Why are not more Catholics adamant about avoiding eternal damnation at all costs?

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A question I wonder as I continually observe many fellow Catholics who apparently seem complacent and unimpressed by the prospect or possibility of spending eternity apart from God for the choices they make while in this world. I encounter more Catholics seemingly hell bent on rationalizing away or searching for subjective exceptions to the objective sin choices they make.
Are they lacking the *fundamental choice *to be made or deepened: to ally themselves with, or to decide, against Christ (see St. Ignatius Loyola Spiritual Exercises)?

Is not lukewarmness a condition of choice that sets the soul at risk for eternal damnation? How forgiving is God of the sin of presumption? How much culpability does God impute to believers when Jesus repeatidly stated and warned – “He who has ears, let him hear.”? (see Matt. 11: 15, 13: 9, 43; Mark 4: 9, 23; Luke 8: 8, 14: 35).
 
  1. The nature of people, desire to do what they want.
  2. Poor religious training.
I for one constantly think about the state that I am in given that I never know when I’m going to go. My previous priest used to tell me that he did not think that many people go to hell. He thinks that God wants us with Him and is not as critical of people as people are. Things like that make people wishy washy about eternity. I personally don’t want to take that chance. I am not perfect or claim to be but I try to avoid all sin, especially mortal sin. I don’t go to confession as often as I should but I run,especially when I am believe that I may have committed a mortal sin, I try to live by the laws and precepts of the Lord and His Church, I don’t take anything for granted. I constantly pray for mercy and forgiveness and I try to do unto others. In other words, I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling!

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I think most of them think It’ll be easy to at least hit Purgatory.

I reckon a lot folks will have a rude awakening. Our Lady’s apparition at Fatima makes that point clear.
 
Sometime in the 20th century priests started preaching that Gis is a God of Love, which of course He is.

Unfortunately, they got so caught up in that, that they forgot to tell people that He is also a God of Justice, which we will have to face when we stand before the Judgment Seat.

The passionate desire for Heaven beame subdued with a wishy-washy complacency. We all became like the Pharisee ratyer than the Publican in the parable, saying “I’m not a bad person’” rather than “God have mercy on me, a sinner.”
 
Funny, I always thought of Catholics as being too wound up in the “avoiding hell” part.
 
I don’t know how anyone could be too wound up in that.

If there is one place that you want to avoid, it is hell.

How do you get to hell? By doing evil, right? Now I would also say,

If there is anything you want to avoid doing, it is evil.

Anyone who is hell-bent (excuse the pun) on avoiding evil is on the right track IMHO.
 
I don’t know how anyone could be too wound up in that.

If there is one place that you want to avoid, it is hell.

How do you get to hell? By doing evil, right? Now I would also say,

If there is anything you want to avoid doing, it is evil.

Anyone who is hell-bent (excuse the pun) on avoiding evil is on the right track IMHO.
shrug A focus on hell is a focus away from doing good, in my opinion. If we compell others to hold avoiding hell as the highest goal, then we invite complacency - they have no motivation to do more than *just *avoiding hell. I don’t think avoiding hell is all that hard, from the Catholic perspective. Just go to church, give a little of your money here and there, don’t commit any mortal sins, and hell is pretty much out of the picture. There is no motivation to do
*more. *Where is the love of God? If we motivate people to do good out of *love, *instead of fear, we invite people do to way more than a hell-centered worldview. Besides, I think a hell-centered worldview is inconsistent with the view of God we find in the Gospels. While some of Jesus teachings do indeed mention and focus on hell, the majority are motivated from viewing God as abba and veiwing humanity as the body of Christ.
 
The act of contrition says it all:

“…because I fear your just punishments, but most of all because I have offended Thee, oh my God, who art all good and deserving of all my love…”

It is more important to be concerned that we have offended God and failed to love Him than to be concerned that we are going to hell. Failing to love God, after all, is the hell that starts right now.
 
How can we know the heart of another?

How do we know that more Catholics are NOT trying to avoid hell? How many people do you really KNOW, even at your own church? How many people do you just assume are ‘not doing anything’ because you don’t SEE them doing something?

I don’t deny that I for one don’t do anywhere near enough. But I think myself that God would be more concerned that I be aware of MY failings rather than focusing on the failings of others. It is a very, very fine ‘line’ so to speak between simply noting a fact, stating an opinion, and actually ‘improperly’ judging and finally actively denigrating or even damning another person. Speaking again just for myself, until I was mighty sure that I was at the very least doing the MINIMUM (which God knows is hard enough doing any given day let alone EVERY day), I wouldn’t want to be assessing where OTHERS stood on the ‘heaven to hell’ continuum. It’s too dangerous to assume that my ‘concern’ is JUST for others and not a very subtle tool of the devil’s to make me feel ‘better’ about MYSELF. I know I have too high an opinion of myself as it is which needs a good stiff dose of humility, stat!

Just an opinion. Heaven knows that we need the prayers of others and also good solid education and help, even when the help consists in hearing truth that you might not want to hear. But we must above all IMO keep a real, solid distinction. . .something that the prayer that says, "Lord in my zeal to spread love of truth, let me not forget the truth of love,’ or something like that.
 
Mother Angelica said that we should all aim for heaven. That way if we fall short, at least we go to Purgatory. If we aim for Purgatory; and are not good enough … then we are in serious trouble.
 
shrug A focus on hell is a focus away from doing good, in my opinion. If we compell others to hold avoiding hell as the highest goal, then we invite complacency - they have no motivation to do more than *just *avoiding hell. I don’t think avoiding hell is all that hard, from the Catholic perspective. Just go to church, give a little of your money here and there, don’t commit any mortal sins, and hell is pretty much out of the picture. There is no motivation to do
*more. *Where is the love of God? If we motivate people to do good out of *love, *instead of fear, we invite people do to way more than a hell-centered worldview. Besides, I think a hell-centered worldview is inconsistent with the view of God we find in the Gospels. While some of Jesus teachings do indeed mention and focus on hell, the majority are motivated from viewing God as abba and veiwing humanity as the body of Christ.
Not so much a focus on the reality of hell, but a neglect on the reality of hell and the real implications that this has for the choices that one makes in this very short life that will determine one’s eternal destiny.

“Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.” **Matthew 7: 13 **
 
How can we know the heart of another?

How do we know that more Catholics are NOT trying to avoid hell? How many people do you really KNOW, even at your own church? How many people do you just assume are ‘not doing anything’ because you don’t SEE them doing something?

I don’t deny that I for one don’t do anywhere near enough. But I think myself that God would be more concerned that I be aware of MY failings rather than focusing on the failings of others. It is a very, very fine ‘line’ so to speak between simply noting a fact, stating an opinion, and actually ‘improperly’ judging and finally actively denigrating or even damning another person. Speaking again just for myself, until I was mighty sure that I was at the very least doing the MINIMUM (which God knows is hard enough doing any given day let alone EVERY day), I wouldn’t want to be assessing where OTHERS stood on the ‘heaven to hell’ continuum. It’s too dangerous to assume that my ‘concern’ is JUST for others and not a very subtle tool of the devil’s to make me feel ‘better’ about MYSELF. I know I have too high an opinion of myself as it is which needs a good stiff dose of humility, stat!
Thanks for the warning, as Jesus cautioned against presumming to know another’s heart in judgment:

"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;” Luke 6: 37

“Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye.” Luke 6: 41-42

But Jesus also says immediately after the not judging others, that we can know a tree by it’s fruit:

"For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit; for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorns, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil man out of his evil treasure produces evil; for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks. "Why do you call me `Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?” Luke 6: 43-46

Jesus also warns that one does not wander or drift into heaven by proximity or association:

“And some one said to him, “Lord, will those who are saved be few?” And he said to them, "Strive to enter by the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able. When once the householder has risen up and shut the door, you will begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, open to us.' He will answer you, I do not know where you come from.’” Luke 13: 23-25

"`I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew you out of my mouth.” Revelation 3: 15-16
 
Mother Angelica said that we should all aim for heaven. That way if we fall short, at least we go to Purgatory. If we aim for Purgatory; and are not good enough … then we are in serious trouble.
I wonder if it is possible to wander into heaven, or for that matter to drift into hell out of neglect for the gospel and the grace for conversion being offered?
 
A recent survery reported something like 85% of Americans believe in hell, but nobody goes there.
 
Found it:

Americans Think Hell Exists,
But No One Goes There



A Bad Catechesis

Why, then, do so many American Catholics adopt the sanguine view that no one goes to Hell? Tongue in check, I pass over the possibility anyone could suppose people have become more saintly than in the past and have stopped committing mortal sins.

The next possibility seems to be true. Such optimism is being fed by the poor catechesis and teaching on the Four Last Things - Death, Judgment, Heaven and Hell - since Vatican II. The progressivist view of Hans Urs von Balthasar on universal salvation, for example, has become mainstream thinking, even among so-called conservative Catholic scholars today. Von Balthasar boldly queried that since the Redemption of Christ was sufficient to have saved all sinners, why should it not be so? In the end, he proposed, one can entertain the possibility that Hell, should it exist, is vacant (Dare We Hope?). Instead of sternly repudiating this thinking, Pope John Paul II in a certain way accepted it in his own work Crossing the Threshold of Hope (end of chap. 28).
 
Perhaps the Protestants are right! 😦

Just faith is needed not faith and works. :hmmm:
 
But now for the more astounding statistic: Of all those folks who still purport to believe in Hell, only one-half of 1% thinks that they could possibly be going there. That is to say, everyone is going to Heaven, and virtually no one will be in Hell. For all practical purposes, Hell might as well not exist.

Sadly, this general view prevails even among Catholics, despite the teaching of the Church, which states that those who die in the state of mortal sin will be judged and condemned to Hell, a place, an abode of everlasting torment. It is filled with the enemies of Christ (Ps. 109:1), those who refuse to believe in the Gospel (John 3:18), the impure, thieves, the covetous, blasphemers (1 Cor 6:10), and many of the great on this earth (Matt 19:30), among others. Hell not only exists, therefore, but would be well populated, as Scriptures itself affirms: “Enter ye in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in thereat.” (Matt 7:13)
 
It is nice to know that I am in good company in keeping mindful of the reality of hell on my consciousness radar:
The Saints and Doctors of the Church counsel us to think often of Hell. St. Bernard said:
“Often go down to Hell during your lifetime, so that you will not have to after death.”
Or the words of St. John Chrysostom:
“He who despises Hell or forgets it will not escape it.”
 
It is nice to know that I am in good company in keeping myself mindful of the reality of hell:
The Saints and Doctors of the Church counsel us to think often of Hell. St. Bernard said:
“Often go down to Hell during your lifetime, so that you will not have to after death.”
Or the words of St. John Chrysostom:
“He who despises Hell or forgets it will not escape it.”
 
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