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patrickveech
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From a moral standpoint, is there a concrete explanation for homosexuality?
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Denae
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Well the Church doesn’t say that there is a clear cut explination. (Or at least one that I have found. I could be wrong). There are genetic links and environmental links. I personally believe it’s a combination of both. No one REALLY knows 100% what causes homosexuality. Well, God does, but we don’t.
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KingAlfred
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Nature. It exists in the animal kingdom, too. The condition is natural. The acts aren’t.
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Dempsey1919
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This is my personal opinion.
Homosexuality is a disorder; it is not normal and goes against the laws of nature. As such, I don’t believe that genetics play a role in human sexuality.
Homosexuality is a psychological disorder brought about by experiences in the formative years of childhood. I believe that homosexuals feel somewhat emasculated. During their adolescent years they looked up to other men as role models, and this may have brought about confused sexual feelings.
Many homosexuals lacked a strong male role model when growing up. They did not have a father figure to guide and teach them. I know homosexuals who were brought up in a feminine household with no male influences. I believe they are looking for the love and guidance they lacked during childhood; and consequently develop confused sexual desires for other men.
Another cause of homosexuality in some people is that they experienced rejection during childhood and adolescence, particularly by the opposite sex. A lot of teenagers who operate on the fringes of society feel rejected and lonely. They don’t have many friends and are often mistreated. In some instances, rejection by the oposite sex makes them feel unwanted and worthless. They subsequently avoid all interactions with the opposite sex. The only friends they have are male. They never experience acceptance by females and therefore develop sexual desires for the only people who show them affection - members of the same sex.
Some homosexuals felt rejected by other males during adolescence. Many homosexuals had no male friends when growing up. They only had girlfriends. Consequently, they started to look to males in a sexual manner. Maybe being surrounded by females causes them to lose all masculinity and develop a more female mindset. This could cause them to develop homosexual tendencies.
I believe that homosexuality could be treated by psychologists. They need help to resolve the issues that have caused the homosexual behaviour.
Homosexuality is a disorder; it is not normal and goes against the laws of nature. As such, I don’t believe that genetics play a role in human sexuality.
Homosexuality is a psychological disorder brought about by experiences in the formative years of childhood. I believe that homosexuals feel somewhat emasculated. During their adolescent years they looked up to other men as role models, and this may have brought about confused sexual feelings.
Many homosexuals lacked a strong male role model when growing up. They did not have a father figure to guide and teach them. I know homosexuals who were brought up in a feminine household with no male influences. I believe they are looking for the love and guidance they lacked during childhood; and consequently develop confused sexual desires for other men.
Another cause of homosexuality in some people is that they experienced rejection during childhood and adolescence, particularly by the opposite sex. A lot of teenagers who operate on the fringes of society feel rejected and lonely. They don’t have many friends and are often mistreated. In some instances, rejection by the oposite sex makes them feel unwanted and worthless. They subsequently avoid all interactions with the opposite sex. The only friends they have are male. They never experience acceptance by females and therefore develop sexual desires for the only people who show them affection - members of the same sex.
Some homosexuals felt rejected by other males during adolescence. Many homosexuals had no male friends when growing up. They only had girlfriends. Consequently, they started to look to males in a sexual manner. Maybe being surrounded by females causes them to lose all masculinity and develop a more female mindset. This could cause them to develop homosexual tendencies.
I believe that homosexuality could be treated by psychologists. They need help to resolve the issues that have caused the homosexual behaviour.
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bpbasilphx
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I do know that, contrary to certain propaganda, nobody chooses to be gay, any more than anyone chooses to be heterosexual.
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KingAlfred
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I respectfully disagree. I believe it’s ontological (of one’s being). It is disordered, however. Essentially, I believe what the Catholic Church teaches about it – that it’s disordered, but not to be condemned, and surmountable, spiritually speaking, if one abstains from indulging its passions. Gays must remain celibate, if they want salvation.
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Dempsey1919
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I refuse to believe a just and loving God would give people homosexual desires only to tell them that to act upon these desires is wrong. God wouldn’t create people in this way knowing the pain they will go through their entire lives as a result.
God created women to be the companions of men:
The correct way of life is for men and women to be together as one. It does not say that men should be together. This is not what God intended.
Homosexuality is condemned numerous times within Divine Revelation. God has revealed his condemnation of these practices.
God would never give people the desire to do things which he has deemed sinful. He does not give us sinful desires or thoughts.
Sinful desire is the result of the disobedience of our first parents, Adam and Eve. They are solely responsible for the fall of Man. God never willed for us to sin. He created us in an original state of grace. Humans have sinful desires and a flawed nature because of original sin.
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thistle
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There are absolutely zero genetic links. People are NOT born gay. That’s an excuse they use and as posters in other threads have said soon thieves, murderers etc will say they are born that way to justify what they are!!
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Dempsey1919
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Exactly right! Nobody is born a thief or a murderer or an adulterer. And nobody is born homosexual.
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KingAlfred
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I’m no expert, but I suspect Science is on the verge of proving homosexuality is biological.
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KingAlfred
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I believe it’s wrong of you to associate homosexuality with criminal behavior. You’re showing a distinct lack of charity here.
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Joe_5859
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If you’re not an expert, how can you be aware of a scientific discovery that even the scientists are not aware of yet? Sounds like a lot of blind faith in science.
(Sorry, just giving you a hard time 
)Honestly, though, from a moral standpoint, it simply does not matter whether it is biological or environmental or a combination of the two (or maybe it’s biological for some people, but environmental for others
).In any case, anyone with SSA, no matter how they came to have it, are not sinning simply be having the inclination. The sin is in the act. That, we know, is a choice.
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Dempsey1919
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Forgive me. I apologise if I have come across as judgemental and uncharitable. My intention was to show that no one is born with a predisposition towards any sinful behaviour, including homosexuality. Perhaps I should have chosen more similar sins as a comparison.
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JimR-OCDS
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Actually science is proving more and more that there is a biological link to homosexuality.
However, until science proves it one way or another, you’re statement isn’t valid, but based on a prejudice.
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Dempsey1919
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How is his statement based on prejudice?
He is simply saying that people are not born to commit sin. There is no biological link to adultery, masturbation, pedophilia, or homosexuality. These inclinations and behaviours are nurtured and learned during puberty and adolescence. There is no biological link to any sin.
Everytime an individual states clearly that homosexuality is a gravely disordered and sinful behaviour, others will call him a homophobe and state that he is prejudiced. This is wrong and unfair.
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Denae
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Okay homosexuality is not in itself a sin. Homosexual behavior is. There is a difference. People can be born gay, however they are called to chasity just like anyone else. It’s a cross that they have to bear like anyone else. Straight people are called to chasity as well. Unmarried heterosexuals having sex is a sin, just like homosexual behavior is a sin!
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JimR-OCDS
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BarbaraTherese
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But I say to the unmarried, and to the widows: It is good for them if they so continue, even as I. 9 But if they do not contain themselves, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to be burnt.
While upholding what The Church teaches, I feel compassion for homosexual people, since they can never marry. At least heterosexual people can. Homosexuality is a complex issue when one considers the human angle. They are called to lifelong Chastity whether they feel called to it or not.
Blessings and regards…Barb
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JimR-OCDS
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There is no doubt in my mind that homosexual acts go against nature, just as some forms of heterosexual acts do.
Anal copulation and oral sex, are not expressions of love, but self satisfaction, and are against the laws of nature.
Jim
Anal copulation and oral sex, are not expressions of love, but self satisfaction, and are against the laws of nature.
Jim
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Dempsey1919
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I also feel heartly sorry for those who must bear this cross. However, God is with them and he will grant them peace.
As I have stated previously, I believe this condition to be a psychological development that can be cured or at least controlled. Through living a faithful life and through frequent reception of the Sacraments, those with homosexual tendencies will be able to discern more clearly what God wills for their lives.
God has a purpose for these people. Despite the fact that they cannot marry and are not able to act out their sexual urges, these people will experience great joy and live very full lives providing they put God before all else. Only then will they realise what they are gaining by denying the desires of the flesh. They will realise that the pleasure derived from sinful behaviour is nothing compared to the love of God.
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