Why are so many parents afraid to parent?

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I don’t think my first thread is going well.

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Please teach me and don’t get mad. I just want to learn more about something that I know very little about.
Mmm … for someone who “just wants to learn” your thread title is a bit … combative. 😉 My personal philosophy of new thread construction is to choose the title so that it sets the tone for the rest of the thread. Of course, you will still have people that positively enjoy taking offense and for whom righteous indignation is their drug of choice (although arguably less destructive than crack or heroin), but if you’ve been reasonable about the way you phrase things, then at least you can proceed with a clear conscience.
Children who are not yet old enough to be caught up in all of this can teach us much about slowing down and enjoying simple things. My little guys are fascinated with the world: leaves falling from trees, flowers, the ocean, rain, etc. They find it all so amazing. And it IS so amazing if we allow ourselves the time to appreciate it. How much beauty in life do we miss because we have “important” adult things to attend to? Children see how incredible God’s creation is, and most of the time we adults don’t even notice because it’s old news to us.
Isn’t it beautiful? I am learning this every day. I spent my childhood primarily in Iowa, and my girls spent theirs in Alaska (up until last summer), and I realize the things I took for granted that they are seeing for the first time. The humidity of a midwestern summer, squirrels and bunny rabbits EVERYWHERE, big piles of leaves in the fall, the fact that it actually gets dark at night in the summer here … but on the other hand, it’s old news for them to see a moose chillin’ in the playground at school, or to hear their friend’s grandmother speak Inupiaq.
 
I’m glad you found this funny, and I hope that your rude comments make you feel like you achieved something today. Great way to touch people’s hearts. Thank you.
I hope you lay off judging your parents…and that other parents here feel like they aren’t being judged, either.
 
Some kids are easier to raise then others. Some are just late bloomers. I found alot of useful information and tips on the following link, “Empowering Parents” and have bought one of their parenting programs called "The Total Transformation Program’. As a parent of a “troubled teen”, I found that arguing was not an option and that it was just fueling the fire and as soon as I removed myself and locked myself in my room the arguing stopped. Now he had no one to argue with. Anyway check out the website, maybe it will help:

empoweringparents.com/How-to-Get-Your-Child-to-Listen-Giving-Effective-Consequences.php?utm_medium=email&utm_source=email02142012CX
So far, he’s not anything like a “troubled teen”. He’s great with his teachers, if anything works harder at his schoolwork than ever, and without any nagging from us, his coaches love him, people who see him at church think he’s just wonderful. He only tries the surly thing on with us, he only tries the vulgar language around us (and his friends, not other adults), and according to both him and his brother, he only feels free to pinch and hit his brother, not anyone else at school. According to his brother, he isn’t more cutting in his remarks than is the norm among the boys in their class. His remarks about people who use drugs and/or alcohol tend to be condescending to the point of utter contempt.

If anything, I suspect he’s taken the positive feedback he gets from the other adults in his life and has concluded that he’s just hunky-dory, thank you very much, and no improving comments from Mom and Dad are wanted or needed. He thinks he has advanced enough to be a law unto himself. He has essentially told us that we are feeble-minded for not being able to see this.

We have assured him that he will look back on these conversations differently in the future.
 
So far, he’s not anything like a “troubled teen”. He’s great with his teachers, if anything works harder at his schoolwork than ever, and without any nagging from us, his coaches love him, people who see him at church think he’s just wonderful. He only tries the surly thing on with us, he only tries the vulgar language around us (and his friends, not other adults), and according to both him and his brother, he only feels free to pinch and hit his brother, not anyone else at school. According to his brother, he isn’t more cutting in his remarks than is the norm among the boys in their class. His remarks about people who use drugs and/or alcohol tend to be condescending to the point of utter contempt.

If anything, I suspect he’s taken the positive feedback he gets from the other adults in his life and has concluded that he’s just hunky-dory, thank you very much, and no improving comments from Mom and Dad are wanted or needed. He thinks he has advanced enough to be a law unto himself. He has essentially told us that we are feeble-minded for not being able to see this.

We have assured him that he will look back on these conversations differently in the future.
If I could hazard a guess, he’s about 14, right?
 
Several answers:
  1. The same discipline that works on one kid can give very different results with another, and I mean two kids with the same parents in the same family. I know a family in which one child could be stung into compliance by a mere disapproving glance while a fellow sibling could be spanked without even slowing down. (Parents who had great success with the first one or two can find this a rude shock.)
  2. Daily life used to require more on-going discipline, because houses were smaller and were not “child-proofed”. Kids had to learn not to touch, they didn’t get a room to themselves to run wild in, and so on.
  3. Read what people wrote about the nature of boys in the 1920s or so. I think some grandpas and great grandpas have been telling some tall ones when it comes to how well-behaved they were when they were kids. I know I have heard grandparents nearly swallow their dentures in laughter when their pwn children lectured the grandchildren about how well-behaved the children were forced to be during their childhoods.
  4. The whole world feels free to criticize your parenting these days. You are too strict. You are too lax. You don’t know what you’re doing. You need to listen to the experts. You’re going to ruin your child. A relative of mind was followed around the store and out into the parking lot by some busybody who apparently thought her treatment of a tantrum (ignoring it and walking off!) was abusive. These incidents are not unusual, even at church. It would be a lot easier to parent if the rest of the world would simply mind their own business, which is what they were expected to do “in the old days”.
Mostly, the answer is to be found in (4)…that is, if parents feel afraid to parent, it is because they get way too much advice, both solicited and unsolicited.
I agree with this.

I’ve seen too many different parenting styles around today as well. Some parents “helicopter”, some are the “BFF” type with their kids, some parents are now single parents and what goes at mom’s house is quite different than at dad’s house, some parents think they need to become stricter to compensate for what the OP sees in other families, etc. etc. Some kids have no idea what discipline even means.

I think as well, its much easier to be in the OP’s shoes in never having been a parent and to have the OP’s particular point of view about parents being afraid to parent. I too thought I was the perfect parent and knew exactly what parents were doing wrong…then I had a child of my own and I realized I was too judgemental in my former point of view.
 
I agree with this.

I’ve seen too many different parenting styles around today as well. Some parents “helicopter”, some are the “BFF” type with their kids, some parents are now single parents and what goes at mom’s house is quite different than at dad’s house, some parents think they need to become stricter to compensate for what the OP sees in other families, etc. etc. Some kids have no idea what discipline even means.

I think as well, its much easier to be in the OP’s shoes in never having been a parent and to have the OP’s particular point of view about parents being afraid to parent. I too thought I was the perfect parent and knew exactly what parents were doing wrong…then I had a child of my own and I realized I was too judgemental in my former point of view.
Amen to this.

My answer to the OP’s question is that many parents are confused due to the myriad of parenting styles that bombard them through various media as well as personal interactions with other parents.

Up until about 50 years ago in the U.S., most people held the same values, and most people used the same basic methods to parent. Oh, yes, there were the more permissive parents (that’s where all of us kids loved to hang out because they didn’t make us play outside, but instead, they would let come into the house and actually keep our shoes ON, and then they let us eat junk food while we watched soap operas!). And there were the strict parents (the ones who had their kids on a schedule and required chores before and after school and made the kids eat their greens). And there were the exremes–the abusers, the abandoners, etc., but thankfully, it didn’t seem that there were too many of these.

For the most part, there were tried and true parenting methods that almost everyone used, whether they were strict or permissive.

But nowadays, we have all kinds of methods of parenting, and even among Christians, there is no agreement. Just look at this thread!

So many parents just kind of sit there in hazy daze, unsure of themselves and unsure or what to do with their children. It’s hard to take action when you have dozens of different coaches yelling for you to do dozens of different things. It paralyzes you.

And often, husbands and wives disagree, and this is deadly when it comes to training and disciplining children. You simply can’t pull a child in two different directions–it results in the child getting torn to pieces.

Lots of people swear that when they have kids, none of this will happen to them. Well, it does. It’s not easy to parent these days.

I agree with those who say that they are afraid that they will be reported and that the DCS will come and take away their children. It happens. I spanked my children back in the 1980s, but I don’t think I would do it nowadays.

I also agree with all those who say there are some children who are simply not easy to discipline.

Finally, allow me to add that when it comes to things like going to Mass with children, there are parents like me who believe that a child under the age of 5 should not be expected to sit quietly for more than a few minutes. Now I know that some of you have success in training toddlers to sit during Mass, and I salute you. I wish you could have had my older daughter when she was a toddler. I’m thankful that we were Protestant back then, and I could take her to the nursery. Even in the nursery, she was a live wire–a loveable one, but still, she was so incredibly active and verbal. I didn’t know any better and I thought all children were like her, and it was only after I had my second child that I realize that my first child was way over the top! (In today’s world, she would have been labelled “hyperactive” or “sensory disordered” or some other term, and probably medicated.)

At any rate, I made it a point to not expect children to do adult things like sitting quietly for an hour. I wouldn’t call that “fear of parenting.” I would call it “sensible parenting,” or “keeping one’s sanity intact.”

BTW, the Church does not require children under the age of seven to attend Mass, so I would have been just fine as a Catholic! I would have done a “gradual” approach to Mass with my daughters. I would have brought them to Mass for just a few minutes when they were very young, and then gradually increased the time until they were able to sit through the entire Mass. I also would have done a lot of home education about Mass, and I would have taught them the songs and responses at home so that they would be able to participate. This means I probably would not have brought them at all until they were able to talk. But again, the Catholic Church doesn’t require that babies and toddlers be brought to Mass. So is that “fearful parenting?” If it’s good enough for the Holy Mother Church, it’s good enough for me!
 
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