Why are people so hard to change?

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One would think that very effective communication is needed to build the GREAT world in which we live. But people everywhere seem to disagree and people are so tough to change. It’s like Babel! Something is wrong! How can the world grow so drastically and yet people remain so disagreeable?

The sense that we govern ourselves is an illusion. I believe our world is guided and governed by another upper world.

A bit of psychology: In studying the belief system of humans, we find beliefs to have both a vertical and horizontal structure. Change a belief along the horizontal structure and not much happens. An example of this would be the belief that teenagers are lazy. Alter this belief and not much happens to the structure as a whole. A couple can spend a lifetime proving and disproving things along the horizontal structure their whole life without much of an effect at all.

Not so the vertical structure of beliefs. Change a critical belief and the entire structure comes tumbling down. The structural ‘damage’ to the believe system from a tumbling vertical structure would include an atheist becoming a Christian for the first time. **There are beliefs along the vertical structure that can change for a population as a whole, where we would find ourselves with a revolution in beliefs. **
 
Robert_Sock said:
One would think that very effective communication is needed to build the GREAT world in which we live. But people everywhere seem to disagree and people are so tough to change. It’s like Babel! Something is wrong! How can the world grow so drastically and yet people remain so disagreeable?

The sense that we govern ourselves is an illusion. I believe our world is guided and governed by another upper world.

A bit of psychology: In studying the belief system of humans, we find beliefs to have both a vertical and horizontal structure. Change a belief along the horizontal structure and not much happens. An example of this would be the belief that teenagers are lazy. Alter this belief and not much happens to the structure as a whole. A couple can spend a lifetime proving and disproving things along the horizontal structure their whole life without much of an effect at all.

Not so the vertical structure of beliefs. Change a critical belief and the entire structure comes tumbling down. The structural ‘damage’ to the believe system from a tumbling vertical structure would include an atheist becoming a Christian for the first time. **There are beliefs along the vertical structure that can change for a population as a whole, where we would find ourselves with a revolution in beliefs. **
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I agree with your last observation- the beliefs of society as a whole can change. For example, we are now permeated by what I would call atomism (the world-view of Epictetus, Lucretius, etc.).

Even Christians, for example, who articulate a more Platonic understanding of reality- such an articulation always happens (in the Western world) as a conscious or unconscious ‘contradiction’ of the assumed view.
 
Robert_Sock said:
One would think that very effective communication is needed to build the GREAT world in which we live. But people everywhere seem to disagree and people are so tough to change. It’s like Babel! Something is wrong! How can the world grow so drastically and yet people remain so disagreeable?

The sense that we govern ourselves is an illusion. I believe our world is guided and governed by another upper world.

A bit of psychology: In studying the belief system of humans, we find beliefs to have both a vertical and horizontal structure. Change a belief along the horizontal structure and not much happens. An example of this would be the belief that teenagers are lazy. Alter this belief and not much happens to the structure as a whole. A couple can spend a lifetime proving and disproving things along the horizontal structure their whole life without much of an effect at all.

Not so the vertical structure of beliefs. Change a critical belief and the entire structure comes tumbling down. The structural ‘damage’ to the believe system from a tumbling vertical structure would include an atheist becoming a Christian for the first time. **There are beliefs along the vertical structure that can change for a population as a whole, where we would find ourselves with a revolution in beliefs. **
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vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM Catechism of the Catholic Church. Read it.
 
davidv said:
What is this “upper-world” and how does it guide and govern?
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Consider the following:

How did our society evolve over the past 150 years without God and an upper world?

Take notice of the great societal changes that took place over the past 150 years. Mass produced electricity, cars, planes, computers, cell phones and large cities across the world. Next ask who has the innate wit to mass produce simple boxes of toothpicks? Do you think a dozen top university professors could develop an effective method on their own? There would probably be more arguing than anything else. Now, consider our mass producing light bulbs, computer chips, cell phones, medical devices and everything else found in our society today. Again, do any of us have the innate wit to figure out how to mass produce these things? Can the field of earthly engineering account for the technological advances over the past 150 years? Consider, for example, that designing computer chips is really quite easy in comparison to designing and building the machinery and tools needed to mass produce the chips.

Indeed, there must be a God and an upper world of existence that is capable of producing and advancing the technology in our world today. In Judaism it is stated that God created several hierarchal worlds, with our world being the absolute lowest.
 
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