time. I’m sure, the the grand scheme of things, it was quite boring (I take that back; I suppose watching Jesus to anything would have been wonderful.)

In any case, Christianity isn’t merely a case of “monkey-see-monkey-do” imitation of everything Jesus did, and avoidance of anything he isn’t recorded as doing. (But you’d make if 'monkey-see-monkey-do from the liturgy?) He can promise the thief that they will be together that night in Paradise; neither you nor I can make such a promise. (I haven’t been able to heal the blind, either so what’s your point?)

 

[Dokimas]

It is the only way to worship Him as a body. Privately, you can pray however you wish, knowing that it will be heard. But as a church, we worship decently and in order, and according to the same form that the Church has always worshipped. If you depart from that because you find it boring, that says more about your own disposition than it does any defect in the liturgy.

As the priest said to the Baptist pastor, “Fine; you go ahead and worship God in your way, and we’ll go ahead and worship him in His.”

As a disciple of Jesus (BTW, the original Greek word for disciple includes in its meaning the idea of imitation) I’m trying to figure out where Jesus told us to following the liturgy as the ONLY way to worship Him in a group properly???​

BTW, I never departed from the liturgy; I was never catholic.​

I’m still trying to find where the priest in your story found where Jesus specifically taught liturgy.

 

[Palaeologos]

Palaeologos in black; Doki in color.

In any case, Christianity isn’t merely a case of “monkey-see-monkey-do” imitation of everything Jesus did, and avoidance of anything he isn’t recorded as doing. (But you’d make if 'monkey-see-monkey-do from the liturgy?)

Have you ever actually attended a liturgical church for an extended period of time? What exactly about it, do you think, is “monkey-see-monkey-do”? I’m asking because I would like to believe that your objection isn’t just a reflexive “I know you are but what am I?” response.

He can promise the thief that they will be together that night in Paradise; neither you nor I can make such a promise. (I haven’t been able to heal the blind, either so what’s your point?)

I am beginning to see a correlation between your tendency to treat the Bible as a collection of verses and your inability to follow a train of thought on this forum.

 

[Dokimas]

Have you ever actually attended a liturgical church for an extended period of time? What exactly about it, do you think, is “monkey-see-monkey-do”? I’m asking because I would like to believe that your objection isn’t just a reflexive “I know you are but what am I?” response.

I am beginning to see a correlation between your tendency to treat the Bible as a collection of verses and your inability to follow a train of thought on this forum.

I have been to several services including weddings and funeral. You can tell catholics in the service because they know exactly what to do when to do it. In fact, even those that don’t go regularly any more knows what to expect and when. BTW, if you can worship God in a CC mass, great for you. Please don’t tell me I can’t worship God correctly or completely unless I go to your church.​

The Bible is a collection of God’s thoughts.​

I may have an inability to follow trains of thought. At least I have an excuse.

 

[Dokimas]

Palaeologos: He can promise the thief that they will be together that night in Paradise; neither you nor I can make such a promise.

[SIGN]Doki: I haven’t been able to heal the blind, either so what’s your point? [/SIGN]

Palaeologos: I am beginning to see a correlation between your tendency to treat the Bible as a collection of verses and your inability to follow a train of thought on this forum.

Looks like my question acknowledges I didn’t get your point.

 

[Palaeologos]

I have been to several services including weddings and funeral. You can tell catholics in the service because they know exactly what to do when to do it. In fact, even those that don’t go regularly any more knows what to expect and when.

How does that make Catholic worship monkey-see-monkey-do? Are you suggesting that it’s wrong to know exactly what to do and when to do it? It seems to me that’s the definition of worshipping decently and in order–as opposed to someone taking the notion to run up and down the aisles gibbering at the top of their lungs in the midst of the sermon.

The Bible is a collection of God’s thoughts.

From where I stand it looks more like a history of his dealings with his people.

I may have an inability to follow trains of thought. At least I have an excuse.

OK. You seemed to be suggesting that if Jesus did something, we were supposed to do it too, or if he didn’t do something, then we shouldn’t do it either. My example of the assurance to the thief was to show that Christianity isn’t about simply aping the actions of Jesus, and that therefore your example (that Jesus’ healing of the blind wasn’t ritualistic) was beside the point. I hope that what I’m getting at makes sense, even if you don’t agree with it.

The point of liturgy is not to entertain. The point of the service being the same is so that it becomes a part of you. Speaking, singing and praying the texts helps to form orthodox belief and practice : “lex orandi, lex credendi (the word that is to be prayed is the word that is to be believed”).

 

[Dokimas]

Palaeologos in black; Doki in color.

How does that make Catholic worship monkey-see-monkey-do? Are you suggesting that it’s wrong to know exactly what to do and when to do it? It seems to me that’s the definition of worshipping decently and in order–as opposed to someone taking the notion to run up and down the aisles gibbering at the top of their lungs in the midst of the sermon.​

You used the term MSMD in a silly way so I decided to turn it back on you in a way the could be used better than you used it to show you that you should be careful throwing stones.

From where I stand it looks more like a history of his dealings with his people.​

Could you be standing in the wrong direction so you’re only seeing a small part of the Bible?

OK. You seemed to be suggesting that if Jesus did something, we were supposed to do it too, NO; seems to me you’re the one to imply it; how’d you get that from me saying I don’t have the gift of healing? One of us isn’t following this conversation: you accused me of not being able to follow it, but I think it’s you. or if he didn’t do something, then we shouldn’t do it either. (nothing could be further from the truth.) My example of the assurance to the thief was to show that Christianity isn’t about simply aping the actions of Jesus, and that therefore your example (that Jesus’ healing of the blind wasn’t ritualistic) was beside the point. I hope that what I’m getting at makes sense, even if you don’t agree with it. I have no clue.

The point of liturgy is not to entertain. (Worship isn’t for entertainment specifically. Is it wrong to enjoy it?) The point of the service being the same is so that it becomes a part of you. (A purpose of worshiping God is that He’ll become a little more a part of us than ever before.) Speaking, singing and praying the texts helps to form orthodox belief and practice : “lex orandi, lex credendi (the word that is to be prayed is the word that is to be believed”). If that suits you, who am I to give you a hard time about it. BTW, the Word meditated upon is believed and becomes a part of us.