Why are Protestants so Anti-Catholic?

[mercygate]

well, because catholics entrust their prayers to mary and not solely to God, because the catholic church plays politics in God’s name when Jesus’ kingdom is not of this world and His servants don’t fight for him. Because the catholic church turned a blind eye to murder of heretics, and schismatics. because the teaching has changed according to the amount of political power the church wields being harsh towards jews, pagans, and protestants in earlier times and more conciliatory now. because the church prevented the commoner from reading or hearing the scripture’s in their own language, because the church does not crack down on pediphile priests, because the church in the catechism gives bad advice on mixed marriage with an unbeliever conflicting the tradition of the apostle paul. because the catholic church has done much to offend against christ by its racism and intolerance, because we have personally been offended by catholics we know, because the catholics we meet do not live holy lifestyles except a religious devotion to rituals, because catholics worship a corruptable piece of bread and wine in a container made with hands as though it were God Himself. that is how the catholic church looks to a protestant from the outside. I know it sounds bad, but you asked.

Yup. Heard it all. Hope you come inside and see how different the view is.

Hillair Belloc once said that looking at the Catholic faith from outside the Church is like looking at the windows of Chartres Cathedral by matchlight on a moonless night. It’s impossible to see why anybody would think they were beautiful.

 

[Stephen_C]

well, because catholics entrust their prayers to mary and not solely to God, because the catholic church plays politics in God’s name when Jesus’ kingdom is not of this world and His servants don’t fight for him. Because the catholic church turned a blind eye to murder of heretics, and schismatics. because the teaching has changed according to the amount of political power the church wields being harsh towards jews, pagans, and protestants in earlier times and more conciliatory now. because the church prevented the commoner from reading or hearing the scripture’s in their own language, because the church does not crack down on pediphile priests, because the church in the catechism gives bad advice on mixed marriage with an unbeliever conflicting the tradition of the apostle paul. because the catholic church has done much to offend against christ by its racism and intolerance, because we have personally been offended by catholics we know, because the catholics we meet do not live holy lifestyles except a religious devotion to rituals, because catholics worship a corruptable piece of bread and wine in a container made with hands as though it were God Himself. that is how the catholic church looks to a protestant from the outside. I know it sounds bad, but you asked.

My reply to your post…

Boy you got us figured out…who told you all this? You have to be a Catholic to know all this…did you find a Papist decoder ring by chance? There is a name ingraved on the inside of that ring…could you kindly make sure that person get’s his/her decoder ring back.

Thanks,
Stephen
Papist Decoder Ring Customer Care
USA Division.

This was not very charitable of me…Sorry…I do hope though this is not how you view the Catholic Church.

God Bless,
Stephen

 

[estesbob]

Boy you got us figured out…who told you all this? You have to be a Catholic to know all this…did you find a Papist decoder ring by chance? There is a name ingraved on the inside of that ring…could you kindly make sure that person get’s his/her decoder ring back.

Thanks,
Stephen
Papist Decoder Ring Customer Care
USA Division.

You can find your copy of the Decoder ring here:

scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

 

[Stephen_C]

You can find your copy of the Decoder ring here:

scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

yep…the best decoder ring of them all! Got a copy already. Again I sould not have posted like I did …Maybe a Mod will delete it.

 

[estesbob]

yep…the best decoder ring of them all! Got a copy already. Again I sould not have posted like I did …Maybe a Mod will delete it.

If you want one of your posts deleted just hit the red triangle in the right corner and tell the moderator its your post and you want it deleted…

 

[St_Violet]

like what Martin Sheen said

“The Catholic Church is most widely known and most least understood” - National Geograhpic, Inside the Vatican ( don’t know which volume)

 

[estesbob]

like what Martin Sheen said

“The Catholic Church is most widely known and most least understood” - National Geograhpic, Inside the Vatican ( don’t know which volume)

Sheen unfortunatley,is one of those who misunderstand it.

 

[St_Violet]

Sheen unfortunatley,is one of those who misunderstand it.

probably, but he just happens to be the narrator, but it was an interesting documentry, it covered the Swiss Guards, how the ATMS are in Latin, how it has it’s own law enforcement, the paintings all over the walls, etc etc.

 

[Grace_Seeker]

Why are Protestants who have bias against the Catholic Church so Anti-Catholic. There are numerous Non-Catholic Members here who are extremely Anti-Catholic. I won’t mention their names.

When one begins a question with the assumption that your question does that Protestants have a bias against the Catholic Church, and the way you pose the question can be read that you find all who are Protestant to fit the description as having bias against the Catholic Church, then, whether you intend it or not, you are provoking an anti-Catholic reaction. Thus it becomes sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But if instead you would ask, given all the Protestants, why among those who are truly biased against the Catholic Church (and thus allowing the possibility that it is only a few that are biased against the Catholic Church) that they are anti-Catholic I think you could see the answer within the question itself. One who is biased against something is going to be anti- that which they are biased against.

For myself, I think the incidence of bias against the Catholic Church is relatively small in the real world. There does seem to be a lot of Catholic Vs. Protestant action on this board. I’m hoping that is an anomally unique to this board. As I don’t experience it in my daily life I would have to explain it that:

1. the nature of forum conversations brings out contentious behavior in people
2. I live in a many small subsets of the world that have all happened to be more Protestant than Catholic, and in those circumstances Protestants and Catholics get along (perhaps by us Protestants being insensitive to Catholic issues).
3. In the real world where there are more Catholics than Protestants, that the two groups don’t actually get along (perhaps by Catholics being insensitive to Protestant issues).

 

[Grace_Seeker]

I think for the most part it is sincere zeal, albeit misdirected.
they are still our brothers. and they feel that they NEED to ‘save’ us from ourselves.
What have you used to de-fuse the situation with friends and family?
Ravyn

Actually, I am a Protestant and have never felt the need to save someone who is already a Chrsitian from anything, accept sometimes abuses of logic.

I am glad to see that you have labelled protestants as “still [y]our brothers”. I have not experienced this to be the overall state of affairs on this forum. In the few threads that I have participated in, I usually find statements suggesting not that I am a brother, but to remind me (often in the form of accusation) that I am at best separated brethern, and somehow not truly worthy to bear the name of Christ. That is enough to get some anti-Catholic sentiment stirred in me that I never experienced before arriving here. Rarely is that seen as something that Catholics need to repent of, but as my problem as I chose to protest some 500 years ago.

I have seen where the Holy See has expressed regret over its part in some of the past inflammatory conversations with Protestants. And I’ve never really experienced it from flesh and blood Catholics, but those the majority of those Catholics I’ve met in this virtual world have a completely different way of relating to Protestants and if I had ever had hopes that we might be able to patch up our differences, they have been dashed by those whom I have met in my short time here.

 

[GOP]

To go against Catholic teaching is, by definition, to be anti-Catholic. A Catholic is the living embodiment of the theology, doctrine and dogma of the kata holos church that Christ established.

That you maintain that Catholic teachings go against the Bible shows you have far yet to go in your understanding of the Catholic views of Scripture, Apostolic Tradition and Magisterium.

I would maintain it is you who “go against the Bible,” not Catholics.

Is that so?

 

[GOP]

Give an example! Don’t throw comments out unless you can back it up.

And just what do I need to back up?

 

[mcs7474]

I would say 95% of everyone I have ever talked to about religion has a dislike for the Church. They do not attack me with accusations or are hostile, but I can tell most dislike the church. I have also noticed that even though many dont agree with the church and also dislike it, more and more protestants it seems accept the CC as a valid christian “denomintaion”, and a valid way to get to heaven, but just barely. But thats what it looks like im my area of the world

 

[lak611]

I would say 95% of everyone I have ever talked to about religion has a dislike for the Church. They do not attack me with accusations or are hostile, but I can tell most dislike the church. I have also noticed that even though many dont agree with the church and also dislike it, more and more protestants it seems accept the CC as a valid christian “denomintaion”, and a valid way to get to heaven, but just barely. But thats what it looks like im my area of the world

From my experiences, it is more like 95% of Protestants do not dislike the Catholic Church, only 5% do. However, 95% of ex-Catholics dislike the Catholic Church.

 

[truthnlight]

Baptists did not come out of the Reformation Movement. Baptists came through the Reformation period. Those denominations who trace their roots to the Reformation are considered Protestant because they were a part of the “Protest” movement against the Roman Catholic institution as members. The Baptist churches were never out of nor a part of the Roman Catholic religion. Members of Baptist churches have been Catholic but the churches have not.

Historians have written of this fact, "…New Testament or apostolic churches were the ones that existed in the First Century. That they were Baptist is proved in their doctrine and practice. Every doctrine of Baptists is found in the New Testament. Histories by such non-Baptists as Mishiem (Lutheran), Schaff (Lutheran), Ridpath (Methodist), Beza (Presbyterian), and others prove that the Christians of the First Century were Baptist. Ridpath even states boldly, "In the year 100 all Christians were Baptist.

 

[lak611]

Baptists did not come out of the Reformation Movement. Baptists came through the Reformation period. Those denominations who trace their roots to the Reformation are considered Protestant because they were a part of the “Protest” movement against the Roman Catholic institution as members. The Baptist churches were never out of nor a part of the Roman Catholic religion. Members of Baptist churches have been Catholic but the churches have not.

Historians have written of this fact, "…New Testament or apostolic churches were the ones that existed in the First Century. That they were Baptist is proved in their doctrine and practice. Every doctrine of Baptists is found in the New Testament. Histories by such non-Baptists as Mishiem (Lutheran), Schaff (Lutheran), Ridpath (Methodist), Beza (Presbyterian), and others prove that the Christians of the First Century were Baptist. Ridpath even states boldly, "In the year 100 all Christians were Baptist.

Do you have documentation to show this? What is your source? IOW, please tell us which book authored by Ridpath this is from or please provide a link.

 

[mercygate]

Baptists did not come out of the Reformation Movement. Baptists came through the Reformation period. Those denominations who trace their roots to the Reformation are considered Protestant because they were a part of the “Protest” movement against the Roman Catholic institution as members. The Baptist churches were never out of nor a part of the Roman Catholic religion. Members of Baptist churches have been Catholic but the churches have not.

Historians have written of this fact, "…New Testament or apostolic churches were the ones that existed in the First Century. That they were Baptist is proved in their doctrine and practice. Every doctrine of Baptists is found in the New Testament. Histories by such non-Baptists as Mishiem (Lutheran), Schaff (Lutheran), Ridpath (Methodist), Beza (Presbyterian), and others prove that the Christians of the First Century were Baptist. Ridpath even states boldly, "In the year 100 all Christians were Baptist.

Darlin’, even Baptists don’t believe this! Be a Baptist if that is your bent, but please don’t hang your claim to authenticity on this kind of flummery.

 

[estesbob]

Baptists did not come out of the Reformation Movement. Baptists came through the Reformation period. Those denominations who trace their roots to the Reformation are considered Protestant because they were a part of the “Protest” movement against the Roman Catholic institution as members. The Baptist churches were never out of nor a part of the Roman Catholic religion. Members of Baptist churches have been Catholic but the churches have not.

Historians have written of this fact, "…New Testament or apostolic churches were the ones that existed in the First Century. That they were Baptist is proved in their doctrine and practice. Every doctrine of Baptists is found in the New Testament. Histories by such non-Baptists as Mishiem (Lutheran), Schaff (Lutheran), Ridpath (Methodist), Beza (Presbyterian), and others prove that the Christians of the First Century were Baptist. Ridpath even states boldly, "In the year 100 all Christians were Baptist.

Nonsense.

 

[Grace_Seeker]

That doesn’t seem any more nonsense than those who say that in the year 100 AD all Christians were Catholics?

Both are true statements depending on your definition of what it means to be either Catholic or Baptist. However, in my opinion, what is existant today is not as connected, in either case, as those who use those statements would like to think that they are.

 

[Harpazo]

That doesn’t seem any more nonsense than those who say that in the year 100 AD all Christians were Catholics?

Both are true statements depending on your definition of what it means to be either Catholic or Baptist. However, in my opinion, what is existant today is not as connected, in either case, as those who use those statements would like to think that they are.

**
Ignatius of Antioch**

Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as you would the apostles; give your deacons the same reverence that you would to a command of God. Make sure that no step affecting the Church is ever taken by anyone without the bishop’s sanction. The sole Eucharist you should consider valid is one that is celebrated by the bishop himself, or by some person authorized by him. Where the bishop is to be seen, there let all his people be; just as, wherever Jesus Christ is present, there is the Catholic Church (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).

Do Baptists believe in the Eucharist as the body and blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ? The Early Christians did. Do they accept infant baptism as valid? The Early Christians did. Do they look to Bishops as authoritative leaders for the Faith? The Early Christians did. I think I’ll take my chances and go with the early Christians being Catholic.

In Pax Christi
Andrew