Why are there some homosexual clubs in some catholic universities

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Why are there some homosexual clubs in some catholic universities? Why don’t they disband those clubs?
 
Maybe they’re like Courage, where they help each other struggle with their disorder, and not clubs that promote homosexual acts or lifestyles.
 
I’m a bit confused.

Which one of these goals do you have a problem with?
The goals of the week are to:
  • Provide the Loyola community with an understanding of the discrimination underrepresented by the GLBTQ community.
  • Educate the Loyola community on GLBTQ issues.
  • Provide a safe and supporting environment for people of all groups to discuss and interact with each other.
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Or perhaps you take issue with:
The Transgender Day of Remembrance was set aside to memorialize those who were killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice.
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I’m afraid I don’t see the problem with anything I saw posted on any of those links vis-a-vis a Catholic University.
 
Awareness is one thing, but there is nothing in their clubs that suggest that they are about teaching the Catholic morality on homosexualityor providing a spiritual director who will guide them morally, or having a chapter of Courage or EnCourage on their campus either. As a Catholic University, you would expect that to be part of the focus as well, not just the secular viewpoint. Agreeably respect as a human being, being protected in a safe environment is critical for all humans…not just specifically those who wish to live a lifestyle with same sex attractions.

That’s my concern.
 
BillP said:
I’m a bit confused.

Which one of these goals do you have a problem with?

Or perhaps you take issue with:

I’m afraid I don’t see the problem with anything I saw posted on any of those links vis-a-vis a Catholic University.
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www18.georgetown.edu/explore/organizations/pride/?Action=ViewPage&ID=15343

Check out these links from GU. Not one designed to assist people with Same Sex Attraction live a chaste lifestyle. They also provide assistance to help the students deal with coming OUT.

GU Pride? They are not proud because they are overcoming a disordered attraction. They host events like the Pink Prom where same sex couples are allowed .
 
if being gay or lesbian is a moral issue or quite a bit more complicated. Are they born that way?

Never should a gay be bashed under any circumstances.

If its a moral issue, there should never be any type of club or school sponsored organization. Everything I just read, legitimizes or in some way, makes “normal” there lifestyle. So, what’s our problem with there life style. I don’t think that the Church has a problem with gays or lesbians being in love as long as its not romantic. The church has a problem with gays and lesbians sodomizing each other. Take those links and read. “Pride,” The Gay - Straight Alliance. What a tragic comedy.

What if it is not a choice? What if they are born that way? Like downs syndrome. A disease. How heavy of a cross is that? I can see no difference in the Catholic schools position. The gay or lesbian must fight there battle like any other person. Not in some school sponsored club where the word sin or degeneracy is never mentioned, but in a spiritual directors office. In any of those links I did not see the word, recovery.

What a mess the Church is in to allow such a thing in its Universities. I find the Catholic Universities position more disgusting than the gays life style. We should stand for the strongest standards of purity and good solid mental health. A sign of our times, I’m afraid.
 
zhangxupage said:
Why are there some homosexual clubs in some catholic universities? Why don’t they disband those clubs?
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First and foremost, homosexuals are people too. They deserve and education same as the next guy. Disbanding a club won’t change them.
Kathy
 
Katie1723 said:
First and foremost, homosexuals are people too. They deserve and education same as the next guy. Disbanding a club won’t change them.
Kathy
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Whats a gay club have to do with there education? Thats full of holes.
 
If they receive government funding at all (including having students who receive government-based financial aide), they cannot be shown to unfairly discriminate (i.e. if a college allows clubs and has a set manner of clubs being setup, then you cannot deny homosexuals the ability to setup such clubs simply because it is a homosexual group setting it up).
 
Are these kids being taught that sodomy is a MORTAL SIN and if they die with MORTAL SIN on their soul they will go to Hell? I’ll betcha they ain’t!

Simply by annoucing their homosexuality, these clubs are promoting cause for scandal. Why not have a club for students that enjoy pornography… or cocaine… or casual sex???

Catholic parents would be better off sending their kids to a public university. Administrators who allow this on campus should be fired then excommunicated from the Church.

If the Church has changed her teachings on any of this, would someone please correct me?
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zhangxupage said:
Why are there some homosexual clubs in some catholic universities? Why don’t they disband those clubs?
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The bigger question is why do some universities call themselves Catholic when they do not uphold the teachings of the faith?
 
God is open to everyone. That means if we are going to call ourselves Christians, we must open our arms to human beings (warts and all) too.

Any group of college students is going to have some men who, try as they might, do not find they fit the macho man’s man role. So our answer is what, to ban them throw them to the wolves?

There are wolves prowling for human souls in this world. People who throw other human beings to the wolves serve the wolves. Wolf feeders in sheep’s clothing, all the better for the wolves.
 
mm3861 said:
BillP: You are confused alright! 😃 Take a look at this from the folks at Georgetown University. Hey Catholic parents: Here’s your hard earned tuition dollars at work!
studentorgs.georgetown.edu/pride/?Action=ViewPhoto&gallery=175&ID=23321

So tell me BillP, Is this your idea of what catholic education should look like?
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Its like a beach in Thailand. I had no idea how deep this sickness has infested us. What a shocking mess. Loyola University is a complete disgrace. I am absolutely disgusted. Not in those gays kissing, which I really am, but in the church, deserving a lower case c.

Time for a shake up or a wake up. I don’t know what to make of it.
 
Oakleaf said:
God is open to everyone. That means if we are going to call ourselves Christians, we must open our arms to human beings (warts and all) too.

Any group of college students is going to have some men who, try as they might, do not find they fit the macho man’s man role. So our answer is what, to ban them throw them to the wolves?

There are wolves prowling for human souls in this world. People who throw other human beings to the wolves serve the wolves. Wolf feeders in sheep’s clothing, all the better for the wolves.
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Not fitting into a macho mans role is a far cry from gay boys meeting at a Catholic College and legitimizing sexual misconduct. That just doesn’t fly. To ask the University to turn from its wickedness, is a call to repentance. No one is being thrown to the wolves. I hope no one here would hate the man or woman, but rather the sinfulness of there gay lifestyle and condemn the Catholic institution that would foster it.

Which one of those boys is headed for the seminary? How much internal corruption can the Church endure?
 
YipYupYep said:
Not fitting into a macho mans role is a far cry from gay boys meeting at a Catholic College and legitimizing sexual misconduct. That just doesn’t fly. To ask the University to turn from its wickedness, is a call to repentance. No one is being thrown to the wolves. I hope no one here would hate the man or woman, but rather the sinfulness of there gay lifestyle and condemn the Catholic institution that would foster it.

Which one of those boys is headed for the seminary? How much internal corruption can the Church endure?
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We live in an age of information and access. These young students have already turned towards the gay lifestyle. The responsible thing to do would be to have the courage to reach out to these people.

How many men of the cloth have struggled with homo orientation? By that I mean not just same sex attraction, but many other non-sexual things that seem to go along with it. Perhaps not a few. The only weapon that can slay sin is truth. Truth takes courage, but has great moral and even spiritual power.
 
BillP said:
I’m a bit confused.

Which one of these goals do you have a problem with?

Or perhaps you take issue with:

I’m afraid I don’t see the problem with anything I saw posted on any of those links vis-a-vis a Catholic University.
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None, whatsoever. To not do so only increases fear of a stereotype and leads to more discrimination and intolerance. I welcome these clubs on all college campuses public and private.
 
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