Why Are People So Scared of Syrian Refugees?

[Divine3]

youtube.com/watch?v=_uSYONGl95Q
Our Middle Eastern Christians who are being killed daily by evil, ignorant, minded Islamic terrorists are not being killed in stadiums, or Pizza Parlors, or at concert halls but are slaughtered in their own homes, slaughtered as they courageously attend mass. The killing of those in Paris was evil but look at the killings of people just wanting the freedom to have their homes, their country and their right to freedom of religion in their countries. This video above tells it all. Obama sits back and does nothing – we get the leaders we deserve as a nation. He has destroyed our Nation but we voted him in. If the Republicans will not support immigration then I will have to write in a name for voting. I will never vote for communist Hillary Clinton but will not vote for republicans who care little for refugees fleeing from this evil and we have let in thousands of Muslims before the first Gulf War. How many of these Muslims are truly peaceful we will have to wait and see.

 

[Divine3]

youtube.com/watch?v=NQrLFnb40Io This is why they leave looking for someplace safe. If you really care and have a few seconds LISTEN to this video – it might help ease ignorance

 

[HCTC]

How courageous are the French people! Even in the midst of great loss, they are nurturing the joyfulness and goodness of their lives; and they are still going to accept thousands of Syrian refugees. Although they are under attack from a hateful, violent, hopeless and criminal element, through word and through everyday deeds the French people continue to reassure their children that their peaceful, loving, respectful, hopeful culture will persevere.

By the Grace of God, the French people are setting an example for the world about how to deny these hate-filled criminals any victory. I can only hope that in “the land of the free and the home of brave” we will be able to devise a more administratively reasonable process for admitting Syrian and Iraqi refugees than the one currently under consideration by Congress which requires the FBI director to certify personally the background investigation for each Syrian or Iraqi refugee admitted to the United States and requires Homeland Security and intelligence officials to certify personally that they are not security threats.

 

[Son_of_Niall]

:tsktsk:

bustle.com/articles/124960-actual-statistics-on-syrian-refugees-gender-age-prove-that-ben-carson-is-totally-wrong

newsy.com/videos/no-most-syrian-refugees-aren-t-fighting-age-men/

 

[StGerardMajella]

But what a lot of people seem to miss is that we already DO have a tough security process for refugees - though you wouldn’t know this from hearing some Republicans talk.

How do you plan on running criminal background checks on Syrian refugees? Do you actually think the Syrian government is going to provide the criminal history of an ISIS terrorist infiltrator?

How about a simple credit check? Do you think the Syrian government can provide the credit history of these refugees?

How about fingerprints? Do you think the Syrian government is going to provide matching fingerprint database information from local Syrian police precincts?

How exactly are you planning to “vet” these refugees if you have no mechanism for conducting background checks? Are you going to make the refugees take lie detector tests?

ISIS has made it crystal clear that they will use the refugee crisis to infiltrate the West. I don’t know how stupid we would have to be to let potential terrorists into our country, but nothing should cease to amaze us anymore.

Many Democrats, most Republicans, more than half of the U.S. governors, and all of the top U.S. intelligence officials agree that we need to take a step back and reconsider our plans before we allow terrorists to enter our country via refugee immigration. It’s bad enough that we already have 900 some investigations into ISIS activity in this country.

We all agree that for legitimate refugees, we should welcome them with open arms. That’s not the issue. The issue is the screening process to determine which refugees are legitimate, and which are ISIS terrorists. We have no way of knowing.

 

[friardchips]

You confuse fear with caution.

To not offer abode to people fleeing from terror is inhumane to those refugees and to not vet to some degree soldier-aged single men is inhumane towards western natives - a little sensible perspective can go a miraculously long way.

 

[openmind77]

To not offer abode to people fleeing from terror is inhumane to those refugees and to not vet to some degree soldier-aged single men is inhumane towards western natives - a little sensible perspective can go a miraculously long way.

18 to 24 months of vetting (which is the normal time now) seems plenty to me. Those who are not satisfied with 24 months of vetting, probably never wanted to let those refugees enter in the first place and are just looking for an excuse to get rid of them

 

[KathleenGee]

Just reading this pm…yes…terrorists are indeed coming through our borders…they apprehended some…and we know they are here…

 

[jcwit]

18 to 24 months of vetting (which is the normal time now) seems plenty to me. Those who are not satisfied with 24 months of vetting, probably never wanted to let those refugees enter in the first place and are just looking for an excuse to get rid of them

YUP! We sure did a good job of vetting the Fort Hood shooter, all the way up to being an Officer.

I will add this, I live in a small town in the Midwest, population of less than 4,000 folks, not likely a terrorist target, plus I’m in my 70’s and not likely to be around long enough to see the results of this folly.

 

[openmind77]

YUP! We sure did a good job of vetting the Fort Hood shooter, all the way up to being an Officer.

I will add this, I live in a small town in the Midwest, population of less than 4,000 folks, not likely a terrorist target, plus I’m in my 70’s and not likely to be around long enough to see the results of this folly.

I believe the Fort Hood Shooter was born in the US - did you want him to be ‘vetted’ in the womb or something?

There are a lot of crazy people in the US with access to guns - they don’t need to be in the army to have lots of fire power. They are far more dangerous than these refugees.

 

[jcwit]

I believe the Fort Hood Shooter was born in the US - did you want him to be ‘vetted’ in the womb or something?

There are a lot of crazy people in the US with access to guns - they don’t need to be in the army to have lots of fire power. They are far more dangerous than these refugees.

Doesn’t make any difference where he was born. I too was born in the U.S.A., Indiana, I held a Top Secret Clearance, and because of that very issue I was vetted, very heavily in fact. He was also, being as he was an officer, didn’t work well in his case did it.

And in regards to your last statement, just what do you base that on? Your opinion? If so it means little.

 

[jcwit]

[QUOTEThere are a lot of crazy people in the US with access to guns - they don’t need to be in the army to have lots of fire power. They are far more dangerous than these refugees. ]

Are you referring to the Mexican national who was here in the U.S. illegally that shot the young woman that died in her fathers arms in California, that no official in San Francisco will do anything about.

 

[KathleenGee]

The American people voted this administration in, but didn’t realize how Far Left and – lying they were.

They are beholden to George Soros.

Our country needs to rise up together for once…our breakdown within a set up in itself waiting to happen by leftists in universities 40 years ago…and our kids brainwashed to believe so many narratives now…

Soros has gone so far to set up a ‘conservative front’…that isn’t, encouraging the public to let Syrians in.

I just read today about how the Polish Catholic community in Hamtrack, Michigan has to listen to the minaret blaring …

We need to get back to praying the Angelus at noon with church bells.

 

[HCTC]

The American people voted this administration in, but didn’t realize how Far Left and – lying they were.

They are beholden to George Soros.

Our country needs to rise up together for once…our breakdown within a set up in itself waiting to happen by leftists in universities 40 years ago…and our kids brainwashed to believe so many narratives now…

Soros has gone so far to set up a ‘conservative front’…that isn’t, encouraging the public to let Syrians in.

I just read today about how the Polish Catholic community in Hamtrack, Michigan has to listen to the minaret blaring …

We need to get back to praying the Angelus at noon with church bells.

Who is George Soros?

“George Soros survived the Nazi-occupation of Hungary and fled the communist regime as a teenager. He worked as a railway porter and waiter in London” (as well as a traveling salesman in Wales) “before becoming the world’s richest hedge fund manager…”

He is a philanthropist who has donated over 11 billion dollars (1979-2015) in support of a diverse variety of causes.

Number 16 on the Forbes 400 list
Scores 10 (out of 10) on Forbes’ self-made scale
Net worth 24.5 billion (2015)
He is 85 years old.

"Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary. When Jewish children were barred from attending school by the Nazis, Soros and the other Jewish schoolchildren were made to report to the Jewish Council, which had been established during the occupation. Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis:

‘The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper… It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m… And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, "You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported.’

"Soros did not return to that job and went into hiding the next day. Later that year, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. The next year, 1945, Soros survived the Battle of Budapest.

"In 1947 Soros emigrated to England and became an impoverished student at the London School of Economic. While a student, Soros worked as a railway porter and as a waiter. A university tutor requested aid for Soros, and he received £40 from a Religious Society of Friends (Quaker) charity.

"After graduating from the London School of Economic (B.Sc., Ph.D.), Soros found it difficult to get work, and settled for a job as a traveling salesman for a fancy-goods wholesaler selling to retailers in Welsh seaside resorts. He described this period as the ‘low point of my life’, and wrote letters to a number of merchant banks requesting interviews. Many of these ignored him, and others humiliated him in the interviews. He credits his first job in finance at Singer and Friedlander to the fact that the managing director was a fellow Hungarian.

“According to Waldemar A. Nielsen, an authority on American philanthropy, ‘[Soros] has undertaken … nothing less than to open up the once-closed communist societies of Eastern Europe to a free flow of ideas and scientific knowledge from the outside world.’ From 1979, as an advocate of ‘open societies’ Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland’s Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union. In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary with a budget of $3 million.”

This is a man who has an experiential understanding of oppression, Fascism, and what it means to be a refugee. In my humble opinion, George Soros has “put his money where his mouth is” to promote freedom and justice throughout the world for years.

 

[JonNC]

ISTM that it might be more inhumane to bring Syrian refugees into the Untied States, into a culture that is completely alien to them. It would be far more humane to finance their settling in predominantly Muslim countries near by. They will be far more comfortable with the culture, and closer to Syria should they choose to return home following the conflict.
Finally, American dollars used on this effort would be far better spent providing supplies for living, as opposed to spending huge numbers of dollars on transportation.

Jon

 

[badnewsbarrett]

Why are people so afraid of Syrian refugees? Because they are buying into a narrative that ISIS/ISIL/Daesh is selling, and are perhaps not very aware of some of the basic facts concerning what’s happened.

This is the narrative. An extremely high, non-random percentage of Syrian refugees are young men. (This is anywhere from highly questionable to effectively debunked). The terror group sent their people from Syria through Europe so they could carry out a series of attacks, in order to turn the people of Europe against each other and foment further violence, maybe even up to the level of a civil war or intifada or some such thing.

This is what actually happened. One of the attackers is verified as being a Syria refugee that made his way across Europe. There is another one who’s a maybe, it’s difficult to sort out since false identities were being used. What we do know is that nearly all of those involved including most especially the men in charge were mostly from Belgium and/or France. They were in Europe already, they certainly sympathize and work with ISIS but they were never in Syria. More to the point, they absolutely could have carried this out without any help from migrants that came from Syria.

They chose to involve one or two migrants from Syria in order to push this narrative, which is basically that white people shouldn’t trust, assist, or attempt to assimilate any of these Muslims that have been dispossessed of their land and become refugees.

This is an article from The Guardian that gives a lot more in the way of specific details about Belgium, about its strategic importance, and exactly why it is that one particular district causes this country to be the biggest per capita contributor in terms of ISIS recruitment in Europe.
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/17/terrorists-belgium-paris-attacks
And here’s another article about that area.
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/17/molenbeek-jihadi-isis-belgian-paris-attacks-belgium
Written by someone who’s from there.

People mistakenly believe that there is a one to one correspondence between these particular refugees and an imminent terror attack. The truth is more complex. ISIS would very much like to create that connection and it looks like they are working on orchestrating events so that many of the people escaping them will have nowhere to go. Even if certain countries don’t take in refugees right now though, ISIS is more than capable of attacking whoever they want to attack using people already in or near the target country. This can happen with or without a large number of refugees, and in the medium term, there will in fact be countries that take lots of refugees but don’t get attacked because they escape any sort of strategic importance. There will also be countries that don’t take many or any refugees that do wind up getting attacked because a plan was getting locked in long before that decision was made.

 

[jcwit]

Regarding George Soros, yes he survived the Nazi occupation during WW 2. He accomplished that feat by being a Nazi collaborator, turning in his fellow Jewish neighbors.

 

[badnewsbarrett]

I do have one other comment to add for the record.

If France continues to take in a large number of refugees and the US backs off of that because of what happened to Them, I do believe that officially means we have to give the Statue of Liberty back to France. They can go right ahead and repo that lovely lady, because they would have every right to.

 

[JonNC]

=badnewsbarrett;13456648]Why are people so afraid of Syrian refugees? Because they are buying into a narrative that ISIS/ISIL/Daesh is selling, and are perhaps not very aware of some of the basic facts concerning what’s happened.

This is the narrative. An extremely high, non-random percentage of Syrian refugees are young men. (This is anywhere from highly questionable to effectively debunked). The terror group sent their people from Syria through Europe so they could carry out a series of attacks, in order to turn the people of Europe against each other and foment further violence, maybe even up to the level of a civil war or intifada or some such thing.

That’s not exactly what a Hijrah is.

This is what actually happened. One of the attackers is verified as being a Syria refugee that made his way across Europe. There is another one who’s a maybe, it’s difficult to sort out since false identities were being used. What we do know is that nearly all of those involved including most especially the men in charge were mostly from Belgium and/or France. They were in Europe already, they certainly sympathize and work with ISIS but they were never in Syria. More to the point, they absolutely could have carried this out without any help from migrants that came from Syria.

I don’t think where the Islamic radicals came from is in dispute.

They chose to involve one or two migrants from Syria in order to push this narrative, which is basically that white people shouldn’t trust, assist, or attempt to assimilate any of these Muslims that have been dispossessed of their land and become refugees.

It has nothing to do with race. We are not talking about white people against another race of people.

People mistakenly believe that there is a one to one correspondence between these particular refugees and an imminent terror attack. The truth is more complex. ISIS would very much like to create that connection and it looks like they are working on orchestrating events so that many of the people escaping them will have nowhere to go. Even if certain countries don’t take in refugees right now though, ISIS is more than capable of attacking whoever they want to attack using people already in or near the target country. This can happen with or without a large number of refugees, and in the medium term, there will in fact be countries that take lots of refugees but don’t get attacked because they escape any sort of strategic importance. There will also be countries that don’t take many or any refugees that do wind up getting attacked because a plan was getting locked in long before that decision was made.

The danger of Hijrah is much greater than simply terrorist attacks from Islamic radicals.

Jon

 

[jcwit]

They chose to involve one or two migrants from Syria in order to push this narrative, which is basically that white people shouldn’t trust, assist, or attempt to assimilate any of these Muslims that have been dispossessed of their land and become refugees.

Since when is being a Muslim a race? I thought it was a religion.