Why are there so many homosexuals?

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I would argue that most people don’t murder other people because they wouldn’t want to be murdered or live in a society where murder is acceptable.
 
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There are many largely nonreligious societies with low murder rates.
 
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stavros388 said:
I think you’d better get a copy of this book from the library:

Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity
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There are plenty of homosexuality-supporting writings around nowadays. No need to go to the library to get another one, especially one that purports to expound something it calls “queer science”.
 
You can easily look up the stats if you’re not afraid of them challenging your narrative.
 
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Polak:
But what say out about a child who is physically and mentally mature enough to consider it a relationship?
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What age would that be? We don’t judge maturity purely on sexual maturity. We include mentally as well. We know the brain doesn’t finish maturing until about age 17-21. Some even later. For any relationship to be considered a mature one…even a friendship…all qualifications need to be met. Many girls are physically mature at 12 but we certainly don’t consider them mentally mature.
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Very true, the brain is not fully matured (something about the prefrontal cortex) until the young person is around age 25. I’m sorry, this may step on some toes, and I fully realize that the Church permits marriage much younger, but I really don’t think anyone should get married until they are at least 21, or better yet, 25 or afterwards. Especially with the demands of today’s world, there’s just not enough maturity there.

I realize there are exceptions, and I realize this is older than has been historically and traditionally considered the optimum age range for marriage. And as someone who is traditionalist on general principles (not just religion), I don’t blithely “blow off” accumulated wisdom and knowledge from time immemorial to the present day. But I humbly submit that this is one area — maturity measured by brain development — that we simply didn’t know about until fairly recent times.

I’d also rethink the whole matter of older military officers and politicians sending young people into war at an age where they think they are immortal and often do not really comprehend what “dead” means. But then again, I’m pretty fond of Paul VI’s plea to the United Nations, “no more war, war never again”.
 
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until the young person is around age 25.
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That seems to be current. It runs against God’s reproductive design. I submit in the past maturity and responsibility were present at a much younger age.
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Yes, the reproductive design is there, but for reasons we don’t fully understand, brain development comes later. Perhaps nature intends that we reproduce before we’re fully mature enough to understand fully what we’re doing and what we’re getting ourselves in for. Perhaps it’s our task to be self-aware enough to know “I could do this, but I’m not mature enough yet”.

Mine is an extreme example, but I was 46 when my only son was born. I am able to bring a lifetime of learning and life experience to our present homeschooling adventure, and my son’s life is richer because of it. I retired a few years before people normally do, though with COVID-19 making homeschooling extremely desirable, coupled with duties to my elderly parents, if I had not retired four years ago, I would be retiring now. I am able to be a full-time father and a full-time teacher.

People, please do not wait until you are 46 to have children. Again, it’s an extreme example, a long story, but my case is “too far in the other direction”. Thankfully I’ve made up my mind to live until I’m 100 🙂 1️⃣ 0️⃣ 0️⃣
 
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Just as it is natural for a heterosexual to seek a heterosexual relationship, it is natural for a homosexual to seek a homosexual relationship.
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It is to be anticipated that persons are drawn in the direction of their inclinations. This is not a deep observation nor an argument that something is good or acceptable or anything else.
 
Pattylt said:
While both are sexual acts or lead to them, pedophillia is an actual mental illness while homosexuality isn’t. It used to be thought as such but numerous studies showed that most homosexuals displayed no other symptoms of mental illness other than being homosexual.
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Bear in mind that “mental illness” is a matter of definition. We don’t know whether the cause or underpinnings of homosexuality is psychological.
 
Ah. Do you mean the bodily capability to reproduce is a sign that marriage from this point is permissible? Or stronger than that - desirable upon or soon after puberty? I’m trying to understand why you say deferring marriage into the 20s runs counter to god’s reproductive design. @buffalo?
 
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