why are some rejecting the cup

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thomasf said:
Lately I have not being receiving the blood.
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Yes, you have been receiving the Blood if you have been going to communion. Both species contain BOTH the Body and the Blood. Neither is more important than the other. Neither is devoid of Body or Blood.👍

You are receiving Jesus Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity just fine the way you are doing it. Don’t kick yourself, or think you re being denied, or denying yourself, anything.
 
I’m a college student, and the parish I attend when I’m at school only gives the Host. But when I’m at home, even though the church I attend gives both, I always bypass the Blood. My parents, who are extremely conservative Protestants, believe that drinking any kind of alcohol, even at communion, is sinful. I figure that I already caused enough scandal by becoming Catholic - I don’t need to go home after Mass with the smell of wine on my breath.

Plus, as someone else said much earlier, the last thing I need is for an officer to smell wine at a routine traffic stop on the way home. 🙂

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Well, I wish I could say that declining the cup was a health issue, but it’s rarely that which I think of. I have always taken the bread alone. When I was confirmed I thought about recieving the wine as well, but I was pretty nervous and my sponsor fortunately steered me back to our seats. I think she was nervous too! Anyhow, the main reason I don’t recieve the wine is that I don’t like wine, at all. We always have it at family dinners and everyone always makes me take a sip, but as childish as it is, my face contorts at the taste. I would be completely mortified if after recieving the Blood of our Savior I have an “ewwey” face.😊
 
Fidicina said:
I’m a college student, and the parish I attend when I’m at school only gives the Host. But when I’m at home, even though the church I attend gives both, I always bypass the Blood. My parents, who are extremely conservative Protestants, believe that drinking any kind of alcohol, even at communion, is sinful. I figure that I already caused enough scandal by becoming Catholic - I don’t need to go home after Mass with the smell of wine on my breath.

Plus, as someone else said much earlier, the last thing I need is for an officer to smell wine at a routine traffic stop on the way home. 🙂

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Well, I would ask them: Did Jesus ever sin?
  1. He changed water into wine (really good stuff too I’d bet).
  2. Christ drank wine at the Last supper: Mark 14:25 “Amen, I say to you, I shall not drink AGAIN the fruit of the vine until the day I drink it new in the Kingdom of God.” — So Jesus is implying 2 things by this: 1. He drank the wine in the upper room (which is what your parent’s consider a sin) and He will drink it again in heaven.
3.He gave wine to his apostles in the upper room (why would
Jesus be providing a means for his followers to sin?).

Scripture describes heaven as a banquet (I’ve heard), and what’s at this banquet? Food and drink, and fellowship with our fellow Christians. We will worship God forever, and we also do this through the Eucharist.

People try to say that the wine back then was like watered down
grape juice, but how are we to know?? We have to take scripture as it says it, that wine/alcohol is ok in moderation, but in excess it is sinful. 👍
 
I really do believe that if the only choice were the cup that some of the germophobes still wouldn’t receive.

If mother Teresa had been a germophobe she would have stayed away from lepers.

There are worse things in the world than dying a martyr’s death by germs from the precious blood in the Eucharist.

Hypothetical question non eucharist related: are you willing to die from germs for Christ?
 
Dani_Girl0517 said:
Anyhow, the main reason I don’t recieve the wine is that I don’t like wine, at all. We always have it at family dinners and everyone always makes me take a sip, but as childish as it is, my face contorts at the taste. I would be completely mortified if after recieving the Blood of our Savior I have an “ewwey” face.😊
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Whew!👍 I’m glad that you don’t (for that reason). So many seem to think that they aren’t getting something if they only RECEIVE under one species: not true! You have received both the BODY and the BLOOD, along with the Soul and Divinity, if you have just the tiniest morsel of either species!

I think that if someone has a cold, or something else infectious, or if they don’t care for the taste, it would be so much better if they did not receive, out of respect for what it is, and what it means to us! 😃
 
Christ is present Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity under either species, it is repetitive and unnecessary. I also will not receive communion, under any species, from the laity. I seek out a Priest to receive communion.
 
Christ is fully present in both the bread and wine (as mentioned previously). I believe that Christ would not allow communicants to become ill from receving His Precious Blood. That said, out of respect for those who may be ill or otherwise compromised I do not receive when I am ill to ensure that I do not endanger anyone else’s health.
 
We also need to remember that while almost universal, the Catholic Mass is not entirely universal. I grew up in Rhode Island, the Diocese of Providence and the Archdiocese of Boston. I never saw any man, woman or child other than ordained priests and deacons drink the Blood of Christ until I went to college outside of the Diocese. I was wholly uncomfortable with drinking the Blood for a few years, feeling that it was not my place because of nothing aside from the tradition I had been raised with.

Five years ago, while I was stationed in Pensacola, FL my parish priest instituted the changes of standing before the priest begins the prayer over the gifts (“May the Lord Accept the sacrifice at your hands…”) and for the “Amen” acclaimation prior to the Communion Rite. All subsequent Catholic churches I’ve been a member of or even just attended-in New Jersey and now Oregon-have all done it. But the church where I was raised in RI, and all churches in that area starting doing it this fall-and to this day, only the priest drinks the Blood of Christ, except for one woman, who has a wheat allergy.

I’m not sure of the reasons, but I would imagine that the bishops have a say in this. Don’t assume that because someone seems unsure in your church’s customs that they aren’t Catholic. Take a cross country trip and go to church often, I guarantee you’ll feel out of place more than once when people don’t do what you’re used to. (Some of my personal examples are no kneeling between “Lamb of God” and Communion, kneeling after communion to pray the Hail Mary, crossing the aisles to hold my hand for the Our Father, still using Communion Plates to catch any crumbs-and that’s just at the church I’ve been going to since moving to Oregon)
 
HorseJumperCTS said:
Whether this is right or wrong, I don’t know. I am a teen, and I hate the taste of wine (I think my parents are kind of glad :D)… I would rather not take the Blood, than take it and think “Man, this is gross”.
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Drinking from the “communal cup” of wine for Communion has ALWAYS been an option for the faithful. Many opt for just the Host.
 
Originally Posted by Fidicina
I’m a college student, and the parish I attend when I’m at school only gives the Host. But when I’m at home, even though the church I attend gives both, I always bypass the Blood. My parents, who are extremely conservative Protestants, believe that drinking any kind of alcohol, even at communion, is sinful. I figure that I already caused enough scandal by becoming Catholic - I don’t need to go home after Mass with the smell of wine on my breath.

Plus, as someone else said much earlier, the last thing I need is for an officer to smell wine at a routine traffic stop on the way home.

Your parents would have probably rejected Christ Himself if they lived back then during His lifetime and smelled wine on His breath.😛
 
peary said:
Drinking from the “communal cup” of wine for Communion has ALWAYS been an option for the faithful. Many opt for just the Host.
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“Always” since when? The concession of the Chalice, although considered by the Council of Trent, was taken up by the Second Vatican Council. Only for the past 40 or so years have the laity been permitted to receive from the Chalice regularly (but that is not necessarily what Vatican II had in mind…).
 
Starbuck1 said:
It came to my attention during the Mass tonight that some members are taking the bread but not the wine. They just walk past the person holding the cup of wine and smile at them. Why would they refuse the wine?
Ken
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It could be because people are ill informed, having a hard time adapting to the change ( as the eucharist used to be available under the form of bread only) or are afraid to recieve the Living Healing Risen Lord because of fear of “catching a disease”. Even though the Church has said that recieving either or constitutes recieving the full body soul and divinity of Christ, it still is a shame that you don’t recieve when its offered to you. Remember Christ invited us to recieve both his Body and Blood ( which at the last supper were under the form of Bread AND Wine) so why not recieve both? Pray dear Brother that God changes the hearts of those who are afraid of recieving Him in both species.

God Bless
Podo
 
japhy said:
“Always” since when? The concession of the Chalice, although considered by the Council of Trent, was taken up by the Second Vatican Council. Only for the past 40 or so years have the laity been permitted to receive from the Chalice regularly (but that is not necessarily what Vatican II had in mind…).
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Well then what did Vatican II intend?
 
Podo2005 said:
Well then what did Vatican II intend?
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Please see post 427 in this very thread. You’ll see what Vatican II said about Communion under both kinds, and what the post-conciliar documents said, and what the 2002 GIRM now says (which is a bit of a departure from Vatican II).
 
japhy said:
“Always” since when? The concession of the Chalice, although considered by the Council of Trent, was taken up by the Second Vatican Council. Only for the past 40 or so years have the laity been permitted to receive from the Chalice regularly (but that is not necessarily what Vatican II had in mind…).
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Since when? Since Vatican II. As long as I can remember for the past 40+ years the laity have had the option of receiving from a cup (or chalice). Option = permission. Prior to Vatican II, it was being done in many areas of the world already.
 
Does it really matter whether or not the wine is or is not offered? I thought that the whole point of this thread was and is that the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ is present in both forms. It doesn’t matter if you choose not to receive one or the other.
 
I choose not to take the from the chalice, when it is offered, due to either my cold or flu season, etc.
 
brigid12 said:
I choose not to take the from the chalice, when it is offered, due to either my cold or flu season, etc.
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When one has some infectious disease (a cold, a cold sore, the flu, etc), one shouldn’t receive from the chalice. That is not refusal. :o

I think this discussion is about people that refuse to drink from the come when they otherwise could do so.
 
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