Why are so many Muslims violent?

[jakasaki]

it started to post an interesting video about 2 nuns who converted to islam,what about you? to discuss islam? there are many islamis forums,i think you are a fake atheist

Whoa!!!

I belong to an islamic forum board and besides covering issues and threads on islam,they have several subsections for Judaism,Chritianity and et al

There are tons of Atheists on that islamic forum and in each and every subsection.

Why are they there?

Have you ever browsed Yahoo Answers Religion & Spiriality forum or the Islamic forum?

It’s filled with Atheists!

Why are they there?

 

[bosnian_muslim]

Whoa!!!

I belong to an islamic forum board and besides covering issues and threads on islam,they have several subsections for Judaism,Chritianity and et al

There are tons of Atheists on that islamic forum and in each and every subsection.

Why are they there?

Have you ever browsed Yahoo Answers Religion & Spiriality forum or the Islamic forum?

It’s filled with Atheists!

Why are they there?

to discuss! its mostly atheists from a muslim background,and thats normal…but this “atheist” is here on a catholic forum,and is only talking about islam…and as you sure know,most atheist,real atheist,critize their “native” religion mainly…not some others (like this one).That makes me doubt in his atheism,im sure he has a lot of christianity in his heart

 

[jakasaki]

to discuss! its mostly atheists from a muslim background,and thats normal…but this “atheist” is here on a catholic forum,and is only talking about islam…and as you sure know,most atheist,real atheist,critize their “native” religion mainly…not some others (like this one).That makes me doubt in his atheism,im sure he has a lot of christianity in his heart

Well, if he sticks around longer maybe we can convert him to Christianity and show him the path to Christ.

He, (staffsgt) is not the only Atheist who is against islam.

Many are against all religions and many are just right down hateful towards islam and muslims, and many are down right hateful of Christians.

This member, (staffsgt) is not the first Atheist I’ve seen post in this manner. Many do!

Perhaps you might want to venture out on the web more often.

 

[KathleenGee]

I met a Serbian Orthodox this last winter.

We acknowledged how the Muslims came in to take over the land of the Orthodox, committed atrocities against the Church of St. Sophia…various streets in the city of Constantinople filled with blood you could wade in.

This lady came from Bosnia…I saw Muslims desecrating an Orthodox Church in Kosovo, originally a Serbian region. These fellows crawled up to the top of the church, stood on the cross and rocked it back and forth until it finally broke and fell to the ground, the crowd cheering…this was just back in 2005.

We recalled our local newspaper relaying the events of Serbia in the 1500’s…where the Muslim Turks impaled the resistence soldiers through the mouth with a stake that travelled through the body and out, and then staked on the roads as a warning to others not to oppose Turkish Muslim rule.

Under Tito, people could not criticize the government. The Serbs and Muslims did not attend their religious associations. If you did, you would not get advancement in your career. Only the Catholic Croats attended weekly Mass, and did not get the material advancements as the others.

Once they had freedom of speech, people began to criticize others and wanted to be separate. So then we had the war in Bosnia.

I also saw on You Tube the burning of Smyrna around the year 1922 by the Muslim Turks, an ancient Christian city with much Biblical history. The people and town was burned to the ground…as American warships stood by doing nothing. On YouTube, various Greeks commented with much suffering. A Turk then came on and said it was the Greeks who killed the people of Smyrna…and they were afflicted and addressed that man’s inhumanity.

My friend lives in Andria, Italy, and at the coast stands Cathedral of Trani are 800 skulls of Catholic men who refused to submit to Islam in the 1580’s…the people remember them always.

Now the Pakistani Christians are crying out to be treated humanely.

God cannot be mocked forever.

I think Muslims need to practice their own religion better, according to the claims they make here on how benevolent it is…consider how they gained entry into other countries, admit what they did to the inhabitants, and today not to tease or torment them.

 

[bosnian_muslim]

Well i know what most atheist think-all religions are bad,but they concentrate on the religion they come from,so an atheist from a christian background critizises mostly christianity,an atheist from a muslim background critizises mostly islam etc…everythnig else is a bit wierd,or the atheist maybe is a nationalsocialist,or a rascist or something like that.Or he is lying about his atheism?

good luck in converting him

 

[bosnian_muslim]

I met a Serbian Orthodox this last winter.

We acknowledged how the Muslims came in to take over the land of the Orthodox, committed atrocities against the Church of St. Sophia…various streets in the city of Constantinople filled with blood you could wade in.

This lady came from Bosnia…I saw Muslims desecrating an Orthodox Church in Kosovo, originally a Serbian region. These fellows crawled up to the top of the church, stood on the cross and rocked it back and forth until it finally broke and fell to the ground, the crowd cheering…this was just back in 2005.

We recalled our local newspaper relaying the events of Serbia in the 1500’s…where the Muslim Turks impaled the resistence soldiers through the mouth with a stake that travelled through the body and out, and then staked on the roads as a warning to others not to oppose Turkish Muslim rule.

Under Tito, people could not criticize the government. The Serbs and Muslims did not attend their religious associations. If you did, you would not get advancement in your career. Only the Catholic Croats attended weekly Mass, and did not get the material advancements as the others.

Once they had freedom of speech, people began to criticize others and wanted to be separate. So then we had the war in Bosnia.

I also saw on You Tube the burning of Smyrna around the year 1922 by the Muslim Turks, an ancient Christian city with much Biblical history. The people and town was burned to the ground…as American warships stood by doing nothing. On YouTube, various Greeks commented with much suffering. A Turk then came on and said it was the Greeks who killed the people of Smyrna…and they were afflicted and addressed that man’s inhumanity.

My friend lives in Andria, Italy, and at the coast stands Cathedral of Trani are 800 skulls of Catholic men who refused to submit to Islam in the 1580’s…the people remember them always.

Now the Pakistani Christians are crying out to be treated humanely.

God cannot be mocked forever.

I think Muslims need to practice their own religion better, according to the claims they make here on how benevolent it is…consider how they gained entry into other countries, admit what they did to the inhabitants, and today not to tease or torment them.

Did the serbian woman tell you anything about SREBRENICA? if not,google it!! did she tell you how many mosques and catholic churches were burnt by the serbian army? how many catholic nuns killed and raped? you should read about the war in Bosnia! the war was mostly lead by the serbians(orthodox people)

 

[jakasaki]

Well i know what most atheist think-all religions are bad,but they concentrate on the religion they come from,so an atheist from a christian background critizises mostly christianity,an atheist from a muslim background critizises mostly islam etc…everythnig else is a bit wierd,or the atheist maybe is a nationalsocialist,or a rascist or something like that.Or he is lying about his atheism?

good luck in converting him

Hmmmm - islam is not a race - muslim is not a race - therefore this Atheist is not racist.

Well, look at Byzantine Wolf - he was an Atheist, converted to islam until he found the truth in Christianity.

Good day muslim sister. Enjoy your Saturday. I will no longer participate in conversations regarding the member staffsgt.

Do you have any contributions to the thread topic at hand?

Re: Why are so many Muslims violent?

 

[dzheremi]

Jharek is right. No side was innocent in the war. I don’t see our Bosnian Muslim friend expressing any outrage over the massacre at Grabovica, in which Croats were the victims, or the massacre in Krizancevo selo when the Bosnian army and mujahideen (including foreign terrorists) killed Croat civilians and POWs.

Enough with the crocodile tears already.

 

[Jehoshua]

I think we can agree that in the lunacy of the Dissolution of Yugosalvia, no side was innocent and all were guilty. Atrocities were commited on all sides.

 

[KathleenGee]

Yes, I know all about the atrocities committed by the Serbs towards the Croatian people and Muslims…

My point was that the Balkans were Christian, both Croatian and Serbs…and it was the Croatians who remained faithful in going to church whereas the others did not attend until the fall of communism. The openness also brought out alot of bitterness and old rivalries returned.

There is something wrong with religion there in that people returned to ancient hatreds.

 

[KathleenGee]

And I was also referring to post 286 of calling another class of people by a name they choose not to accept, because of the suffering brought to them by others…how about the Muslim child tax in Bosnia…

Where the oldest and/or brightest son of a Christian family must be handed over to Islam to be raised and to serve its cause? This is evil. It is no wonder they don’t want to be called Bosnians.

There is alot of need for non-Muslims to voice their grievances over the deaths and destruction, the enslavement and stealing of their own children. If someone took my child from me, who I wish to be raised to love, serve God and to do His will, to be raised in something that considers me inferior…for a child to then look back at its own mother as dhimmi…how inhumane.

 

[staffsgt7]

Here we have an evaluation of what went on in Bosnia. Here are some excerpts about this book, Unholy Terror.

The long hidden truth is that Bosnia played the same role for al-Qa’ida in the 1990s that Afghanistan did in the 1980s, providing a battleground where mujahidin could learn to wage holy war. Schindler exposes how Osama bin Laden exploited the Bosnian conflict for his own ends and the disturbing level of support the U.S. government gave to the Bosnian mujahidin—just as had been done with the Afghan mujahidin. Repeating the mistakes of Afghanistan contributed to blowback of epic proportions: Khalid Sheikh Muhammad (the mastermind of 9/11) and two of the 9/11 hijacker pilots were veterans of the Bosnian jihad.

• how the Bosnian conflict has been misrepresented by the mainstream media, covering up the large role played by radical Islam and al-Qa’ida;
• how Osama bin Laden used Bosnia as a base for terrorist operations worldwide—including attacks on the United States from the Millennium Plot to 9/11;
• how veterans of the Bosnian jihad have murdered thousands of Americans and conducted terrorist attacks around the world;
• how the Clinton administration, in collaboration with Iran, secretly supplied Bosnia’s mujahidin, including al-Qa’ida, with millions of dollars of weapons and supplies;
• how America’s Bosnian allies have been in covert alliances with radical anti-American regimes in several countries;
• why Bosnia and its secret jihad matter to America and our War on Terrorism today.

I just ordered the book so I cannot tell anyone what I think of the book.

What I have noticed over the years is that their Jihadists are violent for months against their neighbors, if not years. since Islam tells its followers they are superior and no unbeliever may strike them (no matter what they have done ot the unbelievers), they are then to openly wage war while the ones who do not fight are claiming victimhood. Look at Israel and the Palestinians. we are just supposed to believe that the Palestinians lobbing bombs into Israel is ok and it is only bad when Israel has had enough and fights back. Israel warned the Pals to leave if they did not want to fight, they aimed directly where the rockets were coming from and it isn’t the fault of the Israelis that they come from houses where women and children reside, hospitals, schools, and mosques.

Someone on this website just shrugged the bombs off as ‘little firecrackers’. Those bombs are not little firecrackers. I do not remember who wrote that back to me.

 

[Jehoshua]

Yet again ignorance comes forth instead of wisdom and darkness seeks to smother light. Yet in the end the lord of light will triumph over the lord of darkness and reign for all eternity and finally the world will know true and unending peace. For what is darkness but an absense of light. Pax Christianum.

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Seriously you’d think that people would wake up to the lunacy thats going on in the present day, but know they continue to blindly fall into the hands of the Devil and spawn immorality and evil amongst the children of God.

 

[staffsgt7]

We might be facing another war with Israel and the Palestinians. The Palestinians are shown as causing the harassment. Video here.

 

[Jehoshua]

The third Intifada.

 

[staffsgt7]

Here we read that another country are using their children as explosives. Here is a video that talks about it.

Here we have a video showing women and teens being used as explosives.

Jehoshua, Third Intifada? Did you watch the video?

Your notes are very cryptic it is hard to follow what you are trying to say. I might be misinterpreting your notes.

 

[KathleenGee]

I have to check the Bible more…but there is reference to Gaza, Ashkelon, and another…I found the reference through a Jew…and all the references to the behaviors of people who live in that part of the world in the Old Testament that we see even today…no progress, but hating, killing, ongoing fratricide.

It is hard to find peace knowing how much and incessant this constant war continues against the rest of humanity and world peace…you can’t blame it on America.

 

[Hadi]

you can’t blame it on America.

There are more than 2.2 millions Christians living in Syria. Syria has been ruled by the Baath party since 1950. The Baath party also ruled Iraq until 2003. Christians have been living under the Baath rule in a fairly peaceful coexistence with others. If America repeats the same mistake done to Iraq and invade Syria, the violence will be unleashed against Syrian Christians similarly to what is happening in Iraq now to Iraqi Christians. And following the Iraq war, there were plans to invade Syria.

the Arab-Israeli wars put the Jews living in the Arab world in jeopardy and persecution and finally deportation . They were viewed as potential enemies. Another example is , any future war between Iran and other Arab countries will put the Shias living in predominantly Sunni countries in dangerous situation, probably concentration camps. similar (to a lesser degree) when Japan attacked Pearl Harbour.

 

[sedonaman]

There are more than 2.2 millions Christians living in Syria. Syria has been ruled by the Baath party since 1950. The Baath party also ruled Iraq until 2003. Christians have been living under the Baath rule in a fairly peaceful coexistence with others. …

Sorta like honest, hardworking shopkeepers lived in peace with the Mafia that ruled their neighborhood. As long as the shopkeepers payed the Mafiosos their extortion money, they were left in peace. Once the payment stopped, a form of jihad commenced.

 

[staffsgt7]

There are more than 2.2 millions Christians living in Syria. Syria has been ruled by the Baath party since 1950. The Baath party also ruled Iraq until 2003. Christians have been living under the Baath rule in a fairly peaceful coexistence with others. If America repeats the same mistake done to Iraq and invade Syria, the violence will be unleashed against Syrian Christians similarly to what is happening in Iraq now to Iraqi Christians. And following the Iraq war, there were plans to invade Syria.

the Arab-Israeli wars put the Jews living in the Arab world in jeopardy and persecution and finally deportation . They were viewed as potential enemies. Another example is , any future war between Iran and other Arab countries will put the Shias living in predominantly Sunni countries in dangerous situation, probably concentration camps. similar (to a lesser degree) when Japan attacked Pearl Harbour.

What if people did that to Muslims because they have attacked them? I remember Muslims attacking the USA in the 1990s and the big boom on 9/11. What if we did that to you? We catch more Jihadists in our borders all the time. And don’t tell me it is because we are in the Middle East. We are there because the inability of Muslims to clean their own streets in Mecca of oil. Before there was oil there was Jihad and violence against the Christians and others.

What about all the attacks against the Chinese? Shouldn’t by your logic the Muslims be kicked out of China? Or India, especially India. Shouldn’t all Muslims be given the boot out of India? I could go on with this sick logic in Lebanon, Africa and Europe (7/11 types of attacks, riots, etc).