Why are there homosexuals at so young an age?!

[Caesar]

I was talking to a friend from school today. She worked at a girl’s summer camp in July this year. I was asking about her experiences there. She casualy remarked that while she was there two of the campers, girls 9-12 years old, were caught having sex! 12 years old at the most!

Another friend of mine told me that his younger brother (13) was found in his grade school fondling another boy from a younger grade (I think I did see something about this in the local paper a year or so ago).

Look at these ages! This is just plain disgusting! What is wrong here? Why are these children (young children!) having homosexual experiences? Why do they even know about this?

Dear God, this is a sick society we are in

 

[SeekerJen]

I wonder if the children involved, at least the aggressor children, came from abusive homes. Usually when children that young act out, it’s learned behavior. How sad. Of course, middle schools are pretty trashy, and if these kids are 11 or over, there’s no telling what they’ve seen or heard from peers. Again, very sad.

 

[Karin]

I was talking to a friend from school today. She worked at a girl’s summer camp in July this year. I was asking about her experiences there. She casualy remarked that while she was there two of the campers, girls 9-12 years old, were caught having sex! 12 years old at the most!

Another friend of mine told me that his younger brother (13) was found in his grade school fondling another boy from a younger grade (I think I did see something about this in the local paper a year or so ago).

Look at these ages! This is just plain disgusting! What is wrong here? Why are these children (young children!) having homosexual experiences? Why do they even know about this?

Dear God, this is a sick society we are in

Is it any more disgusting than a straight 12y/o or 13y/o having a kid?

 

[jmcrae]

40-50 years ago, most of what we look at in ads and entertainment today would have been banned as the worst kind of pornography.

Why are we so surprised that young kids are hyper-sexual, when they are exposed every day to mountains and mountains of this stuff? Kids have always been naturally curious - in our day, we had no idea what it was we were curious about, though. Today, kids get it shoved in their faces from the time they can walk.

 

[estesbob]

Is it any more disgusting than a straight 12y/o or 13y/o having a kid?

Well yes it is. Heterosexual sex is not disordered on the face of it-homosexual sex is. There are never circumstances where homosexual behavior is proper.

 

[Karin]

Well yes it is. Heterosexual sex is not disordered on the face of it-homosexual sex is. There are never circumstances where homosexual bahavior is proper.

Well Duh…really
There are also never circumstances when unmarried sexual acts are proper… the point is that CHILDREN should not be having sex …where are these childrens parents throughout this all???

 

[BLB_Oregon]

The sexual experimentation was wrong, but it does not make those girls lesbians.

Let us face it: Kids can’t experiment unless they can find some way to escape the watchful eye of adults. Even when we were kids, the child most likely to be with us without supervision would have been a child of our own sex. Kids don’t even have to have reached puberty to have curiosity, and they are reaching puberty earlier and in a sexually-saturated age.

I think it is important to react appropriately to this kind of an incident. It needs to be impressed upon the kids that the boundaries are there for their own good and especially for their own personal dignity, for the sake of respecting everyone involved, and because of the deep appreciation we need to have for what sex is meant to be. It needs to be explained that the joys and graces of sex are real, but not to be found outside of marriage.

The objective is not to make them feel a certain way, but to properly form their consciences so that they won’t harm themselves or others out of ignorance or because they are allowed to believe the lies that fly around this world concerning sex.

Purity is a positive virtue, a fruit of gratitude for our sexual gifts, and not a fruit of guilt or shame about them. Girls who are ashamed of their sexual desires, rather than in control of them, are prime candidates for sexual exploitation later in life. They are also less likely to be able to share themselves fully with their husbands in a sacramental marriage. That end always needs to be our goal.

 

[Trelow]

Look at the parents*. Most *of the time you will find your answer there.

 

[Dale_M]

Why are these children (young children!) having homosexual experiences? Why do they even know about this?

Probably for the same reason that children have heterosexual experiences at that age. I used to volunteer at a homeless shelter and three generation homless families were not uncommon. Occasionally, mom would be 13 years old.

Why does this happen? Experimentation, exploitation, a desire to take on grown up roles.

 

[Magnanimity]

I was talking to a friend from school today. She worked at a girl’s summer camp in July this year. I was asking about her experiences there. She casualy remarked that while she was there two of the campers, girls 9-12 years old, were caught having sex!

I wonder what that would mean exactly. That two, say, young middle school girls were having sex? Having sex? Their ages alone make me think it was more of an experimentation as another poster has said, which, I would agree, does not make them homosexual. And if these 2 girls, at that age, were doing anything approaching full on sexual positioning (and not just experimental petting), it is clear that the problem has been deep and ongoing for some time. Without significant sexual abuse coupled with parental neglect, it is just implausible for two 11 year olds to behave sexually and in a lesbian way as if they were 25 year olds. Something profoundly aweful would have had to have happened, I would think.

 

[KathleenElsie]

Children go through a period of curiosity on their sexuality. Self gratification is an example of this curiosity. Attraction to people that are the same as then is another stage of development. It is how we make friends.Homosexuality was not spoken of to young children. So the phase tended to pass and most went on to male female relationships.

Now they are exposed to same sex relationships and many of them believe they are homosexual. They are told they are by others and thus they get stuck at that stage of development.

So IMHO there are no more “true” homosexuals now then there ever were. Just many more being told they are.

 

[Exalt]

Kids do stuff sometimes. They’re children. Sexual experiences at a young age doesn’t neccessarily mean a kid is going to grow up and be homosexual.

 

[BLB_Oregon]

Kids do stuff sometimes. They’re children. Sexual experiences at a young age doesn’t neccessarily mean a kid is going to grow up and be homosexual.

Nevertheless, sexual experimentation between 9-12 need a different treatment than the same experimentation that happens in a young child. In every case, the end effect on the child’s concept of their own sexuality needs to be the main concern. We need to make sure they identify with moral behavior, and in a positive way.

Kids need to see themselves as fundamentally good people who are capable using their self-control to show their love and respect for others. Inappropriate sexual behavior needs to be the problem, something that is not in keeping with their true identity. The last thing we want is a kid to be carrying around the ideas, “My sexuality is bad” or “When I am tempted to do bad things, that makes me a bad person.”

 

[Think2Deep]

Children go through a period of curiosity on their sexuality. Self gratification is an example of this curiosity. Attraction to people that are the same as then is another stage of development. It is how we make friends.Homosexuality was not spoken of to young children. So the phase tended to pass and most went on to male female relationships.

Now they are exposed to same sex relationships and many of them believe they are homosexual. They are told they are by others and thus they get stuck at that stage of development.

So IMHO there are no more “true” homosexuals now then there ever were. Just many more being told they are.

AMEN!!!

 

[JimG]

Because kids are being sexualized from childhood, and homosexuality is now trendy.

 

[puzzleannie]

while in grad school I had the unlovely assignment in my work-study job at an archival organization, the task of assisting the catalogers of several collections of records of various gay-lesbian advocacy and political action groups, comprising the “Gay Lesbian ARchives” established by this institution. In conjunction with the public ceremonies marking this PC event, oral history interviews were conducted with hundreds of self-identified homosexuals and transexuals ranging in age from 18 to 80.

Social historians analyzed these interviews --and thousounds more from similar sources–to generate some statistics (no doubt to be used in political debates on issues of interest to this group). The most significant statistic that emerged, and was widely reported at the time this research was made public (about 15 yrs ago) was that virtually ALL, over 90% of gays and lesbians interviewed stated that their first homosexual contact occurred when they were children (below the age of puberty) and was initiated by an older teen or an adult. The other astounding fact was that over 80 percent of those early contacts were forced, unwanted, uninvited seductions or actual rapes. The other astounding fact was that most of these initial contacts were initiated by family members.

This is in line with statistics on child abuse in general, and the psychological manipulation inherent in these attacks, carried on in some cases over many years, cannot be ignored in any serious discussion of the roots and causes of homosexuality.

this research is widely available on gay-lesbian sites and I have no intention on providing any links.

 

[BLB_Oregon]

The most significant statistic that emerged, and was widely reported at the time this research was made public (about 15 yrs ago) was that virtually ALL, over 90% of gays and lesbians interviewed stated that their first homosexual contact occurred when they were children (below the age of puberty) and was initiated by an older teen or an adult. The other astounding fact was that over 80 percent of those early contacts were forced, unwanted, uninvited seductions or actual rapes. The other astounding fact was that most of these initial contacts were initiated by family members.

What is really scary is that something like 25% of ALL women are molested or sexually abused when they are young. The rate for young boys is not much better. Homosexuality is hardly the only hazard to their developing sexuality that they are exposed to by these assaults.

It is very important that these kids not be made to feel as if they were perpetrators…even if it is something they do willingly with another child. A child also needs to know that, regardless of what mistakes they’ve made, they will be believed if they tell that they are victims later on down the line.

Kids need to know that the rules of sexual morality exist because human beings are so precious and because sex is precious, and not because either is disgusting or bad. It is very important that their sexual failures can be admitted to and dealt with at the time.

 

[KathleenElsie]

What is really scary is that something like 25% of ALL women are molested or sexually abused when they are young. The rate for young boys is not much better. Homosexuality is hardly the only hazard to their developing sexuality that they are exposed to by these assaults.

It is very important that these kids not be made to feel as if they were perpetrators…even if it is something they do willingly with another child. A child also needs to know that, regardless of what mistakes they’ve made, they will be believed if they tell that they are victims later on down the line.

Kids need to know that the rules of sexual morality exist because human beings are so precious and because sex is precious, and not because either is disgusting or bad. It is very important that their sexual failures can be admitted to and dealt with at the time.

But, the question remains as to whom should do the teaching. IMHO it should be the parents not the teachers in schools. Let the teachers teach the biological facts not the how toooos or what toooos. Let the parents teach their children the morals and religious teachings. If you can agree that true Liberalism acts like a religion (or as I think is a religion) then each family can teach their own moral religious belief to their own children.

 

[BLB_Oregon]

But, the question remains as to whom should do the teaching. IMHO it should be the parents not the teachers in schools. Let the teachers teach the biological facts not the how toooos or what toooos. Let the parents teach their children the morals and religious teachings. If you can agree that true Liberalism acts like a religion (or as I think is a religion) then each family can teach their own moral religious belief to their own children.

Oh, heavens, I wasn’t even getting into sexual education in schools. I was talking about how to handle it if one were to discover two girls not far from being young women in some sexually compromising position together. If there were ever long term effects in absolutely hating the sin but unequivocally loving the sinner, this is it. The girls have to come away vowing to never do that again precisely because both they and the gift of their sexuality are so precious in the eyes of God.

Personally, I think public school sex education sells kids short. It does not give them credit for being able to exercise self-control, if they elect to do it, and does not tell them what sorts of measures one has to observe when self-control is the goal.

And yes…sexual education is far better coming from your parents. I have heard horror stories of young people who got nothing beyond, “Be good, and you’ll have nothing to worry about.” That’s like driver’s ed that says, “Read the signs, do what they say, and stay between the lines.” When you talk about kids who are innocent as to how powerful the urges of sexual desire can be, it is a tragedy waiting to happen.

 

[Island_Oak]

The sexual experimentation was wrong, but it does not make those girls lesbians.

Let us face it: Kids can’t experiment unless they can find some way to escape the watchful eye of adults. Even when we were kids, the child most likely to be with us without supervision would have been a child of our own sex. Kids don’t even have to have reached puberty to have curiosity, and they are reaching puberty earlier and in a sexually-saturated age.

I think it is important to react appropriately to this kind of an incident. It needs to be impressed upon the kids that the boundaries are there for their own good and especially for their own personal dignity, for the sake of respecting everyone involved, and because of the deep appreciation we need to have for what sex is meant to be. It needs to be explained that the joys and graces of sex are real, but not to be found outside of marriage.

The objective is not to make them feel a certain way, but to properly form their consciences so that they won’t harm themselves or others out of ignorance or because they are allowed to believe the lies that fly around this world concerning sex.

Purity is a positive virtue, a fruit of gratitude for our sexual gifts, and not a fruit of guilt or shame about them. Girls who are ashamed of their sexual desires, rather than in control of them, are prime candidates for sexual exploitation later in life. They are also less likely to be able to share themselves fully with their husbands in a sacramental marriage. That end always needs to be our goal.

Great post. Not many of us escaped childhood without “playing doctor” at some point. Curiosity and experimentation are not abnormal nor perverted among same age children. Kids do not arrived “pre-programmed” to be moral. Quite to the contrary–they need to be taught to control and manage their instincts. I agree that in most cases reasoned, moral instruction is the answer–namely that impulsivley indulging natural sexual urges is not acceptable–no more than indulging “natural” tendencies to grab, hoard, be first, not share or take turns, etc. It’s all part of socializing those little wild animals we call our children.