Why are muslims so violent?

[Sagefrakrobatik]

Saudi Arabia also plays a part in all of this.

***Yeah, there has been no reporting from the mainstream media about the civil war between Hamas and the Fatah in Gaza. ***

Hamas in their own voices

Actually I have read several news reports about the ongoing civil tensions between Fatah and Hamas. It’s not being hidden as much as you think. It might not be on the front cover but its there. The first time I heard of the conflict was 4 years in the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

Wake up to what? I already wrote - how many of them are dead because hamas hid behind them. .

It doesnt make good military nor diplomatic sense to attack your enemy in a highly concentrated urban environment. I did not know why Israel did not decide to send in ground troops in the beggining? So because a group of idiots decide to antagonize a country it gives that country a right to kill hundreds of innocent civilians? The only thing this will do is perpetuate the violence even further. Why do you think anti-semitism is on the rise in Europe?

Walid Shoebat has tried to tell us what is going on in in the Palestinian schools. Children as young as in kindergarten start on the road of jihad (that violent kind) and the start of dehumanizing the Israelis

Walid Shoebat Shoebat’s experiences with what he was taught in islam..
Select the program that says, Talking It Over, PART 1 December 13, 2008.

You might be suprised to learn that Israel children are taught in some schools to hate Palestinians! I dont have the source with me but I will try to get it if I can. I heard it from a friend of mine who converted from Islam to Christianity . He told me that He saw a video of Israel children reciting violence towards palestinians in a class and I know the professor so I’ll try to get.

**In islam the only one that they consider innocent are muslims. Infidels - woman, children, old people, unarmed men are not considered innocent. ** And muslims know this when they make blanket statements to our news reporters such as ‘We do not believe in the killing of any innocents…’ and we take that statement like a bunch of dolts and think they are talking about us non-muslims too while they are not.

There is actually a Hadith I read once were Muhammed goes into battle and finds women and children have died and from there he commands his followers not to kill women or children in battle.

The word is “taqiyya” and it relates to how Muslims act and interact with non-Muslims. Here is the sura and verse for you to see, and also to show those Muslims where they are wrong. Ready?

here goes…

004.101
YUSUFALI: When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

PICKTHAL: And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.

SHAKIR: And when you journey in the earth, there is no blame on you if you shorten the prayer, if you fear that those who disbelieve will cause you distress, surely the unbelievers are your open enemy.

The four schools of Islamic jurisprudence all agree that this verse means that Muslims can and should lie when around non-Muslims, for fear of being exposed as a Muslim. And as you can see, this verse calls for you as a Muslim to see the non-Muslim as your enemy. No confusion here!

I have heard a different story concerning the concept of deception in Islam by a Muslim from Jordan. He told me that it is appropriate to lie and be deceptive in order to bring people who are in conflict together for reconciliation purposes.

It appears that India is sick of the junk that comes out of Pakistan (which is not only funded by the USA, but the saudis fund/support the jihadists and use pakistan as their jihadi training ground) and so they are looking for a fight against pakistan.

India seeing that Pakistan is doing nothing to stop their terrorists (why would they? they are just following the koran and being good, little muslims).

They have been making a lot of mistakes in regards to muslims - they gave them land (Pakistan) which they found out is not going to stop their violence. then they want kashmir and are wanting even more than just Kashmir. this is where, I hope, the Philippinos and israel have learned that giving the muslims land doesn’t solve anything. (Europe and their allowing the muslims ‘urban sensitive zones’ is another story - pure idiocy.)

Have you heard of the Ayodha Riots in the 90’s.

 

[Booklover]

booklover, do you have a website for that quote.

I am finding in my readings from ex-muslims that most of them have the same, or similiar, conclusions about islam.

I don’t know why all of them do not, unless they are afraid of leaving islam. I also read from muslims who are indeed afraid of leaving but have left islam in their own ways. Sort of giving back islam what it gives to others - a forced deception that they have to do in order not to be tortured/killed.

But, if you have a website for her quote - I would really appreciate it. I have listened to her on some videos and have to hand it to her - she is one brave soul.

Here are the links:
jihadwatch.org/archives/021267.php
jihadwatch.org/archives/020218.php

Here’s a very good interview with Nonie Darwish about her new book about sharia: “Cruel and Usual Punishment, The Terryfing Global Implications of Islamic Law”

familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2207/pub_detail.asp

Vickie

 

[R_not]

Here are the links:
jihadwatch.org/archives/021267.php
jihadwatch.org/archives/020218.php

Here’s a very good interview with Nonie Darwish about her new book about sharia: “Cruel and Usual Punishment, The Terryfing Global Implications of Islamic Law”

familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2207/pub_detail.asp

Vickie

Thanks much!