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Galnextdoor
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beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/Catholic/2005/03/John-Paul-Iis-Mixed-Legacy.aspx?p=1
He was called to the Vatican and buried in obscurity, because of his blatant disobedience to the Catholic Church.
He surfaced around the time of John Paul II’s death. Here is what he had to say about John Paul II:beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/Catholic/2005/03/John-Paul-Iis-Mixed-Legacy.aspx?p=1
After Cardinal Ratzinger became pope, Greeley was again buried in obscurity. I would not consider anything he has written to be worth the paper it is printed on.
Father Andrew Greeley is not in good standing with the Catholic Church. Here is one article about some of his shenanigans.renewamerica.us/columns/kralis/040820
He was called to the Vatican and buried in obscurity, because of his blatant disobedience to the Catholic Church.
He surfaced around the time of John Paul II’s death. Here is what he had to say about John Paul II:beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/Catholic/2005/03/John-Paul-Iis-Mixed-Legacy.aspx?p=1
After Cardinal Ratzinger became pope, Greeley was again buried in obscurity. I would not consider anything he has written to be worth the paper it is printed on.
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jazzbass981
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Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them. But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, **filthy language out of your mouth. (Colossians 3:5-8) **
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bobzills
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Thanks for these links, and of course, I agree with you with reference to the novels written by Father Greeley. I don’t think he has ever been suspended though? Anyway, one of the links you provided said: “Author of numerous nigh on pornographic novels, Father Greeley is under the authority of Cardinal Francis George, Archbishop of Chicago. It is not known if Cardinal George has imposed any disciplines upon the aging hippy Father Greeley whose behavior is not consistent with the ordained priesthood.”
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bobzills
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Perhaps Father Greeley has never read this part of the Holy Scriptures.
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jazzbass981
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It’s too bad that many of our priests do their own interpretations of the catechism and canon law! It’s the same when I engage in conversation with cafeteria catholics about catholic teaching/doctrine. Instead of arguing, I just show them canon law and/or the catechism passage, and I say, “Either you are catholic, or you are not. You may not like what it says, or even agree with it, but as a catholic, you have to live & abide by what it teaches. You can’t pick and choose your catholicism.”
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GOPCatholic93
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The Bible directly addresses cursing in the Book of Sirach. Since it is referred to as “coarse”, I would assume that the book is not talking about blasphemous talk or anything like that.:
“Let not your mouth form the habit of swearing, or becoming too familiar with the Holy Name.Just as a slave that is constantly under scrutiny will not be without welts, So one who swears continually by the Holy Name will not remain free from sin.A man who often swears heaps up obligations; the scourge will never be far from his house. If he swears in error, he incurs guilt; if he neglects his obligation, his sin is doubly great. If he swears without reason he cannot be found just, and all his house will suffer affliction.There are words which merit death; may they never be heard among Jacob’s heirs. For all such words are foreign to the devout, who do not wallow in sin. Let not your mouth become used to coarse talk, for in it lies sinful matter.” – Sirach 23:9-13 (Note: Sirach is not included in all Bible versions, but it is in the New American Bible, and the USCCB accepts it.)
“Let not your mouth form the habit of swearing, or becoming too familiar with the Holy Name.Just as a slave that is constantly under scrutiny will not be without welts, So one who swears continually by the Holy Name will not remain free from sin.A man who often swears heaps up obligations; the scourge will never be far from his house. If he swears in error, he incurs guilt; if he neglects his obligation, his sin is doubly great. If he swears without reason he cannot be found just, and all his house will suffer affliction.There are words which merit death; may they never be heard among Jacob’s heirs. For all such words are foreign to the devout, who do not wallow in sin. Let not your mouth become used to coarse talk, for in it lies sinful matter.” – Sirach 23:9-13 (Note: Sirach is not included in all Bible versions, but it is in the New American Bible, and the USCCB accepts it.)
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Daniel_Francis
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May I remind all of you that our bodies are the Temple of The Holy Spirit and that Jesus lives within us. NOW as for the F*** word, I wonder how many of you know the origin of this word. It goes back to the days when women wore chastity belts. The King of the land would have to grant permission to have the belts removed to allow intercourse. He would do so by allowing F ornication U nder C onsent of the K ing. The King would stamp the permit with letters granting permission. The WORD tells us to “put on the mind of Christ”. and as we strive to “Live Jesus” (St. Francis de Sales) we should avoid using foul language . 
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jazzbass981
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I know of a different tale if the “F” words’ origin. I was told that when the English Bobbies arrested a prostitue, they were charged “For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge”.
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mariciaspirit
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The world is made up of millions of people from different countries and different cultures. In some homes these words are a social norm. When you study the Word you will come to realize that some things should not be said. “Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but such as is good for edifying as the need may be, that it may give grace to them that hear.” Eph 4:29 Once while listening to a pre-recorded testimony on our local radio station, the gentleman giving the speech related that he went to church for the first time and he heard a lot of curse words. They kept saying Jesus. He was born to an atheist family and the only time he ever heard the name Jesus was when his parents were swearing. This was amazing to me but something common for others. Are these words good for edifying and do they give grace? I think not.:bowdown:
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mariciaspirit
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The world is made up of millions of people from different countries and different cultures. In some homes these words are a social norm. When you study the Word you will come to realize that some things should not be said. “Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but such as is good for edifying as the need may be, that it may give grace to them that hear.” Eph 4:29 Once while listening to a pre-recorded testimony on our local radio station, the gentleman giving the speech related that he went to church for the first time and he heard a lot of curse words. They kept saying Jesus. He was born to an atheist family and the only time he ever heard the name Jesus was when his parents were swearing. This was amazing to me but something common for others. Are these words good for edifying and do they give grace? I think not.:bowdown:
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joedaddy27
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Now that we’ve touched on at least one “S” word, how about another? Scandal!
Part of our duty as Catholics is to be a good example to all, and foul/vulgar/profane language doesn’t help us to be Christ to others.
And, yes, on occasion one of “those” words slips from my mouth…but I’m working on it (I used to be much worse). Let us all strive for purity in all we think, say, and do. Sometimes our example is the only gospel someone may experience.
Part of our duty as Catholics is to be a good example to all, and foul/vulgar/profane language doesn’t help us to be Christ to others.
And, yes, on occasion one of “those” words slips from my mouth…but I’m working on it (I used to be much worse). Let us all strive for purity in all we think, say, and do. Sometimes our example is the only gospel someone may experience.
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I think the question is a good one. The first reply failed to acknowledge that many young people today hear these words in conversation and are curious when told they are wrong. The question demonstrates the need for education on this subject. There are many good replies. I’m just going to add that each of those words can hold a particular vulgar meaning to one individual or another. I would recommend not using the words due to the fact that you can personally offend one person and not another, so it is putting yourself in the position of not knowing whether you will alienate or hurt someone or whether you will be accepted by someone.
The words you mentioned mean to me:
F-word - A man forcing sex on a woman selfishly and maybe violently. I realize this is not the literal meaning, but the forcefulness of the sound of the letters, especially when said in anger, and the vulgar meaning of the word combine to make me think this and I have felt violated as a woman hearing this word. Sometimes I have felt more than that, scared, when an angry man says the word to me or around me. I realize some people actually use this word ot scare people or to let them know they mean business and this is one of the reasons it is wrong to use it.
S-Word - It’s a visual thing for me. I can picture a pile of S when I hear it. Makes me feel sick.
A-Word - Too personal. As someone else said, it is something we don’t show in person. I don’t mind butt as much, though. A - word seems to signify nakedness.
The words are too personal, yet many people are using them as if they are not.
The words you mentioned mean to me:
F-word - A man forcing sex on a woman selfishly and maybe violently. I realize this is not the literal meaning, but the forcefulness of the sound of the letters, especially when said in anger, and the vulgar meaning of the word combine to make me think this and I have felt violated as a woman hearing this word. Sometimes I have felt more than that, scared, when an angry man says the word to me or around me. I realize some people actually use this word ot scare people or to let them know they mean business and this is one of the reasons it is wrong to use it.
S-Word - It’s a visual thing for me. I can picture a pile of S when I hear it. Makes me feel sick.
A-Word - Too personal. As someone else said, it is something we don’t show in person. I don’t mind butt as much, though. A - word seems to signify nakedness.
The words are too personal, yet many people are using them as if they are not.
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bobzills
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I think it is pretty obvious that Scripture condemns the cuss words that we see in the popular novels of the Catholic priest Father Andrew Greeley.
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scameter
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Thanks. That answered it infallibly and completely, for me and everyone else here. Thanks for every other reply I got in this topic too; I really appreciate the interest and love you people are offering in trying to inform me. God bless.
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PittSteve
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You ought to be ashamed of yourself for posting a link such as this in a Catholic forum.
I was astounded that the article made absolutely disgusting allegations against the Church YET OFFERED ABSOLUTELY NO CITATIONS OR BIBLIOGRAPHY!
If I had you in front of me right now, I’d use some of the words the OP was inquiring about.
I never cease to be amazed at the fabulously stupid American way of insulting Catholicism with folklore and fairy tales.
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JJHIII
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This is a ridiculous reply and, to be quite honest, I was suprised that you even said that. He was just qondering why the words are “bad.”
The Bible mentions only one type of “cuss” word. That is taking the Lord’s name in vain. The words listed are improper English but only sinful if used to insult. The word “pants” used to be considered a cuss word in England. Obviously it isnt now
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Fone_Bone_2001
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Isn’t Esau described as a wild a** of a man? Or is that Ishmael?
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WackBob
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The question lies in what axactly is immoral, would “Sh*t” be considered vulgar if you said it around someone who says it alot and isn’t even offended?
Rather, having vulgar conversations about bad stuff…sexaul ****, immoral brutality/mutilation as poking fun at it is much, MUCH more vulgar.
Rather, having vulgar conversations about bad stuff…sexaul ****, immoral brutality/mutilation as poking fun at it is much, MUCH more vulgar.
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CAROLOFTHEBELLS
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I don’t know if I’m the only one, but I would interpret that as meaning donkey or mule.
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